Ramifications

True. Interestingly, I have always wondered what would have happened if Clough had rocked up at The Den in 1967. This was when the London docks were still open and Millwall were still able to draw upon a huge catchment area of local support. Most people in football have forgotten that Millwall were one of the best supported clubs in England when the London docks were thriving, with gates of over 40,000 for Third Division South football and 15-20,000 for reserve games! 
Back then, if Clough could have worked his magic like he did at Derby County, a provincial club, at a London club with a huge catchment area of working class support, then I am positive Millwall would be an established top flight club now. 
My other half is from Suffolk, I often muse with her Ipswich Town supporting family the same thing about Alf Ramsey. If he could have made Millwall, rather than a club not long out of non-league, champions of England, in an era that we had that huge catchment area of local support... 
Oh well.

Tame Millwall fan here. I have posted before, but not for a while. 
I enjoyed the game last night, mainly because you got it on, unlike Blackburn Rovers! Seriously though, as football fans, we all know the epicaricacy or 'schadenfreude' nature of the game's culture... and last night was a classic example. It was interesting and enjoyable to see a large crowd gather to get behind their city's only professional team so passionately, as their young and patched up side gallantly tries to overcome the huge obstacle of a 21 point deduction. I mean that by the way. I am not taking the Michael. This sense of spectacle was heightened by the fact that I was one of the 514 band of followers of perhaps the most unfashionable football club in England, managed by a disliked former Derby manager and containing some unpopular former 'Rams'. 
I think once the disappointment of losing what on paper looked like a winnable home match dissipates for you, you will be once again be filled with pride and no little hope - as Rooney and your players are doing an amazing job. I see some are already in that place. As others have pointed out, your young side came up against a very experienced and well-drilled defence last night. However, it must also be noted, that the reason we 'celebrated like we had won the league', is because we are going through our own injury crisis, and are also having to field a lot of young players, including a 15 year old! 
I also take issue with being called 'tin-pot'. Yes, we are a small club at Championship level, but I would not say we are tin-pot. I associate 'tin-pot' with clubs with no real character, history or romance. The sort of club whose fans sing the same old generic songs as everyone else - thankfully I have never heard a Millwall crowd sing a generic football chant like 'Everywhere We Go' or 'Easy' etc. etc. In fact, because of our strong sense of identity and character, I have only ever heard us sing very Millwall centric songs - NOLU, Let Em Come, Millwall to different tunes. 
Furthermore, Millwall have a rich and proud history - pioneers of professional football in London and the South no less. The only club able to challenge the dominance of the northern and midlands sides in the late Victorian era in football's oldest competition - the FA Cup. In fact, this is the reason Millwall are the only senior football club in English football to earn their nickname through footballing endeavour and achievement! Formerly the 'Dockers', Millwall were christened the 'Lions of the South' by the national press, after giving the likes of Aston Villa (the best club side of the Victorian era), Everton, Preston NE and yes, Derby County, bloody noses in the cup! 
Moreover, I was first taken to The Den by my granddad and uncle in 1985. By my maths, in the 37 seasons that have followed, Millwall and Derby County have played at the same level in 23 of them. That hardly suggests that going by endevours on the pitch, that Derby County are a vastly superior outfit. In fact that reflects rather poorly on Derby County, who represent a whole city and since Chesterfield have slipped out of the Football League, are the only representative for the whole of Derbyshire playing top level football. Whereas Millwall have to compete with some of the biggest clubs in world football in Arsenal, Chelsea, Tottenham Hotspur and West Ham United (spit) only a tube ride away, plus the likes of Crystal Palace and Charlton Athletic on our doorstep. I would argue that rather than being 'tin-pot', we are a very well-run club that gets the most out of its resources, allowing us to be a humble but proud second tier battler that no-one likes playing at The Den or in the cups. That may not be 'ambitious', but what's the alternative? Chase the dream like Derby County? 
That leads me on to Gary Rowett. Many Millwall fans are not enamoured with him either. You are correct, sometimes the football is painful. But needs must. Again, I take issue with it being 'typical' Millwall. From my time supporting the club Millwall have always been an aggressive and direct team yes, but in a positive way. That is to say, taking the game to the opposition, especially at The Den. However, Rowett is a dour pragmatic manager. That isn't Millwall, more like Charlton! But, times have changed, the Championship is full of big city clubs with regional level support like Derby County, Nottingham Forest, Sheffield United etc, all wanting to get into the promised land, as well as clubs like Bournemouth and Fulham, their pockets filled with the filthy lucre of parachute payments. Millwall currently need to keep their heads down and become more and more entrenched, like a tick in the Championship beast and hope we get a lucky season like Burnley or Huddersfield Town did, or even the jammiest of jammy clubs - Crystal Palace! 
Also, the club hierarchy are quite happy for a steady ship, as their main concern is this: https://www.millwallfc.co.uk/news/2020/february/millwall-reveal-plans-for-stadium-redevelopment/
The opportunity to develop land around The Den, which would allow us income streams to compete seriously for promotion. If and when it gets given the green light (Lewisham Council has already approved the adjoining Renewel development), then I would imagine Huski will fully takeover the club and maybe our ambitions will increase. Until then, it is all aboard the keep it steady Rowett Express! 
Okay, if you bothered to read all that, I will sign off by genuinely wishing you well... because as football fans of a grand old club like Derby County, you certainly do not deserve what you have been through! Even if you do not win this battle, I am positive you will bounce back stronger for it! Good luck. 

