Derby blood Posted September 14, 2021 Share Posted September 14, 2021 Back by popular demand. After a hard fought point against WBA, now we turn our attentions to Stoke at home on Saturday, if we show the same heart, and a little bit more care in front of goal i believe we will win this 2-0, goals from Jozwiak and Lawrence, 3 points on saturday, could give this team a real confidence boost. jono, cosmic, 48 hours and 11 others 3 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 It's interesting that just the addition of Knight feels as if it gives us more depth. And even though Fozzy remains suspended, what an opportunity for Dylan Williams (who had the most touches by far of a Derby player against West Brom). It was an immense effort to earn the point against the Baggies. The question for Rooney is whether he changes an undefeated team? I think he probably should, bringing Morrison into the reckoning. The re-signing of Davies and the signing of Jagielka look to be masterstrokes and we have a solidity at the back as a result. And building from the back is the right thing to do. But we all know, if we're to stay up we need to find a way to start scoring goals. Does Baldock do enough up front? I'd consider Stretton instead, but I'd also be open to the false number nine thing we tried against the Gumps. LeedsCityRam, Derby blood, Miggins and 12 others 9 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Need to get further up the pitch and be able to play much more of the game in forward areas to create chances. To get 2-0 usually implies we will have the majority of shots - we won't win many games if the chances are 20+ to 4 in favour of the opposition. Maybe a midfield 3 of bird Knight and Morrison linking to the forwards? LeedsCityRam and leroyoftherovers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuxtonRam74 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Given their form I’d take a point to be honest, just to keep the resilience going that was shown last night against WBA. More of the same from Roos and the defence please… Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 We need to go back to how we played in the first few games. Yesterday, whilst brave, has to be a one off. Rammy03, Carl Sagan, hydraulic ram and 11 others 1 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 I get the impression that O'Neill has, slowly but methodically, adapted Stoke's style of play to something more appealing. They're still a pretty muscular team, so it will be a physical challenge too, but a welcome change from the last two games. So I'm hoping for more of a football contest, but a tough game nonetheless. A point wouldn't be a bad result, a win would be fantastic. I expect Morrison and Bird to return, so it's a question of Knight or Shinnie : my guess is it will be the former, which will be a test of Bird's resilience in the holding roll. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philmycock Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 I hear on the gravevine the police are expecting city centre carnage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 7 minutes ago, Philmycock said: I hear on the gravevine the police are expecting city centre carnage Oh no, they're not going to redevelop the inner ring road are they? 48 hours, Ellafella and David Graham Brown 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leeds Ram Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 Atm I can't see us winning this or many games as we simply don't do enough going forward. Stoke are in good form and O'Neill is no mug as a manager. I'd take a point right now but at some point we've got to start winning games surely... Jimbo Ram and Deej 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Oh no, they're not going to redevelop the inner ring road are they? Funniest Derby joke ever about Derby from Chubby Brown: ”Some 1-way system you’ve got here: you have to throw an effing 6 to start…”. dabber, 48 hours, jono and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 We’re at home so I would expect us to revert to playing out from the back. The fact Rooney himself said he didn’t like watching the game yesterday and said it’s ugly football Derby fans won’t like watching would also suggest it’s an occasional plan B. Performance first half v Forest and taking our chances I think we can win this one. If we go for a win and get a draw that would also be an ok result. My team would be as follows: Roos Byrne Jagielka Davies Buchanan Knight Bird Sibley Morrison Jozwiak Lawrence Same as Forest but Buchanan and Knight in for Foz and Shinnie. Bird is good defensively and is better at getting us playing from deep with his passing breaking the lines, Knight gives us energy, can break up play but also can support the front 4. Definitely need to tweak the full backs tactics at times for this one, can’t have both Byrne and Buchanan pushing right up unless we’re well on top. dabber, brady1993, LeedsCityRam and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 I'd like us to try and use a 442 like we did against Shef Wed with Waghorn and CKR up front. Created opportunities and scored. With Davies and Jags at the back, surely we have to try it at some point? But probably not as WR wants to play out from the back and stick with 4231. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 6 hours ago, sage said: We need to go back to how we played in the first few games. Yesterday, whilst brave, has to be a one off. Surely, we don't have to play one way or another, can't we mix it up a bit? Last night, there were a few opportunities for Roos to play the ball short to a defender, who wasn't under pressure. By mixing it up during a game, you don't let the opposition settle into a pattern of play. Ruud Aralliss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Aralliss Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ram59 said: Last night, there were a few opportunities for Roos to play the ball short to a defender, who wasn't under Edited September 15, 2021 by Ruud Aralliss Completely misread quote!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Philmycock said: I hear on the gravevine the police are expecting city centre carnage Are you deadly serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Philmycock said: I hear on the gravevine the police are expecting city centre carnage Which means a person will be arrested for wearing a loud shirt in a built up area on matchday David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 1 hour ago, BramcoteRam84 said: We’re at home so I would expect us to revert to playing out from the back. The fact Rooney himself said he didn’t like watching the game yesterday and said it’s ugly football Derby fans won’t like watching would also suggest it’s an occasional plan B. Performance first half v Forest and taking our chances I think we can win this one. If we go for a win and get a draw that would also be an ok result. My team would be as follows: Roos Byrne Jagielka Davies Buchanan Knight Bird Sibley Morrison Jozwiak Lawrence Same as Forest but Buchanan and Knight in for Foz and Shinnie. Bird is good defensively and is better at getting us playing from deep with his passing breaking the lines, Knight gives us energy, can break up play but also can support the front 4. Definitely need to tweak the full backs tactics at times for this one, can’t have both Byrne and Buchanan pushing right up unless we’re well on top. More or less think that's the line we should go with. One thing I think is that we might be better shifting to a 433 with that midfield as I think it would suit the personnel and possibly help with moving the ball through the lines. With that said I can understand the merit in sticking with a 4231 and keep developing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsCityRam Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 34 minutes ago, brady1993 said: More or less think that's the line we should go with. One thing I think is that we might be better shifting to a 433 with that midfield as I think it would suit the personnel and possibly help with moving the ball through the lines. With that said I can understand the merit in sticking with a 4231 and keep developing it. I suspect it would end up being a 4-3-3 anyway because of Morrison's tendency to come deep & then move up the park. Ideally, I'd prefer him to stay as a number 10 & utilise his creativity and quick feet in their final third - it would also open space for Sibley & Jozwiak and get him closer to Lawrence. Bird is capable of quality through the lines into the front 4 & Knight is a decent 'fetcher & carrier' so would think it unnecessary for Ravel to come as deep as he has so far this season. GB SPORTS and brady1993 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Big Bad Bob said: I'd like us to try and use a 442 like we did against Shef Wed with Waghorn and CKR up front. Created opportunities and scored. With Davies and Jags at the back, surely we have to try it at some point? But probably not as WR wants to play out from the back and stick with 4231. Nice idea but we haven’t got Waghorn or CKR or anything like them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYRAM Posted September 15, 2021 Share Posted September 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Nice idea but we haven’t got Waghorn or CKR or anything like them sadly we have nothing up top. I feel that will be our diwn fall. take last night if we do we could have nicked it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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