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Their fans seem to think he's talented, quite fast, injury prone and doesn't work hard enough.   On the whole they'd have liked to keep him though. 

It's becoming harder to compete if you aren't full time pro in the Championship (not sure how many are) and Newcastle were full time pro in National North this season. 

1 hour ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

How many levels below the wsl are the Ewes?

Not that it's any less loaded than the men's. Lowly Bristol city tonked 8-0 by Chelsea. Man City, arsenal and Chelsea slugging it out for the title with man utd, villa and Spurs just behind.....🙄

It goes WSL, Championship then National League North and South (we are North).

Then National League regional (local one is Midlands)

Then Regional Leagues so locally

East Mids Prem

East Mids North, South, Central

Then County so Derbyshire has Div 1 and Div 2.   Womens football is 99% in the pyramid 

Are we allowed to charge what we like in the Champ? Wasn't there some rule last season about only charging what we charge our own fans for an equivalent seat ?

On 05/05/2024 at 07:07, G STAR RAM said:

Never seen him play in Spain so can't comment, plus I imagine the game in Spain is quite different to The Championship. 

Nick Blackman was good at Reading, doesn't change the fact he was awful he!

Spoke to a former Reading coach once and apparently the consensus there when our bid came in that  Derby were mad.   In his words a very poor footballer who could run, they used to kick it in behind out wide so the keeper couldn't collect and tell him to try and win a throw to get them up the pitch.    Even allowing for a bit of poetic licence on his part it does illustrate how poor our recruitment could be then given we were more of a footballing side. 

1 hour ago, Tamworthram said:

Some people keep banging on about our restrictions being self imposed which, of course, they were but do you not think the club had some kind of steer from the EFL or at the very least had an idea of what might be acceptable? I don’t think the club were completely free to set whatever level of restrictions they wanted knowing they’d be approved regardless.

I suspect the money David Clowes was willing to spend was within the limits the EFL were willing to let us spend.   None of us actually know and if he goes in a Mel Morris style spending  spree this Summer I guess I'm wrong.  

It's a fair assumption our playing budget in terms of wages was the highest in tne division.   Every estimate you see has us top.     

2 hours ago, Crewton said:

Sez a poster called "Trappatoni" 🤔😉

Oi I've been using it on dcfc forums since he was a current manager !

I just think the club should look forwards.   You'd have to be retired to really remember the Clough era properly.   If old blokes in the pub want to reminisce fine but it just seems a negative way to brand the club. 

Ah I hadn't heard prices were going up further.   That does take the piss a bit especially in parts of the ground that had higher % rises.  Was thinking of going to buy a second ticket for family but this will probably stop that.  

Hold on, pricing structure ?   Haven't we just had a big price rise - 20% in my case.   

It'll be interesting to see what our strategy is.   Will we look longer term and spend money on young prospects who may then generate a profit or will we look to established players on frees again who are likely to command higher wages and have little sell on but will mean less initial outlay while we wait for our academy to start producing.  

I really wouldn't want stands named after ex players/managers - I just hate all that living in the past.    

I genuinely don't understand why people wouldn't give Fozzy a year based on his performances over the last 2 seasons.   Yes at his age you can't look long term  but he's versatile, played well and played quite a few games.    

12 minutes ago, Sidd10 said:

A think a few things to think about here. 

1. I’d take those estimates there with a pinch of salt. That estimate puts Blackburn players on less than £6k a week on average. (25 players) Not having it. 

2. Our wage bill has been widely reported but that figure, someone correct me if I’m wrong, is the entire clubs wage bill. Not just playing staff. There is no way our average players wage is £13.5k a week. 

 

It can't be can it if the reports that the efl put a 12k a week limit on us were correct.   If I remember correctly last season Hourihane was reportedly on that as top earner. 

Curtis Nelson 8.  Very solid performer - if he was a young find  he'd be higher but we signed him in his prime so that limits sell on potential. 

Callum Elder.    4.  Never really got going - maybe a bit unlucky but probably behind Sibley and Fozzy for me

Joe Ward.  4.    Crosses a good ball and a great first touch  but another that's never really got going.  Not convinced he can defend but time may tell

Sonny Bradley. 4.   For the wages he's on and his age what he's provided has been the bare minimum.    Probably will score higher than 4 for most based on recent form .

Josh Vickers. 5. Looked competent when needed

Kane Wilson.     7.  Right age, very skillful, bit of pace. Just a question mark over end product.   

