VulcanRam

14 minutes ago, DiggerB said:

Couldn’t work out whether policing and stewarding was proportionate to risk of trouble ….or intimidatory.

For balance the second phase of Rams fans held outside the station main entrance (of which I was one) parted ways to enable a wheelchair user and a female Barnsley fan with her primary-aged son access into the station without any issue. There are a small number of d******** in every fan-base! We commented that the SYP presence generally seemed pretty OTT, and let’s face it they haven’t got a sparkling reputation themselves!

Yes I was in the second wave as well - not initially but I left the first wave as they were forcing through and I didn't want to get caught up in it. As for the police, they sometimes don't help themselves but they are keeping people off the platform to stop overcrowding and potentially someone falling onto the track. It was the right thing to do, though communication of that was rubbish. The station is tiny and you were straight through the door onto the platform. They only started getting difficult with people when people were being difficult. The real problem was a lack of trains between 5.30 and 6, the busiest time at the station!

44 minutes ago, ram59 said:

I find this hard to believe. 

Out of a crowd of 24,719, you're claiming that there were only 14k home fans with probably 1,000 or so away fans, so that works out at around 18k empty seats or giveaways? It also means that around 6-7,000 season ticket holders didn't turn up for the game.

The club have previously stated that ticket holder no shows are no longer included in match day attendances.

They are, and yes it came from someone at the club because it was a topic of conversation on a connected but different issue.

3 hours ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said:

We have great crowds every week which rarely drop below 26k (and mostly well above) despite "the football".

If its were going to drop off,it's taking a long time,he's been here nearly two seasons.

The doommongers and anti warne brigade live in their own world on this forum,I'd be surprised if many actually go the games.

To add some context, there have been some very low crowds this season - for the Northampton game there were only circa 14k home supporters in the stadium, and they are figures straight from someone at the club. The announced figures take into account all tickets sold/given away - including staff, ST holders, comps, corporate etc. Therefore technically it's impossible to have a "crowd" less that 22k, but that hasn't always translated into bums in seats.

I've missed two or three games this season but I'm still counted as being there.

As for yesterday, I thought it was a good day out until some moronic Derby fans tried to storm Barnsley station after the game. Reminded me why I drive to games.

Just now, angieram said:

Dunno but if you come to East Dene Working Men's Club you can leave it in our car for free. 

Hi Angie, I'll tuck that up my sleeve!! Think we're heading to the Dove Inn which is very close, so if I can't get storage sorted I'll drop you  a DM, so thank you. 

5 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said:

 

🎵 Since they were were born...

🎵 They them followed the...? Needs a total rewrite. Anyway, I'm going to shut up because while it's light-hearted, someone will feign offence, then a load of people will take offence on behalf of the person feigning offence, then loads more will take offence on behalf of people who aren't offended but who they feel should be, and despite nobody actually being offended that's me cancelled and put in the bin. 

Sorry all, having asked about the pub - good shout by the way - does anyone know if there are storage lockers or anywhere to leave a rusksack? It's clear it won't be allowed in the ground and the station doesn't seem to have lockers. Heading for a night out and stay over in Sheffield straight after. 

Gonna be a struggle getting the new words into the song....

As VDL's header nestled in the back of the net: "Palace are absolutely aghast, they cannot understand it...and Nigel Martyn knew the dummies in front of him had let him down" is etched on my brain forever, it's my favourite line from commentary of all time.

You're right, #gottaloveGR

1 hour ago, Steadybreeze said:

Enjoy being held at the station for over an hour afterwards while police video you getting radgy, car for us this year 🙂

Ha ha we’ll probably go for a couple after to let the crowds die down 

I watched the second half of the Bolton game, they looked decent going forward and solid at the back. Did what they had to to win the game without ever being spectacular. Just what you'd expect really. They've got a good front line. 

On 19/02/2024 at 21:32, Taribo said:

Lee Gregory left out too. Thanks for nothing Wednesday. 

I think that's great. They're now stuck with a player they have to pay full wages for, won't play, can't move on, and all totally unnecessarily.

It just heaps more financial stress on Chansiri, which is exactly what he deserves. 

