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Kathcairns

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    Kathcairns reacted to Boycie in VIP visitor !   
    It’s all an act though.
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    Kathcairns reacted to Crewton in Krystian Bielik   
    Yeah, they also have an extremely negative view of everything connected with club. 
    Anyone who saw Bielik play last season and still thinks we overpaid for him is having a laugh.
    Whether we should have spent that kind of money is a different issue.
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    Kathcairns reacted to May Contain Nuts in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    Are you sure you're not talking about Keogh?
    No class and pure ruthlessness would have been sacking them all (which would be 5 players, not just the main 3), not trying to find a solution to suit the circumstances. Offering someone a reduced wage, free rehabilitation and a chance to make amends to the club, the fans, their teammates etc isn't being classless and ruthless.
    No class and ruthlessness is taking an offer (one which in reality was more generous than anyone should expect given their actions) -  playing the martyr about how you feel pressured into accepting it, laughingly complaining that it "didn't feel like a negotiation" (it bloody well shouldn't have been you entitled berk!)  - rejecting it and effectively suing the person who put it in front of you because you see an opportunity to make some money.
    No class and ruthlessness is taking that money whilst the club you profess to love is in administration and people on a normal wage (still less than you would have been offered) are losing their jobs.
    No class and ruthlessness is never accepting any culpability for your actions, never apologising to anyone.
    Some call Rowett The Snake, but Keogh & his agent are lower than a snake's belly.
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    Kathcairns reacted to Raich Carter in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    Eh? Are people forgetting that Keogh got himself injured? So they didn't 'all do the same' - Keogh made himself useless to DCFC. The others did a very silly thing but were still capable of playing. 
    With regard to Mutu - yes, Chelsea successfully sued him for the £15m.
     
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    Kathcairns reacted to Indy in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    I’d say that being treated equally doesn’t mean equal outcomes. Players who were able to fulfil their contractual obligations and play were kept on. Players who were not able to fulfil their contractual obligations through no fault of the club were offered reduced terms but ultimately let go. Dressing up as gross misconduct muddies the water, but as this was only tested in a pretend EFL court, not a proper industrial tribunal, we still don’t know if it was a reasonable position for the club (and Mel) to take. 
     
    Personally, I think he’s got his money and his beef is more with Mel than DCFC, so it’d be better if he went away rather than trying to stir up a national press pity party with his compo face and £2m in the week that twenty normal people got made redundant. 
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    Kathcairns reacted to Woodypecker in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    They didn't all do the same thing, in the law books.
    Others were in charge of, and driving vehicles whilst over the drink-drive limit.
    They subsequently had convictions, fines, bans, public service orders, so there were clear legal parameters on the record for those prosecutions.
    In a sense, they 'paid' for their crimes - whilst (as others have said!) Derby ended up paying for Keogh's misdemeanours, lack of judgement, poor leadership, whatever -  in more ambiguous areas of judgement - and that the EFL process contrived to find in his favour.
    Keogh was an average player, a loyal journeyman defender, who only ever held The Brian Clough Trophy in his hand as a Ram.
    He's beyond contempt for the impact his neglectful, brainless behaviour caused the club, in financial and squad morale terms overall.
     
     
     
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    Kathcairns reacted to Premier ram in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    For Richard Keogh , the EFL, Mel Morris , Steve Gibson , Wycombe Wanderers , Simon Jordan the message is simple Just Duck off the lot of you
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    Kathcairns reacted to Ewe Ram in Ryan Conway has left the Athletic   
    Is he being sarcastic? An enormous honour? An enormous pain in the backside more like 
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    Kathcairns reacted to Van der MoodHoover in Derby County Administration (with the slight possibility of Liquidation still there)   
    A mystery British interest you say..... ?

     
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    Kathcairns reacted to Ramarena in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    Saint Richard does not discriminate based upon looks!
     
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    Kathcairns reacted to Mucker1884 in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    Jesus H Christ!  What is it with folk still trying to defend him, like he is some kind of saint!
    It was one drowning puppy, for crying out loud!  JUST ONE!
    ... And a mongrel at that!  Not even a cute one!   Jeez!
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    Kathcairns reacted to angieram in VIP visitor !   
    Looks like they were in hospitality - all extra money into the club.
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    Kathcairns reacted to Waffle in VIP visitor !   
    I see him at a fair few games (usually not dressed like that) not going to say which seats as I think he deserves to enjoy the game as much as we all do. 
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    Kathcairns reacted to Van der MoodHoover in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    I'd give Gordon Taylor a bell mate. You'll be a multimillionaire within a couple of months. 
    Ole Gordon wouldn't let small issues of morality, general good, or egregious greed get in the way of helping out a player of the beautiful game.... ?
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    Kathcairns got a reaction from Comrade 86 in Phillip Cocu breaks silence on Derby County exit   
    Wish we could say the same about keogh.
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    Kathcairns reacted to Comrade 86 in Phillip Cocu breaks silence on Derby County exit   
    Ever the gentleman, I kind of get the feeling that resentment and bitterness don't figure on Phil's list of useful emotions.
    The man will probably live to be 100. 
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    Kathcairns reacted to Comrade 86 in Garry Cook   
    I'm onboard with anyone who puts up the cash bud. The club needs saving.
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    Kathcairns reacted to PistoldPete in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    Exactly. An indpendent employment tribunal would have assessed the case on the basis of whether dismissal was within the range of appropriate punishments for someone who is a professional footballer and club captain to get drunk, get into a car (and allegedly not wearing a seat belt?)with another drunk person driving and then  get yourself injured and unable to perform your employed duties for over a year. 
    I am in no doubt what an indpendent tribunal would have decided.  The fact that Lawrence and Bennett escaped the punishment of dismissal (possibly for commercial reasons) is irrelevant, the club was within its rights to terminate any or all of their contracts.     
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    Kathcairns reacted to PistoldPete in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    It wasnt a Court of Law, nor even a proper employment tribunal. It was a kangaroo court set up by the EFL and the Players union.
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    Kathcairns reacted to Archie in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    Obviously spent no time at all with Lawrence that night ?
    Lying get. 

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    Kathcairns reacted to PistoldPete in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    I think the point being made is that the decison not to pay him didn't cost us because if we had paid him, he would have been paid for doing nothing which is how things have turned out anyway.  If he had returned to fitness within the remaining term of his contract, he would not have got in the team ahead of Davies,  Clarke or Wisdom. 
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    Kathcairns reacted to Mucker1884 in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    Not sure a court of law was involved in anything other than the drink/drive related charges to TL & MB.  Don't think Keogh was anywhere near a court of law, nor the club, in this instance.   
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    Kathcairns reacted to angieram in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    For the umpteenth time, it wasn't a court of law. It was the EFL Players Related Dispute Commission,  where Keogh referred it after his appeal to the EFL had originally failed.
    If he had taken it to an independent industrial tribunal, that would have failed too. 
     
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    Kathcairns reacted to Raich Carter in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    If Keogh hadn't have acted irresponsibly then you're right, it wouldn't have happened.
    My point was financially we lost nothing. 
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    Kathcairns reacted to Raich Carter in Long Keogh piece in the Guardian   
    Not sure if it’s been said or not but the pay out was just the money Keogh would have been paid if we hadn’t sacked him so not sure it’s quite as bad as some think.
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