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I think the bit where he wrote according to Peter Marples might be a clue.

I think the bit where he wrote according to Peter Marples might be a clue.

To do what? IF you think it would acheive something we could try to arrange - but I'm not sure of the purpose.

The Oystons though were far easier to hate right from the outset - rapist Dad, son on the take, paying themselves £10m dividends rather than spending to keep the club in the PL, dodgy hotel deal, threatening fans with libel as the club descended the divisions, law suits with another investor.....they probably still walked away with more than they ever invested. 
MM is paying for his mismanagement, and may yet pay for any breaches of the law. He may have had a tougher ride from fans if Covid hadn't made protests much harder to organise effectively. Derby fans were caught in a dilemma, particularly when it became clear that he was trying to get out anyway - and fans become naturally defensive of their clubs when it seems everyone else is attacking it. 
Whatever MM walks away with, he'll be massively out of pocket and with his reputation utterly destroyed. Don't underestimate how much the latter in particular will hurt. And there's still the law potentially to deal with. 
 

I feel increasingly uncomfortable with this whole process of administration because it feels like  the usual players are still trying to manipulate events to their advantage. 
We all think Mel Morris has walked away, leaving us in this mess, but I think he is still involved behind the scenes and trying to get the outcome he wants. Whether that is an outcome that is best for Mel Morris or best for Derby County FC remains to be seen. They could be the same thing.
But, we have administrators appointed by him, two previous owners, the most recent CEO all very active and involved in this ongoing process.
Kirchner offered something different,  a fresh start without the decades of club politics. Whether he could have delivered on it, I don't know.
But I know I am weary of the same faces who have not been good for our club in the past, still hovering around the honeypot. I worry that Appleby has been talked about for over two years but has still failed to produce a bid that could have prevented administration in the first place or made an early exit a possibility; that Gadsby is a safe pair of hands who really doesn't have the financial clout or the ambition to rebuild the club; that the administrators are busy being administrators rather than actually working for a better solution.
Meanwhile we as fans have more uncertainty and no say in proceedings. We have to fight to change that in future or this won't be the last time we find ourselves in this situation. 
 

Nah, I’ll stick with Derby, Merry Christmas ? 

Kirchner may have offered a bid that could total £60m, but, without seeing the text, caveats, limitations and assumptions on that deal it's impossible to say of it's better than any other offer. 
The 9th December "fake deadline" comments basically mean they let others submit a bid after - not ideal, but an understandable move from the administrators.
The administrators duty is to the creditors - and that is how they are duty bound to assess the bids.
The administrators have stated the bids are significantly different in form/structure so evaluation is not straightforward.
Lack of engagement, well, if it's in a phase of "we are evaluating rival bids" you wouldn't expect a lot of engagement during that part of the process as the evaluation has to maintain integrity.
It's possible CK knows his deal was built on the minimum to creditors he thought he could offer and get the deal done but a rival bid might offer creditors more. He's preparing the ground for "I really tried, but, deal's off" after being so public.

The administrators in October:


The administrators in December:

 
The administrators in 2051:

 

It's call "progress" @B4ev6is.....'kin IT Geeks like @Boycie& @David got massively bullied when they were at school for being Nerds & now they run the World ensuring IT systems everywhere just don't quite work so you end up tearing yer hair out and slingin' yer laptop out the winder! ?

I can imagine, but I think that’s all I’m allowed to do ?

Fair point Bobbster, in that no one can say for sure that QPR cost us promotion by their overspend......just as no one can say for sure that DCFC cost Boro promotion or Wycombe relegation by our much smaller overspend.....The difference is that DCFC are being sued and QPR were not, despite us argueably having a stronger case. What Galls is that we have been publicly lambasted far more than any other Club, denied Covid loans and now being sued for far more than the fine you actually paid and yet not a single Club, even previous transgressors like QPR have offered the slightest support. In fact what did your striker do at Pride Park a few weeks ago?

Tickets on sale for Coventry fa cup £20, general sale tickets for people with at least five years buying history and on line sales only. ( all assuming we have any football to go to in the new year.)

