Kathcairns

Merged for you.
I think a lot fans will recognise and be cautious that they may be next. With modern football and the growing chasm between the top and the rest, this will likely be an ongoing trend.
We're not the first and won't be the last. Clubs can laugh if they like, but in reality like us, they're really only one game from poo or bust.

Couldnt find original thread but perhaps mods can merge. Terrible night but I have been heartened by the huge number of supportive messages under clubs posts and elsewhere from fans of other clubs tonight. Not for the board etc but towards us as fans and Derby as a football club separate to its ownership. Thanks to those genuine football fans

I admire these sentiments and your refusal to take a defeated brain state. If Wayne and the players do this, we could feel much closer to them and prouder of them. However, to get to January in decent shape will be very difficult. Then we will lose all our assets. Even if we can trade, the disruption is huge. It would be one of the greatest escapes ever if we didn't get relegated.  We should fight it but not fear it.  Sadly I fear this season is mostly meaningful in terms of how we reset and rebuild and who will be involved. This is a painful but riveting part of the ongoing epic story of our club. The rebuild and restoration could be thrilling and more meaningful for it.

Needless to say, today's game is huge.
If we lose, we lose, but we need to see the players leave everything on the pitch, IF they do that, as Wigan did, dare I say we stand a chance of surviving, albeit a slim chance.
Now if they walk out, heads down looking defeated then it's finished, we're down without a fight and I fear Rooney will walk despite showing incredible loyalty so far. 
The players need to step up for him, if not for us, and we, as fans, love him or hate him need to give him all the backing we can starting from today. 
We do not want to be on the lookout for a new manager whilst in administration, a squad full of kids.
-12 is a given, we know that's coming as it's been confirmed, however if the EFL write off all the other potential punishment as they did with Swindon due to new ownership, we may be in a position to bring in some new faces in January.
Let's be honest, the EFL are not out to punish us, the fans, the club itself. Their crosshairs are lined squarely on Mel's forehead. If he's out the picture, they may lower their weapons.
Understand this is all very optimistic given what has happened, the odds are not stacked in our favour, however I can't sit here and demand the players do not walk on to the pitch today already defeated whilst having that attitude myself.
If there ever was a time for siege mentality, this is it. 

It would be better to get all points deducted this season rather than any carried over to next season….

Whilst all of this has had MM in charge and oversight of the finances so it sits with him, I acknowledge that Covid has tipped us into Administration the role of the EFL has to be noted as simply disgraceful, simply unhelpful and a dereliction of whatever their duty was supposed to be.
and on a personal note I will never be handing any money over to Middlesbrough football club again to watch my Rams and do hope that not a single Rams fan ever does go to that clubs grounds and spend money - 

Does it really matter?  We are going down anyway with the mandatory 12 point deduction? Another 9 or so points won't make any difference.

Just accept the penalty, get rid of Morris and start again from scratch in League 1

This hurts more because this isn't some dodgy, secretive ownership from a foreign country putting the club into administration, it's a local man. A man who i thought had the best interests in the club at heart. We all make mistakes, this is a huge mess. We're all human. What angers me more is a local Derby man has taken zero responsibility for this mess. Zero. Blaming COVID, blaming the EFL which is a valid argument. But to not have the integrity to accept ultimate responsibility for the financial mess of the club is a disgrace. He gambled and failed. Have the guts to stand up and apologise to the supporters tomorrow or next week. Supporters who have backed this man through thick and thin. We trusted you Mel. We trusted you. And you've not had the decency to communicate clearly to the fan base, now we're left in an unknown situation where worse case scenario there will be no more Derby County.
Shame on you.
 

To be honest i hope mel is there and we turn up and disgrace ourselves ? boo's, missiles being thrown, his car tipped on its side, game abandoned ?
 

Hopefully Mel won’t be there therefore no reason to protest. Let’s just all turn up, celebrate our amazing club and back the players to the hilt. Hopefully we’ll smash Stoke tomorrow.
Im hoping this is the start of something positive again, we will be going to league 1 first but it’s all about the future now. Firstly we need a buyer before Jan!! 

I was really annoyed last night when the news broke. I was close to posting something about Mel that would have restulted in a warning. 
However this morning I'm more calmer. I'm getting too old, I've lost interest in football over the last couple of years and starting to emotionally detach myself. I'm losing the love for the game in general. 
The Premier League is ruining football with the money. Grass roots kids football is political with coaches & parents thinking its the champions league final when they don't even keep scores at that age. Then the farce that is Mel Morris' time in charge. 
I feel sorry for the people who rely on the club for a living. I feel sorry for all the die hards who its more than a club. I feel sorry for all the kids that support us who won't have witnessed any good times & who's interest in football might be lost. 
Football really isnt that fun anymore 