4 hours ago, DavesaRam said:

We as a club ought to be all over this in the media citing Madley’s incompetence and clear bias against us.

We won’t, of course, but we are very likely to pay a heavy price for this appointment. 

It is perhaps a good job I didn’t get a ticket for this match. Almost certainly, as with Burnley, we are likely to see Barnsley get into the automatic promotion places at our expense as a direct result of Madley’s decisions.

That's what I love about you Dave, ever the optimist.

We normally drive for this one, have a bit of lunch out of town and head straight for the ground.

None of that this time, on the train and into the pub; therefore, what's the allocated or best away fans pub where I'm likely to find some of you reprobates? 

22 minutes ago, Ram-Alf said:

Didn't the Derby Ladies team take a hit when they were promoted...this ran into a few £100k, Only told this by a Moor Farm employee 🤷‍♂️

No, because they've not been promoted.

If they were, the cost of running the Women's arm of the club would increase by around £350,00-£500,000 because of the extra requirements moving from the amateur game (National League North, where they play now) to the Championship, which is semi-pro with some pro teams in there. And the revenue won't necessarily match the outlay.

Even in their current league Newcastle are full time professional, Forest are heading there, Wolves are heading there. They all have stated ambitions to be promoted to the Championship, and in Newcastle's case, the WSL. Not surprisingly, Newcastle are running away with the league and Forest, who won it last year, are second. 

There is no rush on Derby's front at the moment to pump money in for this to happen, given the extra financial outlay should they be promoted. 

11 minutes ago, ossieram said:

I'm in D block and don't join in with the chants at other Derby fans. 

I don't know which block are which tbh, all I know this was coming from up the top near the away fans segregation. I'm towards the top to the right of the goal (as you look at the pitch), but don't know which block I'm in. 

1Wildsmith 7 - not called into action that much but two bits stand out - a good near post save and a missed punch which rebounded off Nelson's arm and forced Bradley to clear off the line 

35Nelson 7 Just goes about his business with the minimum of fuss

5Bradley 8.5 Excellent performance - that's the player we'd hoped we'd signed. Won headers, clearance off the line, good blocks, more mobile, looked more comfortable with the ball at his feet. 

6Cashin 7 just went about his job well 

24Nyambe 6 Great defensively, most certainly not a wing back

11Smith 7 came on and made a real difference, good to have him back

8Bird 6.5 Quiet first half, came to life after Smith came on and was pushed forward

32Adams 7 Quickly becoming a vital part of the team with his energy and willingness to get stuck in

20Elder 6 Again, good defensively but doesn't have a natural attacking instinct so not a wing back

2Wilson 6 Not sure of his role first half, looked better second when switched to RWB

11Méndez-Laing 6.5 Not a game to remember but set up the winner

7Barkhuizen 6 Not a lot came off for him but can't fault his effort

17Sibley 7 A good game for him to come into, great movement and finish to win the game

9 hours ago, NegativeCreep said:

Well said @VulcanRam.

The D block have become a hindrance to the atmosphere in the southstand in my opinion.

We're all Derby aren't we?

Indeed, but in the eyes of a few, some are more Derby than others.

Last week I questioned Warne's substitution of Nyambe, and I'm still not convinced it was the right thing to do. But if you're going to question, you should always praise as well when it goes well.

Yesterday, his substitutions and personnel switches were bang on and went a long way to helping us win the game. Releasing Bird higher up, bringing on Smith who can pass, putting NML wider and having Sibley in and around the area, all great tactical switches. Great job!

2 hours ago, sage said:

His arm was raised to head height and away from his body. The current laws give too many handballs, for me it should be just deliberate, but under current rules and how they are applied, I'd expect that to be given.

That's 2 clear penalties we've got away with in the last 3 home games. After some other games such as Bolton, we were due some rub.

I agree.

I didn't see it at the time, but looking at it today if the ref sees it, I'm surprised he didn't give it. If it had been the other way around, I would have expected a penalty.

1 hour ago, ossieram said:

Some of us were singing for the majority of the game. 

