Jump to content

RandomAccessMemory

Member
  • Posts

    463
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Reputation Activity

  1. Like
    RandomAccessMemory got a reaction from Carnero in EFL appeal   
    I’m not quite sure why there is so much furore about this particular snippet today on social media, all of this has been known since the IDC decision.
    It made comment to the club referencing Transfermarkt and it wasn’t the only way they calculated values, it’s not new news.

  2. Clap
    RandomAccessMemory got a reaction from Zag zig in EFL appeal   
    I’m wondering, if as apparently stated by the club, we don’t fail P&S even with straight line amortisation, whether those restated accounts might actually form part of our sanction mitigation.
    Rather than wait to see if part of their sanction is to make us restate them, preempt it and get them done anyway to show we didn’t gain any advantage in this time period doing what we did as we’d have been under the limit. It would prove our case that we genuinely thought it was a better way of accounting, rather than trying to gain any kind of unfair advantage, which is clearly why everyone assumes we did it.
  3. Clap
    RandomAccessMemory got a reaction from Foreveram in EFL appeal   
    I’m wondering, if as apparently stated by the club, we don’t fail P&S even with straight line amortisation, whether those restated accounts might actually form part of our sanction mitigation.
    Rather than wait to see if part of their sanction is to make us restate them, preempt it and get them done anyway to show we didn’t gain any advantage in this time period doing what we did as we’d have been under the limit. It would prove our case that we genuinely thought it was a better way of accounting, rather than trying to gain any kind of unfair advantage, which is clearly why everyone assumes we did it.
  4. Like
    RandomAccessMemory got a reaction from Eatonram in EFL appeal   
    I’m not quite sure why there is so much furore about this particular snippet today on social media, all of this has been known since the IDC decision.
    It made comment to the club referencing Transfermarkt and it wasn’t the only way they calculated values, it’s not new news.

  5. Clap
    RandomAccessMemory got a reaction from Sparkle in EFL appeal   
    Can I just point out the factual error from the article that was posted, it said one point would send us down, it would not as our goal difference is better than Wycombe’s.
  6. Clap
    RandomAccessMemory got a reaction from Indy in EFL appeal   
    I’m not quite sure why there is so much furore about this particular snippet today on social media, all of this has been known since the IDC decision.
    It made comment to the club referencing Transfermarkt and it wasn’t the only way they calculated values, it’s not new news.

  7. Clap
    RandomAccessMemory reacted to May Contain Nuts in What will our punishment be?   
    How very bizarre of a Derby fan to describe us receiving a points penalty as "Job done".
  8. Clap
    RandomAccessMemory got a reaction from HorsforthRam in EFL appeal   
    Can I just point out the factual error from the article that was posted, it said one point would send us down, it would not as our goal difference is better than Wycombe’s.
  9. Clap
    RandomAccessMemory got a reaction from Ramarena in EFL appeal   
    Can I just point out the factual error from the article that was posted, it said one point would send us down, it would not as our goal difference is better than Wycombe’s.
  10. Clap
    RandomAccessMemory got a reaction from The Scarlet Pimpernel in EFL appeal   
    Can I just point out the factual error from the article that was posted, it said one point would send us down, it would not as our goal difference is better than Wycombe’s.
  11. Clap
    RandomAccessMemory got a reaction from Reggie Greenwood in EFL appeal   
    Can I just point out the factual error from the article that was posted, it said one point would send us down, it would not as our goal difference is better than Wycombe’s.
  12. Clap
    RandomAccessMemory got a reaction from MackworthRamIsGod in EFL appeal   
    Can I just point out the factual error from the article that was posted, it said one point would send us down, it would not as our goal difference is better than Wycombe’s.
  13. Cheers
    RandomAccessMemory reacted to BramcoteRam84 in EFL appeal   
    Good spot. 
  14. Like
    RandomAccessMemory got a reaction from BramcoteRam84 in EFL appeal   
    That was the club’s argument for not wanting the LAP to rule on it, which we cannot appeal, because our procedural defences were rejected in the IDC, but ultimately we didn’t need them as they dismissed the charges anyway (bar the fifth particular).
    Allowing the LAP to rule on the appeal, means that we are found ‘guilty’ of something we can’t appeal as it’s not like we could appeal the original decision to get the rejection of our procedural defences overturned, because we won without them.

