Maxwell Baxter

One of the weird things about the £100m game or however much the Play Off final is deemed to be worth is that it's only one side of the coin. People always seem to forget the £100m in wages and transfers that will be spent in the event of promotion. Remembering the Middlesborough have greatly overspent for getting on for 30 years now, one would imaging they wouldn't be shy of chucking money at the situation. They haven't lost a penny because of DCFC, they have simply missed out on a lot or revenue and even more expense....

I will apologize if this point has all ready been posted or if I have the figures wrong.
 
I believe Boro are claiming 45 million because they had a 1 in 4 chance of winning 180 million the full amount, However they never had a 1 in 4 chance to 45 million they would have a 1 in 4 chance of winning 180 million
If there claim was for the full 180 million it would have held a lot more weight, by only claiming for 45 million makes no sense at all because they are admitting they wouldn't have got promoted as it never been the case were all 4 clubs agreed to an equal amount.
Which leaves them only able to claim for lost money from one home play off game and at a push a losing trip to Wembley and comes nowhere near 45 million. Admitting they would have failed in the play off's takes any loss of revenue down to at best 3-4 million.
 
With Wackum Wounderers don't all clubs sign up to a code of conduct each year to agree to the EFL rules, by making this claim aren't they disagreeing with the rules of EFL and ripping up there agreement to the EFL's code of conduct and effectively resigning from the league.

I will apologize if this point has all ready been posted or if I have the figures wrong.
 
I believe Boro are claiming 45 million because they had a 1 in 4 chance of winning 180 million the full amount, However they never had a 1 in 4 chance to 45 million they would have a 1 in 4 chance of winning 180 million
If there claim was for the full 180 million it would have held a lot more weight, by only claiming for 45 million makes no sense at all because they are admitting they wouldn't have got promoted as it never been the case were all 4 clubs agreed to an equal amount.
Which leaves them only able to claim for lost money from one home play off game and at a push a losing trip to Wembley and comes nowhere near 45 million. Admitting they would have failed in the play off's takes any loss of revenue down to at best 3-4 million.
 
With Wackum Wounderers don't all clubs sign up to a code of conduct each year to agree to the EFL rules, by making this claim aren't they disagreeing with the rules of EFL and ripping up there agreement to the EFL's code of conduct and effectively resigning from the league.

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I will apologize if this point has all ready been posted or if I have the figures wrong.
 
I believe Boro are claiming 45 million because they had a 1 in 4 chance of winning 180 million the full amount, However they never had a 1 in 4 chance to 45 million they would have a 1 in 4 chance of winning 180 million
If there claim was for the full 180 million it would have held a lot more weight, by only claiming for 45 million makes no sense at all because they are admitting they wouldn't have got promoted as it never been the case were all 4 clubs agreed to an equal amount.
Which leaves them only able to claim for lost money from one home play off game and at a push a losing trip to Wembley and comes nowhere near 45 million. Admitting they would have failed in the play off's takes any loss of revenue down to at best 3-4 million.
 
With Wackum Wounderers don't all clubs sign up to a code of conduct each year to agree to the EFL rules, by making this claim aren't they disagreeing with the rules of EFL and ripping up there agreement to the EFL's code of conduct and effectively resigning from the league.

I will apologize if this point has all ready been posted or if I have the figures wrong.
 
I believe Boro are claiming 45 million because they had a 1 in 4 chance of winning 180 million the full amount, However they never had a 1 in 4 chance to 45 million they would have a 1 in 4 chance of winning 180 million
If there claim was for the full 180 million it would have held a lot more weight, by only claiming for 45 million makes no sense at all because they are admitting they wouldn't have got promoted as it never been the case were all 4 clubs agreed to an equal amount.
Which leaves them only able to claim for lost money from one home play off game and at a push a losing trip to Wembley and comes nowhere near 45 million. Admitting they would have failed in the play off's takes any loss of revenue down to at best 3-4 million.
 
With Wackum Wounderers don't all clubs sign up to a code of conduct each year to agree to the EFL rules, by making this claim aren't they disagreeing with the rules of EFL and ripping up there agreement to the EFL's code of conduct and effectively resigning from the league.

I have no reason to doubt her, If true and proven it's surely game over for the EFL

I have no reason to doubt her, If true and proven it's surely game over for the EFL

Can we get a mod to make a thread with all of the EFL's wrongdoings over the last 2 years.  Have the thread open for people to list the points and then close it and pin it? 
Bullet point format including the likes of the stadium valuation fiasco  using Morcambe's ground as a template, to telling MPs to not make public statements? 
It can then be sent to MPs and the media who have just got involved and who will be unaware of how long and ridiculous this whole process has been.

Absolutely beggars belief! 

This is what she said - but why would the EFL even ask a member of parliament not to make public statements about them - simply staggering 

Pauline Latham is asking an urgent question in the commons between 2 & 3 today - will be live on Radio Derby 
 
sorry if this has already been noted & if this is the wrong thread! 