There’s a section of the south stand high up towards the away fans who seem more obsessed singing songs slagging other Derby fans off than they do supporting the team. It’s something that’s emerged this season.

Any slight lull and it’s “silence as usual”, “south stand’s a library’ or yesterday’s joy, “support your team or f-off home”. Been going on a few games now, finally other supporters started giving them some back and then an argument ensued.

So yesterday, as has been the way recently, the atmosphere in that stand hasn’t been good, made worse by some fans doing the old trick of “we’re better fans because we sing more” routine. It’s just arrogant and divisive, and for that matter wrong. Fortunately the team turned up second half just before it started getting ugly. 

Then in response to the manager’s excellent subs and shift in players, we got right on top of Stevenage, we played some good football, the supporters responded and the rest has been well covered in this thread regards the atmosphere. 

On 13/02/2024 at 17:31, Ellafella said:

I gather Warney’s interested in signing Barnton United’s Clark Kenton, who’s been banging them in all season from offside positions…see attached/below…

Please can you post the other page of the spread? I want to see what happened!

2 hours ago, ap04 said:

Until these suit Derby at which point they'll pop up again in a flash. But have you considered the possibility it was the scoreline that was "false" rather than the stats? Seeing as they are a broader sample and football is notoriously unfair.

More than anything it shows how blinkered fans are by results. On chances created (objective no emotion bias or agendas) we didn't deserve to win the game, yet nobody out of a 100 seems to think so.

Make that nobody out of 101.

10 minutes ago, Ram-Alf said:

Just a little point of contention concerning JC continually being caught offside, Now I've not witnessed this as I neither go to PP or watch on RTV only read it on here, Has anyone ever thought that the reason he's offside is because the player with the ball holds on to it just that little to long...just a thought 🤷‍♂️

No, it isn't that. Often he's coming back into play to make a challenge, or his starting position is just wrong. Players will now know they can catch him offside easily so it's probably happening more often. Much would be solved if he made more of an effort to get back onside quickly before thinking about joining back in with play. 

He needs to get it sorted because its unnecessary and disruptive.

30 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said:

So what? It seems some fans are reluctant to accept, primarily after going into administration and attempting to deal with the aftermath of that, WE ARE a League one club like it or not. We have to earn promotion with the resources available and within the restrictions we have to work under and do what we can to succeed.

In our current position, I'm not in the least concerned about how we would fare in the Championshop should we get there next season - let's worry about that when the time comes. 

I agree, though I watched the Coventry v Millwall game yesterday and the standard was much higher than I expected, perhaps just because I've not watched much Championship this season. Then I watched the Soton/Huddersfield game. Even Huddersfield looked good and they might well be a L1 team next season. Given the current crop of management and players, although I'd prefer to be in the Champ than L1, something is going to have to improve significantly, which it may or may not depending on the outlook of the owners. 

1 hour ago, Tamworthram said:

I’m not sure if you’ve contradicted yourself there or if I’m just reading it wrong. Yes Nyambe is our best right back and yes Wilson had only just come on the pitch BUT, as you say Wilson was on the wrong side of his man and the team as a whole (not just Wilson and Collins but the 8 outfield players in the box that allowed to the ball to run through to their player and then give him all the time in the world to take his shot) failed to deal with a fairly straightforward situation that we shouldn’t have to rely on Nyambe to do. 

Nyambe had dominated that side of the pitch and usually does that’s why I wouldn’t want to lose him for a few games (over and above how much we lost him due to the Alcon) if he’d picked up an injury. Warne was either over cautious or sensible in bringing Nyambe off, we’ll never know whether he would have aggravated the injury if he’d stayed on. 

Apologies if not clear TR, what I was trying to say was that if Nyambe was on the pitch, the way he defends generally and had defended all afternoon, I imagine his positioning would have put him in the right place and that ball would have been shepherded out for a goal kick. But as you say, who knows what would have happened had he stayed on?

If Warne felt it was serious enough to remove him from the pitch, no problem. In the moment it seemed, to me anyway, he wasn't visibly struggling hence the frustration. Anyway, it is what it is and it's done, so we forget about it and move on. In the great scheme of things, we're still second and need to crack on.