  15. Like
    RandomAccessMemory reacted to Spanish in EFL appeal   
    Oh dear, one of our strongest lines of defence was never used but I imagine we could use it at sentencing as part of our mitigation on penalty but not on guilt
  16. Like
    RandomAccessMemory got a reaction from BramcoteRam84 in EFL appeal   
    Can I just point out the factual error from the article that was posted, it said one point would send us down, it would not as our goal difference is better than Wycombe’s.
  17. Like
    RandomAccessMemory reacted to cheron85 in What will our punishment be?   
    This is why I don't understand the ability of the EFL to appeal the original decision
    The EFL was the prosecution - Bringing about a case that we did something wrong
    We were the defendant
    The DC were the 'jury' in this case - And decided that we were 'innocent'
    And then the prosecution were allowed to appeal the decision? Seems a bit bonkers to me
  18. Clap
    RandomAccessMemory reacted to TomTom92 in What will our punishment be?   
    Have been pretty confident that we’d get a fine up until today. If the EFL are pushing for a points deduction this season then they’re going all out war. 
      
    This effectively means next seasons a right off unless we agree to go down. Embarrassing that the EFL are actively trying to relegate a founding member. 
      
    Football is really starting to show it’s true colours this season.
  19. Like
    RandomAccessMemory got a reaction from Spanish in EFL appeal   
    That was the club’s argument for not wanting the LAP to rule on it, which we cannot appeal, because our procedural defences were rejected in the IDC, but ultimately we didn’t need them as they dismissed the charges anyway (bar the fifth particular).
    Allowing the LAP to rule on the appeal, means that we are found ‘guilty’ of something we can’t appeal as it’s not like we could appeal the original decision to get the rejection of our procedural defences overturned, because we won without them.

  20. Clap
    RandomAccessMemory reacted to JfR in What will our punishment be?   
    Should be noted that Sheffield Wednesday's 6 point (originally 12 point) penalty was for an £18m overspend during the three-year period in question, one that the club was aware of having committed. That would seem a far more serious P&S rule break than what Derby are accused of.
  21. Clap
    RandomAccessMemory reacted to May Contain Nuts in EFL appeal   
    Wolves are nothing but a great example of breaking the spirit of the competition (arguably far more than we're accused of) and gaining a competitive advantage through creative means.
    This is a perfect example of something I mentioned the other day - people praise clubs who bend rules to their will & succeed, but paradoxically damn those who bend rules and fail. You're doing exactly that.
    They created a closed market to purchase players well above the standard that were available to any other Championship club & to hire a manager who wouldn't have touched anyone else (hence going against the spirit of competition).
    Sure they used some of their own youth players too, did things well on the pitch but you only need to look as far back as us under Lampard to see how 2-3 players well above the league average can drag the standard of others up with them - the difference is we paid fair value to loan these players, and their availability was not closed off to anyone but DCFC.
    They signed these players for fees below market value, paid them a weekly wage also below market value and instead tied up any financial payments that would see them overstep the spending limits in promotion bonuses. After these bonuses were they handed out they would have broken the spending rules - ie 'cheated'.
    Had they not been promoted they would just defer payments until such a time that they were, carry on bringing in players of a standard unavailable to anyone else and in essence pretty much guaranteed their promotion at some point.
    None of the above are 'the right intentions', they're the complete opposite, but again... as long as they're successful with it people will turn a blind eye.
    People really should have been up in arms about what they did, but seem too scared to complain about it lest they get labelled 'jealous' or 'bitter' that their club didn't think of it. It's ridiculous.
  22. Like
    RandomAccessMemory reacted to Sean in Jordon Ibe   
    Quite a frank and open interview here with Jordon Ibe, mental health discussions start around the 20 minute mark.
    Hope he's getting the support he needs and that he can continue to work his way towards the team for next season.
  23. COYR
    RandomAccessMemory reacted to Woodley Ram in Jordon Ibe   
    Wow, very brave to go on and say that, I think he came to Derby because of the supporters and how we were with him. HIs health is the most important thing, but I hope to see him on the pitch soon and for him to realise he is part of the Derby family, we don't just say once a Ram always a Ram we mean it. 
  24. Like
    RandomAccessMemory reacted to Spanish in EFL appeal   
    quite right, also the examples of retrospective action are not wholly correct or comparative are they?
  25. Clap
    RandomAccessMemory got a reaction from Spanish in EFL appeal   
    Can I just point out the factual error from the article that was posted, it said one point would send us down, it would not as our goal difference is better than Wycombe’s.
×
×
  • Create New...