Aww poor Nigel

[cosmic]

3 hours ago, philmycock said:

I wouldn't have thought he'd get any boos, he'll actually get a very good reception

I really hope he doesn't. Just think this will leave a bitter taste in some people's mouths. Fans are fickle. 

[Mafiabob]

Meh

[I am Ram]

Nigel did a good job, but it was time for him to go when he did. I think the season he got sacked we played Blackburn at home early on, we was winning 1-0 and cruising, around the 58th minute he decided to shut up shop, taking off strikers for midfielders and defenders.We lost momentum, they equalized, everybody at the ground wanted us to go for the 2nd killer goal which looked ominous.It was his tactics that were his downfall eventually, (in my mind) for leaving the club. More than four years at a Championship club, is a good shift. Don't have regrets Nigel, i wouldn't mind being a pound behind ya He will get a good reception from me.

[rynny]

1 minute ago, I am Ram said:

Nigel did a good job, but it was time for him to go when he did. I think the season he got sacked we played Blackburn at home early on, we was winning 1-0 and cruising, around the 58th minute he decided to shut up shop, taking off strikers for midfielders and defenders.We lost momentum, they equalized, everybody at the ground wanted us to go for the 2nd killer goal which looked ominous.It was his tactics that were his downfall eventually, (in my mind) for leaving the club. More than four years at a Championship club, is a good shift. Don't have regrets Nigel, i wouldn't mind being a pound behind ya He will get a good reception from me.

First game of the season that was. He did that so many times. Didn't he moan about Cywka scoring because he should have been thinking about his defensive duties more?

[Ramshankered]

My two cents

1) It was pretty classless of us to sack him right after we lost narrowly to Forest. Timing-wise I mean. So to the folk saying his comments lack class...beggar's belief! 

2) I was made redundant 4 years a go. I'm still a bit pissed off about it to be honest - despite the fact I've gone on to better things. No one likes to be tarnished by failure when they've worked exceptionally hard, so I can completely understanding him still harbouring negative feelings towards some of the people at DCFC.

 

[Mafiabob]

2 minutes ago, Ramshankered said:

My two cents

1) It was pretty classless of us to sack him right after we lost narrowly to Forest. Timing-wise I mean. So to the folk saying his comments lack class...beggar's belief! 

2) I was made redundant 4 years a go. I'm still a bit pissed off about it to be honest - despite the fact I've gone on to better things. No one likes to be tarnished by failure when they've worked exceptionally hard, so I can completely understanding him still harbouring negative feelings towards some of the people at DCFC.

 

1st point...... The timing was absolutely perfect in my eyes. Couldn't give a to$$ what forest fans thought that their team committed to demise of our manager. 

2nd point...... I got sacked from a Japanese Car Manufacturer because I acted in a "aggressive manner" to someone who knew about the problems I was having mentally, yet still took the mickey...... I felt harshly treated, but I moved on and can honestly say I'm relieved I went. He's had another job with have to say a stack load of cash and backing to get them up. He failed. He's got a perfect fit again now. I don't hold grudges, those that do..... tend to revel in history and tend to get left behind..... Talk about what's ahead. He should really be ecstatic where he's at. Instead he comes across as wanting to score cheap points against a former employer who gave him plenty of time to build an exciting squad. 

Stubnorness. 

[RadioactiveWaste]

20 minutes ago, rynny said:

First game of the season that was. He did that so many times. Didn't he moan about Cywka scoring because he should have been thinking about his defensive duties more?

The Cywka thing was (I think) an away match we were drawing and right at the end we're under a lot of pressure and the ball breaks to him, he starts to scamper up the pitch hoping we'll go on a break. He gets tackled and the other team score from the next phase. It was (in my opinion) grossly unfair on him. Nigel basically put the whole blame for the loss on him. Wasn't his best moment. 

He did also knee Billy Davies, however understandable, not a dignified way to behave.

[I am Ram]

24 minutes ago, rynny said:

First game of the season that was. He did that so many times. Didn't he moan about Cywka scoring because he should have been thinking about his defensive duties more?

Yes i think you are right on both counts, 1st game and Cywka.

