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It'll be interesting to see what our strategy is.   Will we look longer term and spend money on young prospects who may then generate a profit or will we look to established players on frees again who are likely to command higher wages and have little sell on but will mean less initial outlay while we wait for our academy to start producing.  

I really wouldn't want stands named after ex players/managers - I just hate all that living in the past.    

I genuinely don't understand why people wouldn't give Fozzy a year based on his performances over the last 2 seasons.   Yes at his age you can't look long term  but he's versatile, played well and played quite a few games.    

12 minutes ago, Sidd10 said:

A think a few things to think about here. 

1. I’d take those estimates there with a pinch of salt. That estimate puts Blackburn players on less than £6k a week on average. (25 players) Not having it. 

2. Our wage bill has been widely reported but that figure, someone correct me if I’m wrong, is the entire clubs wage bill. Not just playing staff. There is no way our average players wage is £13.5k a week. 

 

It can't be can it if the reports that the efl put a 12k a week limit on us were correct.   If I remember correctly last season Hourihane was reportedly on that as top earner. 

Curtis Nelson 8.  Very solid performer - if he was a young find  he'd be higher but we signed him in his prime so that limits sell on potential. 

Callum Elder.    4.  Never really got going - maybe a bit unlucky but probably behind Sibley and Fozzy for me

Joe Ward.  4.    Crosses a good ball and a great first touch  but another that's never really got going.  Not convinced he can defend but time may tell

Sonny Bradley. 4.   For the wages he's on and his age what he's provided has been the bare minimum.    Probably will score higher than 4 for most based on recent form .

Josh Vickers. 5. Looked competent when needed

Kane Wilson.     7.  Right age, very skillful, bit of pace. Just a question mark over end product.   

Martyn Waghorn.     3.5.   Made a difference when needed early on.   Unlucky with injury

Conor Washington.  3  Unlucky with injury - not really looked the part - presume he is on good money 

Tyrese Fornah.  5.    Think he deserved more of a chance - however can only rate him 5 based on his contribution.   Still think he can be an Ebou Adams

Elliot Embleton. 1.  Waste of money

Ryan Nyambe.    7.   Easy to forget how good he looked before he got injured.   One that can certainly play in the Championship

Tyreece John-Jules.  3.   Huge risk that didn't pay off.   

Winter:

Ebou Adams.  9. 

Dwight Gayle.  6.   Ok got injured but if we hadn't signed him we might be looking at play offs 

Corey Blackett-Taylor.   5.  I assume he has potential based on his stats and a couple of cameos.    Was supposed to be the difference maker - we don't know why he got so little game time 

Max Bird*.    7.   

*I've included Max, as I feel it was crucial we had him to the end of the season.

Extensions:

Nathaniel Mendez-Laing.   8. 

Eiran Cashin.  9.  Now we've gone up if we do sell it wont be for peanuts - or we have a good Championship kevel player

Jake Rooney  7.  

I wouldn't be offering 4 year contracts full stop.   Derby in L1 it would be hard not to be in or around the play offs so that wasn't such a risk but in thve championship it's not ridiculous to suggest we might be in a relegation fight next season and you really don't want changing manager to be unaffordable.

The only way Warne gets poached is if he isn't happy at Derby and takes a sideways or downwards step - if he did feel that way then it would probably be best  for him and us to part ways anyway.

Enjoyed it well enough but I'd like us to be back in the Prem - unlike others it seems I do watch Premier League on TV and maybe it's an age thing but but when people say the Championship is back where we belong I always wince. 

1 minute ago, samtheram83 said:

In a back three? Cash, nelson, nyambe? Honest question.

Yes if I had to pick a back 3 for the Championship right now it'd be them - you could argue Bradley is the man in possession and has played as a CB more than Nyambe and those would be fair  points but Nyambe looked very strong defensively and comfortable on the ball.   

Plays over Bradley imo 

24 minutes ago, TheTinMan said:

I might be in the minority but I wouldn't be bothered if Wildsmith left. He's an okay keeper, probably better than Vickers but in the grand scheme of things most keepers are a much of a muchness at this level and there will be plenty available similar to Wildsmith. If you go back through the keepers we've had since Roos took over from Carson, none of them will live long in my memory. 

I've got a feeling the defence either don't rate him or don't really gel with him.  It's just at times I've seen Cash, Nelson, Wilson at least really tear into him for quite minor errors - I know it's pro football and doesn't have to be nicey nicey but at times I've just wondered what Wildsmith must think.   I might be wrong and if i am fair enough but there's been a few occasions have made me wonder.  

1 hour ago, Inverurie Ram said:

🖤 🏆 🐏 Love Paul Warne 🐏 🏆 🖤

🖤 🏆 🐏 &  David Clowes  🐏 🏆 🖤

  🐏 🏆 ⚪️ ⚫️ 🔵 ⚫️ 🟢 ⚫️  🏆🐏

Fact is up until a certain point this season - possibly Stevenage away but I've not checked  -  we were under performing and if we'd finished 6th or 7th I suspect Warne would have been on his way.   