Morris says losing 1.5m a month but how is this true? our wage bill can't be massive .....don't beleive a word he says ....
Some time ago i wrote that he was never going to sell the club with what he was asking for it and guess what?? he hasn't......
Mel for me goes down as one of the worst owners we have ever had....from a well run club when Nigel Clough and the yanks kept a steady ship with many seasons of treading water with gradual improvement and a good squad of players and nearly getting promoted to..................................................... ...going into administration !!!! I mean.....IT IS A DISGRACE MR MORRIS .....all that hard work before mr ego arrived  has been undone !!!.......I think we all thought we were in good hands , a local businessman who's a fan etc etc ....but the club has been run shambolically and we as fans have been lied to and mislead....I truly feel sorry for anyone involved with our great club who is waking up this morning worrying about paying there mortgage etc....a shocking mess....such a sad day for DCFC 

Agh, it just makes me so angry. How badly do you have to have run things if you are worth half a billion yet your only choices are to sell the club to whoever will buy (to pay for your expensive mistakes), or to put the club you claim to love in administration, forcing them into a lower league and undoing years of work on the academy/developing players, who can now leave for peanuts? 'The EFL made it hard to sell...' Cry me a river. You are only so desperate to sell because of the consequences of your decisions. It's your mess, no one else's. 

I know the blame ultimately is Mel's, but I'd like to see some sort of banner when we go to the Riverside. Asking Gibson if he's really happy he won, and helped in getting many people to lose their jobs.

Ever since it came to light that Derby was being ran badly and our owner decided to go into hiding, our fan base has been the only true shining light. Oh, and Rooney and the players who have been the most professional bunch of people to represent Derby County under ridiculous circumstances. 
Tomorrow I'll be supporting my club, Wayne and the boys and hopefully 3 points. 

We don't need demonstrations at any games.
Now is the time to show the football world that Derby County have one of the best fan bases in the country. Loud and proud boys and girls all game tomorrow. 
Let's show any possible buyers that they have a great club to come into, not a toxic one. 

Looks like Gibson co-ercing the EFL to appeal the stadium sale, subsequently passed as legal, has turned out to be the main driver keeping this hanging over us for so long. If the decision had been accepted as it should, then the other stuff could well have been sorted a lot earlier.
Gibson's got his way, The EFL have been proven to be a weak and cowardly organisation.
Yes, the buck stops with Morris, but if the EFL had conducted themselves impartially and not reactive to Gibsons mardarsery, it would have been resolved months ago.

The humour is fun to read. Adversity is the best source for good comedy.
But I feel sick. I'm in tears.
I've been through the Tommy Doc times, ripping apart the great team, the division 3 days, the Maxwell era, Lionel and the co-op affair, the three amigos, 11 points. But I genuinely feel this is worse than any of those.
Administration is not a fast track to a better future. Working people will really suffer as a consequence.
We will lose all those promising youngsters that have kept us interested over the past couple of years of struggle.
This is truly heartbreaking. I am really gutted.

Really irritates me that Gibson throwing his toys out his pram has ultimately cost us a takeover and resulted in hard working people behind the scenes losing their jobs.
Then football in general, the big 6 nearly destroyed english football bit have got away with it, we try to get promotion and overspend & get punished by a governing body who should be there to help & support their members not seek & destroy them.
Then finally, teams who got lucky & got promoted whilst breaching P&S/FFP get away with it as do the likes of the deals between Watford/Udinese & Forest/Olympiakos which clearly are done to get around the rules

Just trying to think of some positives from all of this...
Hopefully all possible deductions apply to this season meaning next season we can start from scratch
Relegation is out of the players & Rooneys hands, almost a free hit of a season to try new things out & give youth minutes
Mel will finally be gone
Just hoping we have someone competent take us over, no point deductions apply to next season & that we actually have a club to support next season.

The really sad thing about this is not only has Mel screwed up……….he’s also turned us into a club that screws over it’s creditors!
Awful

Well .. that’s it then. League one next season and with a points deduction on top of that. 

All things pass .. we are going to have 3 or 4 difficult years by the sounds of things.
So what ! As long as the club survives as an entity and 11 blokes pull on a shirt. Then we get behind them and hope for a win. 
 
I only hope un secured creditors, the small people, don’t get shafted by systems and politics
 

 

Get angry in the stadium. But direct it at that scumbag Morris. Rooney and the playing staff need everyone’s support. They will be feeling this just as much as the fans. 

Love to see that some of you can still come out with the predictable snarky "but what you do expect to happen? We can't possibly have any effect on the club with our actions"
If you believe that, don't go tomorrow. If you don't think you can have any impact, why the hell are you taking up space in the stadium? Go to make an impact. Make your voice heard. Express your displeasure.
For God's sakes, you deserve to scream and make the roof come off Pride Park. You deserve to lose your rag and shout at the top of your lungs. Why the hell else do you go to the stadium if not to release your passion, in both good times and bad?
I won't keep my gob shut. Neither should you. This is an outrage, where is your anger?