PodgeyRam Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 10 minutes ago, StringerBell said: I think I've only seen him in a couple of things but starting to notice him more. He was great in Bloodline. And I've only just realised he was the Hall and Oates bloke out of The Place Beyond the Pines. I didn't really notice who he was until I saw him in the Dark Knight Rises. He was in Starred Up with Jack O'Connell and he was amazing in Animal Kingdom. Loved Place Beyond the Pines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 On 2/15/2016 at 13:54, Paul71 said: Yeah so i see, maybe they kept him on the list so it didnt spoil the film as i guess everyone would have guessed the outcome. I still dont rule something out, Ewan Mcgregor and Haydn Christensen are rumoured to be making an appearance and nothing about them either, i think there will be some surprise appearances, hope if they do appear its done well though. It seems a bit odd re Harrison Ford as he wasnt going to be killed off originally, so i guess he must have agreed to multiple films, he was only killed off quite late in proceedings so they say. ******* Hayden Christensen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anag Ram Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 I must admit it have never seen a Star Wars film all the way through, nor read or watched Harry Potter, nor have I seen an entire episode of Friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 On 06 January 2016 at 17:28, Gritters said: Are you sure Rey hasn't been trained? Jedi's are trained at an early age. The training be at the back of her mind. Possibly, but I wouldn't be satisfied with that as an explanation. Jedi's start training at a young age because force mastery is bloody difficult and takes many years to perfect. For her to train to a pre teen age, then have her mind wiped and get dumped on a planet would require me to believe that she was already stronger than an adult Sith at age 8/9 (whenever she was left) and the absence of any practice of those skills didn't degrade them in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 She is clearly Luke's daughter though - so strong with the force she is. I bet her midichlorian count is through the roof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 16 minutes ago, Anon said: Possibly, but I wouldn't be satisfied with that as an explanation. Jedi's start training at a young age because force mastery is bloody difficult and takes many years to perfect. For her to train to a pre teen age, then have her mind wiped and get dumped on a planet would require me to believe that she was already stronger than an adult Sith at age 8/9 (whenever she was left) and the absence of any practice of those skills didn't degrade them in any way. come on no one bats an eyelid about a farmer jumping in an xwing fighter and flying it perfectly, even when his droid gets blown up to offer no help, and puts his missiles in a 2m hole without the help of his targeting computer after a couple of hours messing about with a lihtsaber and a remote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 21 minutes ago, StivePesley said: She is clearly Luke's daughter though - so strong with the force she is. I bet her midichlorian count is through the roof He's just found out about the backdated child support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Leicester Ram said: Anyone got any idea who that black hooded figure is, I know Vaders in this but it doesn't look like him? I think it is Vader. Its someone kneeling infront of something flanked by imlerial guards. Vader has a cape bit no hood in a New Hope. Dont forget this is set before new hope and will show Vader in battle - something not yet seen on screen. Maybe its a different suit worn for battle that has a hood? or maybe its a secret apprentice that grows to be supreme leader Snoke - after all Snoke knows about the rise and fall of the Empire and Vader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Looks good....i bet another film thats a million times better than the prequels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 3 hours ago, StringerBell said: Unless they're giving him a cloak for some reason. It does appear to be the Emperor there though as the Imperial Guard are standing to the side. And it looks like a Bacta tank behind the hooded figure. 2 hours ago, davenportram said: I think it is Vader. Its someone kneeling infront of something flanked by imlerial guards. Vader has a cape bit no hood in a New Hope. Dont forget this is set before new hope and will show Vader in battle - something not yet seen on screen. Maybe its a different suit worn for battle that has a hood? or maybe its a secret apprentice that grows to be supreme leader Snoke - after all Snoke knows about the rise and fall of the Empire and Vader. Let's go with cloak then. I think it was maybe shortsighted not to have the Vader breathing at the end of the trailer or something like that, just to get some general audience recognition. If that's Snoke, I'll let a wookie sit on my face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 27 minutes ago, Leicester Ram said: Let's go with cloak then. I think it was maybe shortsighted not to have the Vader breathing at the end of the trailer or something like that, just to get some general audience recognition. If that's Snoke, I'll let a wookie sit on my face. I think the spin off films will give clues to who Snoke is. Hes very old. Knows the force. Palpatine, Vader, Luke, the Empire. Hes blind to appear or be hinted at. similarly Max bon Sydows character will be in them. Hes an old ally so will possibly appear in the Solo film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 2 hours ago, Leicester Ram said: Let's go with cloak then. I think it was maybe shortsighted not to have the Vader breathing at the end of the trailer or something like that, just to get some general audience recognition. Have another listen. There's a subtle noise when Forrest Whitaker says "become". