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I'd like Pompey to go up, Bolton not so much, there just seems an undertone around their club that they deserve it more than the other contenders. This may come from tne manager - one of those who in his own mind never deserves to lose a game and isn't shy in telling everyone.  

I hope he proves himself because chances are he's here next season and he'll be on decent money.  If we go up, no chickens being counted, if Warne sticks with a back 3 then Nelson, Cash, Nyambe, Bradley, Fozzy, Rooney would probably do for the championship - there's enough quality and cover there with a few capable of playing full back in a 4.

1Wildsmith. 7

35Nelson. 8

5Bradley 8.5. 

6Cashin 8

2Wilson. 7

12Smith. 7.5

23Fornah 6 was too busy checking the Bolton score at this point

32Adams 8

10Waghorn 6 as fornah

17Sibley. 8 defensively sound, threat on goal and set up a few chances 

32Thommo 7

4Hourihane. 6

9Collins. 7. 

14Washington 6 Fluffed a couple of chances - that said he got on the end of them to miss

11Méndez-Laing. 7

7Barlhuizen. 6

27 minutes ago, CapeTownRams said:

To say Adams didn't cut it at Cardiff is a bit harsh seeing as he only managed 11 games and was out for a year with some debilitating injuries.

I have no doubt the player we have seen this season could cut it in the Champo- even with a top half team.

I agree - but I did have a glance at their forum and most of their fans were of the opinion he's doing well for us because that's his level.    I hope that's the general feeling around that club as it can't  harm our chances of signing him. 

Think he only has a year left on his contract too so they'll have to decide whether to listen to offers, let his contract run down  or extend based on what he's done at another club at a lower level. 

16 hours ago, Crewton said:

Sorry about the link to a crappy Reach website, but this article covers it. IIRC Clowes gave the same reasons shortly after the decision was made, either to RD or at the first fans forum.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/a-bridge-far-derby-county-8567066?int_source=amp_continue_reading&int_medium=amp&int_campaign=continue_reading_button#amp-readmore-target

Ok yeah sorry I did know that - I assumed you were hinting that there were some other rumoured reasons - my mistake. 

13 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said:

I think we need to see where we are at the end of the season and then take stock. I think if we don’t go up Warne will resign. If we do, I think he will be given until Christmas to see what he can do. In the meantime let’s get behind the team and try and help get them over the line 😊

I agree now isn't the time to discuss the future of the manager.   Not for me anyway. 

If we go up I think you have to give him a go in the Championship and I'm sure we will- if we don't I think there's a debate to be had but I'd fully expect Clowes to keep him and I don't see him walking.    Yes he's had some criticism but that's pretty much just modern football.  He will know this is the biggest club he's getting to manage next season.

6 hours ago, Crewton said:

McGoldrick was only missing for the first two games. He was available for all the rest. But so what? Warne lost Bird for the whole of the key month of February when results started to falter and was working with Rosenior's squad. But you should know very well that Clowes took the decision not to appoint Rosenior for reasons beyond mere results. The continual harping back to Rosenior by some posters is tedious for that very reason and no-one knows how the season would have gone with him in charge.

I swear I've never come across a situation before where an element in a clubs fanbase has moaned so much about a manager with their team in 2nd place. I'm sure some of our fans have totally lost the plot.

I'm not harping back to him - I'm responding to someone else that harped back to him to criticise him.  Nor was I moaning about Warne - just correcting an attempt to rewrite history. 

No Didzy wasn't available after 2 games - he made a few cameos off the bench - when was he available to start ?*

What were these reasons Clowes didn't keep Rosenior ? 

* I make it he started 2 league games for Rosenior - so not really enough time to be up to speed.  

1 hour ago, Key clubber said:

What I find extraordinary is you can’t see that the pass was one you’d expect on a parks pitch on a Sunday morning. 
I’m no Einstein but I’m going to take a wild guess and say a ball to feet is easier to score from than one sent in knee height. 
I didn’t realise being a pro footballer also entitles you to score every chance you get. 
Did some forget to tell Derby this ?

I don't think you can blame the pass.  Yes there was an opportunity to pass it along the floor rather than take an extra touch but it was a harder pass to make and the keeper was less out of their goal and would have been able to cover some of it.  It's not like he could have put CBT in exactly the same position but with the ball rolling nicely.

The more I watch it the easier it looks to finish - just needs cushioning into the net I'd fancy myself to score it more often than not. 

51 minutes ago, Crewton said:

Getting battered at Lincoln, to be brutal, by which point we hadn't scored a single goal away from home in the League.

Had us 7th and had hardly had Didzy fit.  Warne did have him fit and kept us in 7th.   

Won 7 drawn 2 lost 3 in all competitions.

10 hours ago, kevinhectoring said:

I assume you mean ‘problem for Warne’? The idea the dressing room votes for captain is comical. The manager should be in charge. It’s been a costly cop out and hopefully it does not cost us promotion. 

 

Agree it was a bad idea but let's not forget the likely alternative was Sonny Bradley.  

1 hour ago, Dimmu said:

I enjoyed the game.

Perfect footballing weather, two good teams giving their all with a short Leicester cameo (even though ill-timed ). Such goals and (mostly their) misses that both sets of fans can speculate about the result. 

I loved the tactical nuances, especially the second half which some didn't enjoy. Wonderstrike ruined an otherwise awesome show of how to control the game without a ball. 

I raise my hat to two things especially: 
Firstly Pompey, they are worthy champions and they played like one. See you next season!

