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6 hours ago, Ramarena said:

Birds a man possessed 

Would be fabulous, if Warne can consistently get Max playing with more intensity 

7 hours ago, IslandExile said:

 

1. Was it not possible to appoint Warne during the summer so that he could assemble the squad that he would have wanted?
2. Did Warne assure him that he could work with the current squad or is he expecting a lot of trading during upcoming transfer windows? (And follow up: how frustrating would that be?).
3. Does he and Warne put much emphasis on the Academy, including recruitment of young talent and Category 1 status?
4. Was the aim promotion this season or, given Warne's 4 year contract, the bigger picture is the Derby County rebuild with promotion as and when it happens?
5. Are targets - e.g. regarding league position, academy graduates breaking into the first team - being set?
6. Onto more general things: over what timescales does he see himself as the owner? Having been reluctant in the first instance, would he be looking to sell? Soon? In the Championship? In the Premier League?
7. Given Warne's title is Head Coach rather than Manager, will the club be appointing a Director of Football to oversee transfers, playing strategies etc?

You can ask these questions all you want. Most people can guess what the fobbing off answers will be. They won’t tell you what you want to know, you just have to wait. Actions speak louder than words 

1 hour ago, Curtains said:

Still love Max 

I like him too but this interview is alarmingly like his last few performances. 

On 22/10/2022 at 03:39, Bris Vegas said:

I hope not.

We all know Nigel Pearson’s 4-4-2 direct football was never going to work after Clough and McClaren had built a possession-based 4-3-3 side. 

I’m sensing a deja vu. Sort of.

We had to get bodies in the building during the summer. But all of our signings were geared towards a possession-based 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1.

Smith, Hourihane and McGoldrick are three ball-playing central players. NML and Bark wide forwards. 

But after just a handful of games we have ripped up the summer recruitment by ditching Rosenior and going for a manager with a completely different style.

Paul Warne plays 3-5-2. He has three promotions with that. I rate him highly. He isn’t going to move away from something he knows works, especially at this level.

But it’s clear we don’t have the players for his style. Barks is looking terrible at LWB. NML looks a shadow of the exciting wide forward of the first few games. I can see Hourihane struggling to get back in. McGoldrick too.

To get promoted, something must give. Warne will not get us promoted with this current side.

Changes will have to be made in January and next summer. I just hope DC is patient and smart enough to realize this and gives Warne the time to build a side who can play his system.

 

Oh mr warne, you’ll see we’re torn

(and some are getting quite forlorn)

Smith, Hourihane and Bird have class

and Didzy, he just loves to pass

So get the best out of our roster,

don't come in like some imposter

hoofing balls north, east, south, west 

let’s see our squad play at its best 

The fans deserve a fine display

of skills at pride park - and away 

they’re honest and deserving folk 

please please don’t make us play like Stoke 

So here’s the rub:  a manager should

work out what each player could

deliver, if he’s at his best 

... then make it happen. That’s the test 

6 hours ago, SKRam said:

A true classic…… White Rat from Osset. Say what you like about Yorkshire….. ok no don’t, but their beers are the best in the country. I’m stating that as a fact. Liveners before the game then post match celebration ales in Stockport. 

Well the suffolk ales take a bit of beating. Broadside in particular.  
And that one there’s the wrong colour 

1 hour ago, Pikeyram said:

The away pub is called the Station hotel, funnily enough it's bang opposite Ipswich train station and only a 2 minute walk from the ground, see you in there later...

Ok if you’re drinking lager or Guinness. On Monday they didn’t have a single bitter on. 

34 minutes ago, scout's dad said:

 

Don’t think he’s had too good a pre season so might be a sub?

He could be a match winner if they put him on the bench and tell him to stare boggle eyed at the oppo to give them all the heebie jeebies 

17 hours ago, Yani P said:

Not one of their players would make a world's best U21 first second third fourth or fifth best team.

sixth ? 

On 19/10/2022 at 15:54, OohMartWright said:

Those who are criticising/questioning Warne for saying Thompson played well need to remember that his job is to build confidence, not destroy it. Personally, I think Thompson would benefit greatly from a loan to a League 2 or National League club.

Yes. He’s right to praise his work rate. And Tommo’s confidence is not at an all time high just now so he needs a boost. He’s mentioned Tommo twice now and hopefully PW will turn him around 

Loach 6.5

Rooney 5

Stearman 6

Forsyth 6

Oduroh 6

Thompson 6

Smith 6.5

Knight 6

Roberts 6.5

Collins 6

McGoldrick 7

Cashin 6

Bird 6.5

Sibley 5.5

Dobbin 6

Osulah 6

23 hours ago, Tamworthram said:

A win would be absolutely massive but, given we’ll be without Collins and it’s still early days in the Warne era, I’d take a desperate 0:0 draw right now. But, it feels like we need to win the next two at home.

Lincoln did us a favour last weekend. People will say it’s early days but a top two finish is a far cry if we don’t win most of the 6 pointers against Plymouth, Ipswich, Portsmouth, Wendies...   Home and away. 

