IlsonDerby Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 For all the mocking if our team today was to play the Clough team which had the midfield and attack of: Bailey Savage Cwyka Bueno Commons Kuqi Then I'd back that team to score an absolute hat full against us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 True! Ditch Sir Alf and replace him with Bob Paisley instead then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 22 minutes ago, GeneralRam said: Mistakes started when Mac got sacked (Mel's first decision I think?) Have to strongly disagree. With 12 games left of last season we were top of the league and 17 points ahead of 7th. We lost a seventeen point cushion in 12 games and the only reason we didn't drop further is because we were 24 points clear of 8th at that time. Any manager with that sort of collapse needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, IlsonDerby said: For all the mocking if our team today was to play the Clough team which had the midfield and attack of: Bailey Savage Cwyka Bueno Commons Kuqi Then I'd back that team to score an absolute hat full against us! Other than Bueno and Commons none of those players really went on to better things after Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Just now, TheDeadlySaul said: Other than Bueno and Commons none of those players really went on to better things after Derby. So what's your point? Can you see the majority of our current team going on to better things? My belief is that on a shoe string budget Nigel Clough put together a side that would hammer us if we were to put the two teams against each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Didn't Commons semi-retire into Sunday League football after leaving us? Say what you like about Savage, but he got to Wembley before us as well....albeit in a Dancing capacity.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 1 hour ago, scarboroughwa said: Well actually, the mistakes started when we lost Clough. Brian Clough. Any arguments??? Letting the Doc loose at the BBG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, IlsonDerby said: So what's your point? Can you see the majority of our current team going on to better things? My belief is that on a shoe string budget Nigel Clough put together a side that would hammer us if we were to put the two teams against each other. Tell me, where did that side finish at the end of the season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlsonDerby Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 1 minute ago, TheDeadlySaul said: Tell me, where did that side finish at the end of the season? Why ask questions you know the answer to? It finished a lot higher than this side would though if the last 3 months was extrapolated over a full season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Just now, IlsonDerby said: Why ask questions you know the answer to? It finished a lot higher than this side would though if the last 3 months was extrapolated over a full season... Such a stupid thing to say, that side played well till November and had a spectacular collapse bigger than our last two seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 1 hour ago, Holdontightuk said: Wolfie20....he wasn't given any money, yet we've managed to blow almost £30mill since he left including loan signings. It's laughable how short memories are. He performed a minor miracle in what he achieved and some of the foundations he created and he was clearly completely committed to the club. Yet some on here would have Rowett instead (really?!). Its hilarious how some on here think Pearson or Warburton offer up any more potential to us, when we could have 2 out and out Derby men leading us in Clough and MM. Just cut out the middle man in Rush. I agree he did the sort of job that was needed to stabilise the club under difficult circumstances, as i said in my previous post. However, it became apparent that he had neither the technical acumen or match strategy skills needed at a higher level and his spell in charge at Sheffield Utd was hardly a roaring success. Us blowing the money has no relevance as to whether NC would have fared any better than McLaren or Clements. I am by no means one of the NLN mob - in my opinion they conveniently overlook the situation we were in when he took over but neither am I one of those who are blinkered by the surname. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIMBAUD Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, IlsonDerby said: Why ask questions you know the answer to? It finished a lot higher than this side would though if the last 3 months was extrapolated over a full season... I think you'd have to wait till the end of this season to make meaningful comparison. They did play some good football but the wheels came off them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eatonram Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Too late but I wish he was still hear personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenbyRam Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 I cannot believe people are still obsessed with Clough almost three years after he was sacked. If we'd employed any other non league manager, you'd have hounded him out the club after a year if he'd had the same record as Clough. Move on, please!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanram Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 I would be interested to know what MM thinks of Clough's reign, more out of interest than wanting anything to actually happen. I'm not a fan of looking backwards and wouldn't agree with reappointing NC but do agree he deserves credit for some of the things he did. I think the comparison to him and Howe is telling. Howe appears to have a lot of nouse but more importantly is open to learning new ideas in his approach to management, whereas NC has decided on his philosophy and is unwilling to change. I always look back on his time and think his biggest mistake he made was not being more progressive with the staff he hired around him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMuffin Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Empty seats at the ipro. That's what I think of when I hear the name Clough. Bloody disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loweman2 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 1 minute ago, loweman2 said: Is that @eddie driving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loweman2 Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 7 minutes ago, McMuffin said: Empty seats at the ipro. That's what I think of when I hear the name Clough. Bloody disgrace. There will be plenty of more empty seats appearing at the ipro as this season develops into a bore fest !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 2 hours ago, Holdontightuk said: I shan't be quitting due to any juvenile moronic posters....I might however if I finally lose interest in the club after over 40 years of being a fan. MM needs to get his **** sorted and quickly. You've been a fan for over 40 years and this is the point you might lose interest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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