[eddie]

59 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

The Cywka thing was (I think) an away match we were drawing and right at the end we're under a lot of pressure and the ball breaks to him, he starts to scamper up the pitch hoping we'll go on a break. He gets tackled and the other team score from the next phase. It was (in my opinion) grossly unfair on him. Nigel basically put the whole blame for the loss on him. Wasn't his best moment. 

He did also knee Billy Davies, however understandable, not a dignified way to behave.

A pity he didn't stamp on him.

[Anon]

1 hour ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

The Cywka thing was (I think) an away match we were drawing and right at the end we're under a lot of pressure and the ball breaks to him, he starts to scamper up the pitch hoping we'll go on a break. He gets tackled and the other team score from the next phase. It was (in my opinion) grossly unfair on him. Nigel basically put the whole blame for the loss on him. Wasn't his best moment. 

He did also knee Billy Davies, however understandable, not a dignified way to behave.

Agree about Cywka. You're away with the fairies if you think there's any truth in the pathetically transparent deflection attempt of kneegate from Davies and the desperately bitter Forest fans.

[niram]

andorra work their socks off in international matches, suppose we should give em a world cup trophy just for that factor. bore off nige

[rynny]

2 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

The Cywka thing was (I think) an away match we were drawing and right at the end we're under a lot of pressure and the ball breaks to him, he starts to scamper up the pitch hoping we'll go on a break. He gets tackled and the other team score from the next phase. It was (in my opinion) grossly unfair on him. Nigel basically put the whole blame for the loss on him. Wasn't his best moment. 

He did also knee Billy Davies, however understandable, not a dignified way to behave.

Was Reading away finished 2-2, the match where he said Cywka go back to wherever he came from. Think it went along the lines of; That was some goal by Cywka, well he shouldnt have been there really to score the goal, we gave him one job in the game and that was to watch Ian Harte and I'd he had done that they wouldn't have got the last minute equaliser and if he isnt going to learn then he can go back to Wigan or wherever it was that he came from.

Obviously I am paraphrasing bit sure it was something along those lines. I remember thinking at the time that if he hadn't scored then we wouldn't have had a lead to defend.

[Van der MoodHoover]

5 hours ago, MB (Wolfie) said:

What's wrong with barring him from property? Why would we let a rival manager (as he would end up) have access to our facilities? A bit naive to think it's mean of the club. 

I've been escorted off the premises when I've left an employer - even on good terms. It's normal. 

Escorted off premises when you leave is common in London and I too have experienced the walk with large east European security guards.

Such measures are quite properly aimed at protecting company assets. So of course allowing future unfettered access for an ex-employee is a complete no-no. The difference with dcfc is that it's property includes the ipro which is open to the paying public. The parallel is my old asset management house in the city which removed me but had no problem allowing me back in for meetings  (in their semi public areas) with other parties. 

The implication of the comment was that the exclusion clause was on the harsh side.

Anyhow it's pure conjecture. My point was solely that if nigel had been left feeling hard done to then not surprising his comments are not glowing. 

[PrivateDerby]

One thing I've noticed is how feminine men have become over the last ten years or so.

Someone would see a comment like the one Nigel made in the paper, read it out loud to the lads at work and everyone would go "ah well, who knows..." 

Now it's "how dare they this"..."can you believe he said that" deary me.

Only he knows what work he put into Derby and only he knows how he was treated, up to him what he wants to say.

 

[Alex W]

He has barely made a comment there and people jump on it like he's sniping at the club, seems like a run of the mill 'off the cuff' comment that you'd make cheekily and forget ten minutes later. Fans are getting very tetchy, aren't they?

Also, for argument's sake, our wage bill and expenditure rose when Nigel left which can probably be put down to Mel's arrival coincided with a confidence in replacing Nigel and thereby increasing that spending. There has been a very obvious change in financial backing since he left.

Nigel loaned in Paul Dickov and Lee Hendrie as squad players during one season, we managed to get Darren Bent, Tom Ince and Jesse Lingard in during one window under Steve. It's fairly obvious there was a different financial setup between managers when that happens, though Nigel certainly had a little bit to spend. (Unfair to overlap Keogh and Shackell as two fees as I've seen earlier for example, that is essentially the same £1m).