She’s definitely got a handle on the issues & of course what we didn’t know, is her previous conversation with the EFL asking how she could help. They told her the best thing would be for MPs not to make public statements, so now we’re in this situation & she’s not been contacted by them 
 
very good that she’s on board . We shouldn’t worry that these MPs don’t have a handle on the issues 

Omg she used the extended version of the word bug. 
 
she is furious with them basically. Speaking very passionately. 

Interesting listening to Terry Christian, saying he was a do recently and for an hour before it started Rooney was in deep conversation with Sir Alex.
As for Rooney and Everton, well Lampard was a legend at Chelsea won everything for them as a player but it didn't buy he much favours when it came to managing them.
And as I say he was a club legend is Rooney a legend at Everton, Yes he's from the area played for them from being a kid but a legend? He won all his trophies playing for a team in city that a lot of Liverpudlians hate.
I'll give it about 6 months before you start hearing the shouts or see the banners of “you're Manchester and you know you are”

Interesting listening to Terry Christian, saying he was a do recently and for an hour before it started Rooney was in deep conversation with Sir Alex.
As for Rooney and Everton, well Lampard was a legend at Chelsea won everything for them as a player but it didn't buy he much favours when it came to managing them.
And as I say he was a club legend is Rooney a legend at Everton, Yes he's from the area played for them from being a kid but a legend? He won all his trophies playing for a team in city that a lot of Liverpudlians hate.
I'll give it about 6 months before you start hearing the shouts or see the banners of “you're Manchester and you know you are”

I'm only just catching up with posts from yesterday, but where I believe the EFL are taking a pedantic and erroneous line is that they are effectively saying that these claims must be treated as debts owed to Football Creditors simply because the claimants are football clubs. This is patent nonsense, because they don't arise from any kind of transaction between DCFC and the Claimants. It's not what the Football Creditors rules were designed for. I imagine HMRC think this is bollo too. 
Bear in mind that every £ these two chancers are paid is a £ that genuine unsecured Creditors won't see. The EFL should not be placing them above genuine creditors. It's disgraceful. 

Today is the day. Upset,angry and worried whether my beloved Derby will be around anymore. In my mid 60s now so have given up seeing the Rams in the Premiership in my lifetime (hope not but being realistic). Will be there today next to my son in South Stand. Usually in SW Upper but son's mate has to work as s/e and has been let down by Saturday girl. Despite what goes on the pitch, and a win would do wonderful as this would lift us off the bottom, I ask if all the supporters not just the SS, SW and East Stand but everywhere is the ground to make some noise, not only to get behind the lads, but to make the gutter press,the tv companies,other 'real' football fans that this beautiful club of ours is NOT going to die and we are going to be around for the next hundred years. (Must admit have a slight tear in my eye writing this and no have not been drinking). Derby till I die!
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C'mon Wolfie... Where are yer?

 
 
 
 
 
*Oh... Il'son, yer say?  Well, that's handy!   ?

For me the only thing Boro could possible claim for is the loss of revenue in hosting a post season home play off game, that is the only thing they could genuinely guarantee if Derby had been deducted points. Any other claim for compensation is pure flights of fantasy.

There are lots of reasons i have a problem with Boro's fabricated claim, but a key one is that they reckoned they were good enough as team to get promoted via the play offs in the 2018-19 season.
They missed out to Derby by one point.
Boro were not good enough that season to beat Aston Villa, West Brom or Leeds.
Aston villa beat Boro 3-0 on both games that season.
In my opinion Villa would have easily beaten Boro in the play offs, so they wouldn't been promoted.
And of course by Boro raising this argument, any team that just missed out on the play offs could go back and make a nonsense claim about them being the team that missed out on promotion and should therefore receive millions from the team that stole their place in the play offs.
In the 2014/15 season Wolves missed out to Ipswich on goal difference, but Wolves were level on points to Ipswich, under Boros mentality, shouldnt wolves receive 50 million for decisions that went against them during the season. Decisions which meant that they didnt get enough goals to be promoted via the playoffs.
 
 

Just keep reminding them of Derby's situation in two play off finals QPR and Aston Villa, no other team has been more hard done by than Derby.   

I'm in no way a regular attendee of matches anymore so it's maybe not for me to say but I'm with boycotting this match. Whatever happens it has to be done peacefully and in style. 
Personally I think the really classy thing to do would be to find a small local charity in the Middlesbrough area and donate the cost of a ticket to them. Just image 2000 Derby fans doing that it would bring in over £50000 and it will gain a lot of publicity and show us in a great light. Even thought I would not have been attending the match I'll happily put in £30 or whatever a ticket would cost.
By choosing a Middlesbrough charity it will show we have no problem with Middlesbrough, just there owner who in the long run with his action if true, may well end up doing more damage to his own club than to Derby

I don't post here often and this has been posted by me on the forum elsewhere but it's worth a read.
https://www.mfc.co.uk/news/onthisday-in-1986-pools-play-host-for-born-again-boro
Hartlepool saved there ass in 1986, maybe it's time Gibson showed the same class.  
 

Theres a lot of open space around the Riverside by the docks near that transporter bridge statue thing. Maybe all gather there, Derby fans could still be heard from there in the stadium without buying a ticket. Have a bit of a (social distanced) parking lot / tailgate party during the game.