Yes those that argued he would pull it round have been proved right but most pro Warne fans weren't saying we were still in the hunt for automatic they were making excuses about budget, sanctions, time etc etc.   They have been proved wrong too.

Think the defence is good enough as it is.  I must be watching a different team to some of you as Sibley has been as good as Wilson on the other side and better than Elder - no way should we be spending the budget replacing him when without doubt he'd sign a new contract. 

Centre mid it's not rocket science we need Adams or similar and a replacement for Bird in his attacking role.   

We need  at least one striker.  Collins has had a better season but  an option with more pace.  Not ruling out keeping Gayle - if we look at league 1 this year two of the best returns have come from Rhodes and Chris Martin so veteran forwards can work but ideally someone a bit younger.

Thought the club handled it well.  Obviously there are mixed opinions about pitch invasions - personally I'm all for them - it's a chance for fans to really feel part of the club not just customers.   It was good to see all the younger fans ready to run on.  Everyone seemed to enjoy it - even the stewards - if people don't want to run on surely the spectacle beats  a lap of honour?

Job done, on to next season.  I don't envisage the style of play changing much - managers tend to have a philosophy - but agree the style might suit not being favourites most games.  In the main though it'll be about playing this style more effectively.  

7 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

I'm not madly in love with the idea myself, but I have a notion that's exactly the kind of striker Paul warne will be trying to find.

Not sure that's his ideal.   He's on record as saying he likes pace up top - but he likes pressing players too.   I reckon his ideal would be a Jamie Vardy type - a threat in behind but with an engine too.   I don't deny that a Collins type is more likely what he'll settle for though.

On 25/04/2024 at 16:04, Anag Ram said:

If fans can’t get up for this game without a beer it’s a sad state of affairs.

Save the drinking for after the game.

I’ll have Smithers chilling the Chateau Lafite! 😊

Does it have to be to get up for the game?  The main reason I go is to meet old mates I've known 40 years, have a drink with them and then we go to the game.  

I've parked at Chad Park before - the little car park -  when I was pushed for time coming from that side - walked through the park, cross Nottm Rd and down that street to the bridge over the A52.  

Not really nervous, these days I enjoy the wins and forget about the defeats, no point in letting football spoil your weekend - though failure tomorrow might test that!  When I was younger I'd have been more hyped up.

Getting up early to take the dogs out for 90 minutes then getting picked up at 10 to go to the pub before the game. 

2 hours ago, Rich3478 said:

Not sure if anyone mentioned this but watched leverkusen last week, was amazing scenes in the ground. Never occurred to me that the people on the pitch were ruining it for the kids.

Yes the kids would probably love to run on the pitch.   

The players come over to the crowd every single game - the idea that somehow fans being on the pitch for 5 minutes would prevent them coming back out is just miserable b'stards who have nothing better to moan about.  Time was fans went on the pitch last game of every season - it did no harm. 

5 hours ago, sunnyhill60 said:

You give your game away, its just self-indulgent nonsense. As a supporter since since 1960 and having seen the best and worst of times  I have never felt the need or desire to go on the pitch. As has been said, allowing the players a lap of honour allows all fans to show their appreciation

It's a celebration - the players come over to the fans literally every game.   Fans are treated as an inconvenience by football far too much these days.   If you don't want to go on the pitch fine but it's sad if you can't enjoy other people celebrating. 

If we go up on the last game I'm on the pitch - I don't believe it's beyond the army of stewards they employ all year for no apparent reason to usher the players off safely - not that I think that would be needed. 

On 13/04/2024 at 09:02, CBRammette said:

They dont give a 💩about fans who actually go to games and want to support club with a season ticket.  If you work normal full-time working week and travel couple of hours to games any mon- fri evening matches are challenging not just trying to switch hours but extra traffic, higher train fares etc. Same for those on shift patterns sorted in advance of sky cut-off to rearrange matches when they cant change shifts later.
Still undecided re renewing next year entirely due to this deal nothing else. Its a lot of money if you just cant go to a lot of matches

Yeah I am renewing but the lads I go with travel a fair distance and as a result often miss non Saturday games as they can't make it after work.   After a season of this I could see them questioning whether it's worth renewing again - and if they didn't I doubt I'd want to go on my own.   

My son is similar in that he works shifts so if it's not a 3pm saturday ko he often misses out - if he's missing 50% of the games why buy a season ticket? 

Thinking about it i could just share a ticket with him and go when he can't.   I don't want to pay match by match as prices are silly 

I think we'll score a couple and it's just down to whether we can defend.

I'll go Camb 0-2 Derby

Collins and Washington late on

I don't think he's been slagged off that much but he's been a disappointment given he came from the Championship.   In a back 3 he'd be 5th choice if Fozzy and Nyambe were fit - even on Saturday he didn't look as assured as Nelson and Cashin but he scored two goals and if he did that every week he'd get a free pass for his defensive lapses. 

2 hours ago, Archied said:

Do we think warne has been the best manager for sibley so far? 
certainly worked him into being very important player for us and for me he was motm for me Saturday 

I'll wait and see - not sure how highly Warne rates him - that question will be answered in the Summer.