[Inverurie Ram]

3 hours ago, PrivateDerby said:

One thing I've noticed is how feminine men have become over the last ten years or so.

Someone would see a comment like the one Nigel made in the paper, read it out loud to the lads at work and everyone would go "ah well, who knows..." 

Now it's "how dare they this"..."can you believe he said that" deary me.

Only he knows what work he put into Derby and only he knows how he was treated, up to him what he wants to say.

 

And only PD knows what he was wearing last night, he's up a bit early this morning coz the mini dress, stockings and high heels he fell asleep in last night were killing him, and at this point I heard his new hair style that Maureen cut and styled yesterday at the Salon looks fantastic, cost him an arm and a leg, but according to all reports and all the gossip of the ladies on this forum it looks great, but when PD regrettably is banned, sacked or asked to walk the long walk away from the forum, the same bitches can't wait to slag him off behind his back!

PD I think your hair always looks great and your new shoes are just a-m-azing, and did you watch Britains Got Talent last night, that young girl singer was fabulous, her make up was out of this world and to die for!

Up The Prams.

[Day]

I'll openly admit I'm in touch with my femine side, even grew meself a pair of boobs

[Derbados7]

4 hours ago, PrivateDerby said:

One thing I've noticed is how feminine men have become over the last ten years or so.

Someone would see a comment like the one Nigel made in the paper, read it out loud to the lads at work and everyone would go "ah well, who knows..." 

Now it's "how dare they this"..."can you believe he said that" deary me.

Only he knows what work he put into Derby and only he knows how he was treated, up to him what he wants to say.

 

We're all a bunch of fannys mate 

[rynny]

4 hours ago, Alex W said:

He has barely made a comment there and people jump on it like he's sniping at the club, seems like a run of the mill 'off the cuff' comment that you'd make cheekily and forget ten minutes later. Fans are getting very tetchy, aren't they?

Also, for argument's sake, our wage bill and expenditure rose when Nigel left which can probably be put down to Mel's arrival coincided with a confidence in replacing Nigel and thereby increasing that spending. There has been a very obvious change in financial backing since he left.

Nigel loaned in Paul Dickov and Lee Hendrie as squad players during one season, we managed to get Darren Bent, Tom Ince and Jesse Lingard in during one window under Steve. It's fairly obvious there was a different financial setup between managers when that happens, though Nigel certainly had a little bit to spend. (Unfair to overlap Keogh and Shackell as two fees as I've seen earlier for example, that is essentially the same £1m).

I started the thread off as I thought it was quite a funny comment, hence the title, Aww poor Nigel, people can react how the feel.

What we don't know is why the wage bill rose. Is it because we could loan a higher calibre because we had Steve in charge and the money was there but Nigel couldn't get players that were good enough on loan. I had heard from a few places that teams were reluctant to loan players to us. Is it a coincidence that Nigel leaves and we loan players from Liverpool, Manchester United and Chelsea within 4 months?

He signed Hendrie in a swap deal with Jordan Stewart.

How is it unfair to use both Keogh and Shackell? He spent money on them both. That is like saying it is unfair to say Thorne as the money we used to buy Thorne was essentially the money we gained by getting to Wembley, which we probably wouldn't have done under Nigel.

[ronnieronalde]

2 hours ago, rynny said:

I started the thread off as I thought it was quite a funny comment, hence the title, Aww poor Nigel, people can react how the feel.

What we don't know is why the wage bill rose. Is it because we could loan a higher calibre because we had Steve in charge and the money was there but Nigel couldn't get players that were good enough on loan. I had heard from a few places that teams were reluctant to loan players to us. Is it a coincidence that Nigel leaves and we loan players from Liverpool, Manchester United and Chelsea within 4 months?

He signed Hendrie in a swap deal with Jordan Stewart.

How is it unfair to use both Keogh and Shackell? He spent money on them both. That is like saying it is unfair to say Thorne as the money we used to buy Thorne was essentially the money we gained by getting to Wembley, which we probably wouldn't have done under Nigel.

Those clubs who were reluctant to loan players to us under NC?

We got Ayala and Brad Jones on loan from Liverpool.

We got Smith and Carroll from Spurs.

MIchael Keanes loan from Man Utd was arranged and over the line before NC was kicked out.