Secondly, Collins. The footballing world is full of neymars, yet it desperately needs more collos. After such an injury to be able to play already is incredible, but to play a dropping nine with such a work rate... Incredible times 10. 

 

After such an injury?   I mean I'm glad he's back but it's just a routine return from injury isnt it.   He works hard and has a decent engine so I'd have expected him to give a good shift for 70 minutes.

I didn't think NML was too bad last night and 100% I wouldn't be resting him.   

That said he is more effective wide and for me if it was thought he wasn't doing it centrally he'd be in the team over CBT, Ward. Barkhuizen, Wilson or any of the other wide options.   Yes that bunch have been good at times but NML has been better more consistently. 

14 minutes ago, Ken Tram said:

Quite a few people are frustrated that we seemed to play too defensively in the second half.

But, when I asked the other day if we want Bolton to beat Pompey, to increase our chances of winning the league - or Pompey to beat Bolton, to increase our chances of finishing second - everyone seemed to want Pompey to beat Bolton.

Therefore, as fans, we are taking a defensive position - but at the same time, lots seem to be criticising Warne for taking a defensive position.

I don't think that follows - it just means we care a lot about going up and not much about winning the division.  

Re the tactics - I think they worked reasonably well but we'll never know how we'd have done had we adopted a more attacking strategy.     

Watched on TV

1Wildsmith.  5. Thought their second was saveable

2Wilson.  6 Probably should have conceded a pen but otherwise ok

35Nelson.   6.5 Good but megged for their first

6Cashin.  7

17Sibley.  7. Shares some blame for first but up against their main threat

23Ward.  8. 

16Thompson.  5.5 Got to be honest don't think he's bringing much other than energy

12Smith.   7

4Hourihane.  6

32Adams.   8

27Blackett-Taylor.  7. 

14Washington. 5

11Méndez-Laing.  6.5

9Collins. 6

10Waghorn. 6

1Wildsmith. 7

2Wilson. 7.5

35Nelson 8

6Cashin 8

17Sibley 7

23Ward. 6

10Waghorn. 6

32Adams. 8

12Smith. 7

4Hourihane. 6

27Blackett-Taylor. 6

16Thompson. 6

11Méndez-Laing. 7

22Fornah. 6

14Washington. 5.5

9Collins. 7

It's 50:50 for me.   I'm not confident we'll get more than 10 points from the last 6 but that may be enough.   A win on Friday would certainly make things look better.   

Chances are he's going to be here next season so we'll have to hope he comes good.   

Not gonna comment on today's game, largely because I spent the afternoon on a long walk round Barton Under Needwood (did listen on Talksport2). 

 However we know we are inconsistent so this wasn't totally unexpected and it doesn't mean we are going to be awful on Friday.   We've  lack fluidity all season but we are resilient at the back and can often nick a goal or two - it's just that when  we don't there's no "well at least we played well" to fall back on. 

May as well stay behind them for now and have tke inquest at the end of the season.

They play a nice passing style?  Free hit for them ?  It all adds up to just the sort of team we do well against .  

Northampton 1  4 Derby

Nelson header for the first

3 hours ago, rammieib said:

CBT was always a winger.

Wingbacks doens't suit his game.

If he's played as an inside forward type position, it'll be interesting if he has any impact.

 

Fair comment though the formation doesn't have to be symmetrical.   Sibley or Wilson as a wing back could come inside more leaving CBT wider.  We've seen managers rip up the rule book - not that long ago inverted wingers were considered new, now we've had Wilder's overlapping CBs, Stones playing as a 10, Trent playing as a 6 etc.    Warne and Barker might devise something to get CBT in his best position and keep his back 3/5 system. 

Edit - i dont mean CBT as a wing back - I mean he plays ahead of a wing back who moves inside more leaving the space wide for CBT.   Sibs and Wilson both have that ability to pass and move and keep possession to do that.

Sorry no idea how to clear that. 

Re using data it'll be universal now amongst clubs our size at least as much as looking for players with certain characteristics .    We really need to find our own angle where we can be ahead of most of the competition.  Brentford did it by scrapping the academy and using the money to invest in potential for their B team.  I'd say we might want to look at a longer term route with the academy which then begs the question how do we make our academy more productive than most others.   If we want to recruit and retain the best young players we need to sell them a reason to choose us over higher profile clubs.   The most obvious one is to point to a load of successful academy graduates which is why it's essential we continue to bring players through - the manager has to buy into that even if at times an older experienced player would be safer in the here and now.   

After that stuff like making sure we offer better  outcomes for those that don't make it to reassure parents, that the academy players love being here so want to stay etc is vital. 

17 hours ago, Chesterfield_Ram said:

 

Not convinced the supposed "psychological advantage" of being 7 points ahead would be real - our rivals are going to go into their games looking to win irrespective.   If anything it might lead to us taking our foot off the gas thinking it's job done - teams with huge leads  usually come back to the pack a bit.   

Im going to be different with a back 4 Smith at RB and Fozzy LB.

Adams Hourihane central with Sibley. 

NML and Wilson wide but CBT to come on at some point and Washington up front if he's fit. 

 Sibs and one of Adams/Hourihane have freedom to break forward. 

To be honest we've played so many different line ups this season and they've all looked good at times poor at others I'm not strongly wedded to any.   

16 hours ago, Sheff Ram said:

Remember Derby fans moaning about the last window's transfers saying how poor it was. To be honest Dwight and Ebou now look like very good business.

Gayle didn't come in the window though - anyone moaning that we needed a striker was proved right.