37 minutes ago, Magicman said:

i have higher expectations of the team we played most were right off the mark. 

True there weren’t many sparkling performances. But the pace those guys move the ball and themselves at is a different level, we’re not accustomed to it 

47 minutes ago, Magicman said:

Totally smashed by an U21 team

Some of the best players in the world at that age. And each generation is stronger that the last. Have you forgotten what we’ve just been through? We did ok 

3 hours ago, Crewton said:

Comments like "I've never been more embarrassed to be a Derby supporter" and "we can't win consecutive games" are what i had in mind, just as 2 examples. Allot of the stuff goes much further than merely 'raising concerns', or at least come across to me that way. The counterpoint views have mainly been posters pointing out that we weren't playing against any ordinary U21 side and our own selection had an element of 'training game' approach which produced a poor performance that many felt others were reading too much into.

I expect negative comments after any defeat but these, coming after a good performance on Saturday seemed well OTT to me.

Exactly. We’re away at Liverpool. So Lord knows when we’ll next see as much talent at PP. Mansfield was the problem. It was a pleasure to see the wunderkinds on show  (and on another day we would have beaten them). Remember the names 

8 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Angelino to Leipzig and Nmecha to Wolfsburg for £30m. Garcia left on a free

This summer, Southampton paid£35m for Bazunu, Romeo Lavia, Larios and Edozie. Gyabi went to Leeds for £5m

It’s like you’re the only guy on here who’s on the internet 

30 minutes ago, alram said:

most of them in that team won't go on to play prem football.

Several from that Citi team could play in the prem now.
 

As for us, Knight might make the fringes of a lower PL team but no one else would right now 

2 hours ago, DavesaRam said:

 it was that one decision to not give a free-kick for the foul that swung the game. The ball broke through for roadrunner to score, and our heads went down straight away. Game over.

Roberts made the initial error, a poor pass that put Collins immediately under pressure. Collins is very slow to adjust, he’s weak in the tackle and he’s lost the ball before he’s fouled.  
We deserve what we get after that catalogue of errors 

On the plus side, it was heartening when a couple of times on ramstv they showed Rooney looking despondent followed immediately by Stearman and Bird giving him words of encouragement. 

29 minutes ago, Crewton said:

Last time I looked, we WERE a L1 side, and THAT other team was the U23 team of the richest club in the world.

not the richest club      the richest group of clubs   

14 minutes ago, ilkleyram said:

I don’t think there’s anything in the rules that says you have to be moving

This (below) suggests otherwise. Emphasis added.  I think it’s right that a player is permitted to stand still anywhere on the pitch, excepting offside and set pieces 

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What is the obstruction rule in soccer?

Impending the progress of an opponent without contact, that's how FIFA named in the 2020/21 rules the obstruction offense. If a player moves into the opponent's path to block, obstruct, slow down, or force a direction change when the ball is not within playing distance, the foul is called.

2 hours ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

They got beat by Mansfield.   Last season they were stuffed 5-0 by Rotherham and lost to Doncaster.  A team of professionals with over a thousand games between them, mostly championship level, should be comfortable winners against any team of teenage talent. It's an embarrassing result that probably sets us back significantly confidence wise .  Dobbin is the worst one on one player we've had since Tommy Johnson,  Thompson needs to go out on loan to Mickleover as soon as possible.

We also got beat by Mansfield. That’s why we’re out.

Can’t comment on them last season against Rotherham or Doncaster but on another night we’d beat them pumping balls into the box and putting Curtis at no 9. In the knock our stages we’d be evens to beat them. 
 

we were done for pace all over the place. No surprise,  they are faster man for man. We needed Dobbin to score, yes,  and Cashin to make that header but those are 1 in 3 and 1 in 5 respectively. The Borges guy made Rooney look like his uncle aged 34 and the only senior ram whose experience really showed was McGoldrick who after a slow start put on a glittering display of guilded footwork. (He knew what was going to happen 3 seconds before everyone else so the fact he was 2 seconds slower didn’t matter.) Yes the issue with Tommo is his first touch which has deserted him. I’d prescribe beta blockers 

2 hours ago, Millenniumram said:

Think this is the most embarrassed I’ve been as a Derby fan since 2008

Don’t understand that. We’re a strong div 1 club playing against a group of players all of who could be full internationals in a few years. That Man City team would challenge most championship clubs. And we’d beat them another day. I though we played ok given the game was played at a pace that’s completely unfamiliar to us 

For my money we should have started with the Osulas and Dobbins and finished with Didzy and Collins 

3-1.  That guy Wilson Esbrand is fabulous. 
 

No shame losing to these guys just now we’ve not done badly 

4 minutes ago, Yani P said:

Thompson needs a loan in January..looks a shadow of the player we saw last season..

Hmm a bit harsh tonight I reckon 

Bird looking classy playing more advanced. I think PW will learn a lot from this game