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 32 minutes ago, StringerBell said: Have another listen. There's a subtle noise when Forrest Whitaker says "become". darth Vaders secret apprentice then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 3 hours ago, davenportram said: I think the spin off films will give clues to who Snoke is. Hes very old. Knows the force. Palpatine, Vader, Luke, the Empire. Hes blind to appear or be hinted at. similarly Max bon Sydows character will be in them. Hes an old ally so will possibly appear in the Solo film. I just can't see them putting key information about the new trilogy in a spin-off film, it takes away from the 'one offness' of the stories and excludes those who'll just see the Episodes rather than Rogue One. From what I gather, the questions posed by TFA are Rian Johnson's to answer in Ep 8 (and probably Trevorrow in Ep 9), not anyone else's. 59 minutes ago, StringerBell said: Have another listen. There's a subtle noise when Forrest Whitaker says "become". Ahaha just taken me and my sister 3/4 listens to spot that, but it is there! Quite impressed with that. Not sure if either of you are familiar with this guy but he does some pretty good but not uber dry trailer breakdowns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 21 minutes ago, Leicester Ram said: I just can't see them putting key information about the new trilogy in a spin-off film, it takes away from the 'one offness' of the stories and excludes those who'll just see the Episodes rather than Rogue One. From what I gather, the questions posed by TFA are Rian Johnson's to answer in Ep 8 (and probably Trevorrow in Ep 9), not anyone else's. Ahaha just taken me and my sister 3/4 listens to spot that, but it is there! Quite impressed with that. Not sure if either of you are familiar with this guy but he does some pretty good but not uber dry trailer breakdowns I don't think they will be explicit bits if info, but hinting at things to get fans thinking and maybe boost viewing for the stand alones. Anyone watching the main films will watch the one offs because they are released in between them. Plus events in them will have to reference the events in the original trilogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 1 hour ago, davenportram said: darth Vaders secret apprentice then. With a name like Forrest I'm sure he's a little bit evil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Leicester Ram said: Not sure if either of you are familiar with this guy but he does some pretty good but not uber dry trailer breakdowns Thanks for that. He's spotted a few interesting things there. I've just subscribed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 11 hours ago, StringerBell said: Have another listen. There's a subtle noise when Forrest Whitaker says "become". Yeah good catch, after Forrest Whitaker says 'become' you can briefly turn the audio up really high to hear it without annoying the neighbours. Its a very subtle noise however... to subtle? Guess we'll find out in 8 months Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davenportram Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 I reckon Vader is the hooded bloke. No reason for Palpatine to be kneeling, and only Sith kneel to their masters. No imperial officers kneel to palpatine either. reckon hes got a lightweight suit for being involved on ground battles. An aspect of Vader not seen before. Maybe a variation on the mask - as its the respirator that keeps him alive? A better version of this fans concept art could work. don't forget the original concept behind the current mask was to allow travel in space between ships, it just stuck with Lucas. A lightweight battle suit makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 26 minutes ago, davenportram said: I reckon Vader is the hooded bloke. No reason for Palpatine to be kneeling, and only Sith kneel to their masters. No imperial officers kneel to palpatine either. reckon hes got a lightweight suit for being involved on ground battles. An aspect of Vader not seen before. Maybe a variation on the mask - as its the respirator that keeps him alive? A better version of this fans concept art could work. don't forget the original concept behind the current mask was to allow travel in space between ships, it just stuck with Lucas. A lightweight battle suit makes sense. That looks good, i dont sort of get that a lightweight suit will do the job for battles wheras he needs a great big lumbering thing just for pottering around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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