He actually stuck it pretty much where you'd want him to I think - zone of uncertainty for the defenders - with a couple of our players hovering to pick up a deflection or rebound.

I think Plange is excellent at keeping possession and holding up the ball. 

Keeps his place against Millwall for me , well done Eiran, a solid performance

“I still roar and can't stop! My son made his Derby County debut !!!“
How great is that?

Peterborough are pretty toothless so a sterner test but yes,  if he can have a game like that in front of a sell out crowd no reason why not

Yes, in stages. Another three points back tomorrow.

Rooney said his tactical decision to leave Lawrence higher up the pitch was wrong in hindsight, which imo explains why the left was too exposed, Lawrence does a lot of good work tracking back, naturally drifting to the left side, also Thompson being there probably didn't help, he's looked off the pace for a couple of games and being asked to do a different role didn't work.

Interesting, as our left side was the weaker against 'Boro, we will definitely have to improve. 
When I read your comment, I thought, Festy is better on the right and it's fair to say his defensive play isn't his strongest point but actually it's a good call because him attacking on the left will keep them on their toes. They will be too busy defending to mount attacks. 
 

Could use Festy at LB, especially as most Peterborough attacks on Wednesday came down their right, keep them in check by having to worry about his pace

Lawrence does give 100%. He’s very hard working, and in fact always has been. His running stats have always been high. He tracks back and works hard for the team. His attitude seems off because of his body language, but for an attacking player his work rate can’t be questioned. Rooney would be delighted to keep him, as would I. 

At least it looks like we’ll be stayin alive.

Good result for us last night I thought.
Posh now have to play us less than 72 hours after leaving the pitch last night.  They will also be distracted by their FA Cup run.
If we beat them on Sat we go above them, psychologically very important at this stage if the lads can do it.  Goal difference is SO important now.
Reading are obviously all over the place, the whole less than the sum of the parts, fans disgruntled, dressing room tensions etc.  Once we are just one place and only a few points below them and with a much superior GD then, given the form of both teams, the pressure will be very much on them rather than us.
I originally thought that we would need 12 points from the 6 games in Feb to bring us within sight of Reading, but it now seems that even if we can just pick up another 3-6 points from the next 3 games we will be breathing down their necks.
As long as this form continues, the fact is that we do seem to be the team out of the bottom 4 best placed to escape the drop.
Finally, if/when we do overtake Reading, the pressure then piles onto the other 3 teams because they will know that, compared to them, we are likely to pick up more points going forward - IF the current run of form continues.
Who would have believed 2 months ago that the table would look like this?
What a season!
 

Maybe we could see him returning for next season? His contract at Stoke is only until the end of the season. I was so sad to see him go. 

I certainly never thought Rooney was a football genius. I don’t think he had a trick in his locker or had the capacity to make an opponent look silly. Best, Gazza, Le Tissier, Hoddle were all blessed with great vision and ability. Rooney is not in that class. But what he’s always had is the determination and winning mentality. It’s almost like his life depends on it and I don’t think I’ve seen an English player care more, ever. It’s this that sets Rooney apart and makes him an all time great.
He has shown as a manger that he won’t accept lack of effort as he shipped out Marriott and Holmes in short order. What we’ve all seen from his team is total commitment. We’ve not seen that at Derby for years and that is down to Rooney’s uncompromising view of how football should be played.
We know staying up is a very difficult task but we also know it won’t be due to lack of effort
 

As he will be out of contract, if we go for him, it's up to him who he chooses, so not automatically Stoke City. He seems close to Wayne. 
Forty years old, yes, but that's irrelevant if he wants to continue and remains good enough to command a place in the team. 
It might be me but I just think we lost something when he went. If you consider the Birmingham and Middlesbrough games, there's some pretty sloppy goals conceded in those two matches. 

Derby County were founding  members of the Football League. We were there before the Football League, and we will be there after the Football League (in its current form) is no more .

Maybe we could see him returning for next season? His contract at Stoke is only until the end of the season. I was so sad to see him go. 

There are some clips on YouTube with some pockets of trouble in the town, I have to say like many Boro fans I have always admired and like Derby county football club, I hope this is just a stupid small chapter between our two clubs and hopefully get back to the friendly banter we have always had.
hope you stay up and go to better things in the future UTB and Derby.

Middlesbrough v Derby County Sat 12th Feb 2022.
 

Well to the players and to rooney every single derby fan out there are fighting hard out there I think home game against peterboro untied is heading for a sell out again. We as derby fan believe that you can pull this off. The efl will not keep us down for ever we shall rise again and when we do under you rooney we shall win this freaking league stick with us rooney we are close to coming otherwise long deep dark tunnel and black and white light at the other side shining bright.

That's where we miss Shinnie, but it'd be better if referees just did their jobs properly.