Do I think Rooney is a tactical genius?
No, but he's learning and has improved over last year.
Do I think he's getting the best out of the players available?
Mostly yes. Sibley and Jozwiak are possible exceptions but there may be other reasons for that. All players appear very motivated despite the club's position.
Has Rooney had long enough to prove his credentials?
It's not the time so much as the circumstances. These are exceptional times and it's nigh on impossible to judge.
Could another manager do better with the club in its current plight?
Maybe. We will never know. Without a goalscorer and with a 21 point deduction, it's hard to see anyone doing "well enough" (also note what's happened to many people's oft touted candidates: Hughton, Cook and Jokanovic).
So what's so good about Rooney?
The way he has conducted himself throughout this whole sorry process. By all accounts his approach to the players and staff has been empathetic, considerate and thoughtful. He has surprised me with - for the want of a better word - his "class". He thoroughly deserves our support.
Let's judge his football management when (if) the club is ever stabilized. Once he has truly been able to assemble his squad and started playing his preferred tactics rather than those dictated to him by squad availability and the quest for survival.
Come on Derby. Come on Rooney ?

No.
He's still leading us through the most difficult and horrendous season of our club's existence with a dignified calmness and getting superb performances from our squad of old men and kids.
We'll still be singing, "He goes by the name of Wayne Rooney", loud and proud for a bit longer yet.,
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Okay thanks for the reply, I’m not here to be confrontational, been reading this site for a fair few years (along with most championship sites ) and quite recently have seen QPR mentioned a few times. Not that it helps any I don’t think any team should be suing another. 
I still have nightmares about QPR’s administration and relegation to the third tier in 2001, we had 5 registered players at the start of the following season, had a total rebuild and after 3 seasons got back into the championship.
I can still remember our “rich owners” stitching Derby up with exorbitant ticket prices as you’d just been relegated and deemed to be a category A game.
many of us weren’t happy when Tony Fernandes started buying players we couldn’t afford as if they were panini stickers and I think the other clubs are right to be ducked off with the way our club went.
it’s taken a few years but we are now doing things correctly and are just starting to reap the rewards. However I expect if we don’t go up this year then our young starts will be sold and we’ll have to start the cycle again.
Hope you get a new owner (pay HMRC off) and become competitive again.
merry Christmas to you all.

Stop being negative we had enough of that.

Consensual agreement with Boro and Wycombe? Why don't we tell the chancer bar stewards to do one? Paying them a single penny for their absurd claims would be a travesty and an embarrassment. 

Wetherspoon’s open at nine, how long do you need 
 

Not 100% sure but I presume the early kick off is on police advice after crowd disturbances caused by people that have had too much to drink. The minority making the majority suffer .

Oh they've listened to it, it regularly gets applied to every single aspect of the football club no matter who is in charge, no matter the year, the current league position or whatever  - there's always fault to be found, and find it some will!
It's not exactly brave to predict that something in football will fail and end badly, you may as well just be predicting that the weather will mostly be rubbish again next year and then piping up whenever it rains to remind everyone.
I'm sure there are Leeds fans who've looked at their last 2 results and used it as a springboard to tell people that they always knew Bielsa would get found out!
Not one Derby fan thinks everything is all roses.
There's a vast difference between 'having doubts' and taking every single available opportunity to pour scorn on the club and find every angle to slag it off.
There's such thing as a healthy level of bias.
It's not about being the 'best supporter' but some people so rarely voice any form of support, any optimism, any bias towards the club or anyone associated with it and then seem surprised that their level of support is brought into question! They can always fall back on "I told you so" though.

You should show this to all your friends to let them see how clever you are. 

Thrashed my wife at crazy golf and then won a free game at the end, back to spoons for another pitcher of zombie cocktails  ?‍♀️ ?‍♂️ to celebrate.

Breakfast overlooking the millennium stadium and Cardiff arms park and no football to go to.?

Thrashed my wife at crazy golf and then won a free game at the end, back to spoons for another pitcher of zombie cocktails  ?‍♀️ ?‍♂️ to celebrate.

Thrashed my wife at crazy golf and then won a free game at the end, back to spoons for another pitcher of zombie cocktails  ?‍♀️ ?‍♂️ to celebrate.