Martyn Waghorn.     3.5.   Made a difference when needed early on.   Unlucky with injury

Conor Washington.  3  Unlucky with injury - not really looked the part - presume he is on good money 

Tyrese Fornah.  5.    Think he deserved more of a chance - however can only rate him 5 based on his contribution.   Still think he can be an Ebou Adams

Elliot Embleton. 1.  Waste of money

Ryan Nyambe.    7.   Easy to forget how good he looked before he got injured.   One that can certainly play in the Championship

Tyreece John-Jules.  3.   Huge risk that didn't pay off.   

Winter:

Ebou Adams.  9. 

Dwight Gayle.  6.   Ok got injured but if we hadn't signed him we might be looking at play offs 

Corey Blackett-Taylor.   5.  I assume he has potential based on his stats and a couple of cameos.    Was supposed to be the difference maker - we don't know why he got so little game time 

Max Bird*.    7.   

*I've included Max, as I feel it was crucial we had him to the end of the season.

Extensions:

Nathaniel Mendez-Laing.   8. 

Eiran Cashin.  9.  Now we've gone up if we do sell it wont be for peanuts - or we have a good Championship kevel player

Jake Rooney  7.  

I wouldn't be offering 4 year contracts full stop.   Derby in L1 it would be hard not to be in or around the play offs so that wasn't such a risk but in thve championship it's not ridiculous to suggest we might be in a relegation fight next season and you really don't want changing manager to be unaffordable.

The only way Warne gets poached is if he isn't happy at Derby and takes a sideways or downwards step - if he did feel that way then it would probably be best  for him and us to part ways anyway.

Enjoyed it well enough but I'd like us to be back in the Prem - unlike others it seems I do watch Premier League on TV and maybe it's an age thing but but when people say the Championship is back where we belong I always wince. 

1 minute ago, samtheram83 said:

In a back three? Cash, nelson, nyambe? Honest question.

Yes if I had to pick a back 3 for the Championship right now it'd be them - you could argue Bradley is the man in possession and has played as a CB more than Nyambe and those would be fair  points but Nyambe looked very strong defensively and comfortable on the ball.   

Plays over Bradley imo 

24 minutes ago, TheTinMan said:

I might be in the minority but I wouldn't be bothered if Wildsmith left. He's an okay keeper, probably better than Vickers but in the grand scheme of things most keepers are a much of a muchness at this level and there will be plenty available similar to Wildsmith. If you go back through the keepers we've had since Roos took over from Carson, none of them will live long in my memory. 

I've got a feeling the defence either don't rate him or don't really gel with him.  It's just at times I've seen Cash, Nelson, Wilson at least really tear into him for quite minor errors - I know it's pro football and doesn't have to be nicey nicey but at times I've just wondered what Wildsmith must think.   I might be wrong and if i am fair enough but there's been a few occasions have made me wonder.  

1 hour ago, Inverurie Ram said:

🖤 🏆 🐏 Love Paul Warne 🐏 🏆 🖤

🖤 🏆 🐏 &  David Clowes  🐏 🏆 🖤

  🐏 🏆 ⚪️ ⚫️ 🔵 ⚫️ 🟢 ⚫️  🏆🐏

Fact is up until a certain point this season - possibly Stevenage away but I've not checked  -  we were under performing and if we'd finished 6th or 7th I suspect Warne would have been on his way.   

Yes those that argued he would pull it round have been proved right but most pro Warne fans weren't saying we were still in the hunt for automatic they were making excuses about budget, sanctions, time etc etc.   They have been proved wrong too.

Think the defence is good enough as it is.  I must be watching a different team to some of you as Sibley has been as good as Wilson on the other side and better than Elder - no way should we be spending the budget replacing him when without doubt he'd sign a new contract. 

Centre mid it's not rocket science we need Adams or similar and a replacement for Bird in his attacking role.   

We need  at least one striker.  Collins has had a better season but  an option with more pace.  Not ruling out keeping Gayle - if we look at league 1 this year two of the best returns have come from Rhodes and Chris Martin so veteran forwards can work but ideally someone a bit younger.

Thought the club handled it well.  Obviously there are mixed opinions about pitch invasions - personally I'm all for them - it's a chance for fans to really feel part of the club not just customers.   It was good to see all the younger fans ready to run on.  Everyone seemed to enjoy it - even the stewards - if people don't want to run on surely the spectacle beats  a lap of honour?

Job done, on to next season.  I don't envisage the style of play changing much - managers tend to have a philosophy - but agree the style might suit not being favourites most games.  In the main though it'll be about playing this style more effectively.  

7 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

I'm not madly in love with the idea myself, but I have a notion that's exactly the kind of striker Paul warne will be trying to find.

Not sure that's his ideal.   He's on record as saying he likes pace up top - but he likes pressing players too.   I reckon his ideal would be a Jamie Vardy type - a threat in behind but with an engine too.   I don't deny that a Collins type is more likely what he'll settle for though.