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99% of our forum experts had written off CKR before he kicked a ball ?

Yep, myself included. So I'm trying to be more positive about the potential. #COYR

99% of our forum experts had written off CKR before he kicked a ball ?

99% of our forum experts had written off CKR before he kicked a ball ?

Close the thread, it’s not happening. People blind panicking for no reason 

That Will Hughes bloke is somewhat neat and tidy but produces very little in terms of goals and assists.
Bet you'd take him on a free though? I'd reckon you'd probably be happy paying £2m-£3m if not more for him if we had the cash?
Morrison's ability/ceiling is probably still higher than Will's.. and that's not knocking Will in any way, shape or form.

I’m not sure where this lack of creativity idea comes from in the games so far…
I agree there’s a lack of goals….Neither CKR or Baldock have been prolific at any time in their careers so to suddenly expect in their twilight years is unrealistic and unfair. They offer what they offer and others will need to chip in with their fair share. 
Yesterday was what it was. A pretty season against a very difficult opponent who were very much more focused on a scalp and a result than you’d expect in a pre season game….which is good for us and why higher leagues clubs play lower league clubs pre season!
It showed how difficult league 2 can be and I know it was scoffed at when I compared it to being almost a different sport but they are. No time on the ball. Big physical uncompromising men. Direct football aiming at getting the ball into the box from far different areas than what we’d be used to dealing with. They had a 5 man press when we tried to play out and they had big lumps waiting to head it when we had to play over that rather than round it or through it. It was exactly what you need to face pre season when up until now it had consisted of training games, shape work, largely unopposed situations and a game against a like minded and mirror image Man U.
Im not too upset by it. We created lots of chances. 1st half Aluku should have had 2 both coming from good football. Morrison could’ve done better with his header. Carrol was unlucky with a curling effort. 
Second half Bird found Hutchinson (twice) and Sibley (ultimately for the goal) in identical positions as 10s on the half turn, from line breaking passes and all three times resulted in low crosses into the box from overlapping full backs, that could’ve been goal chances…even for the goal, forget it was an own goal…Hutchinson and Esobele were close and one of them would’ve scored even if the ball had been slightly misplaced (nos in the box). Add to that, McDonald played a lovely ball down the sides for Baldock who could’ve scored or I think he may have tried to play across goal where we had a player at the far post for a tap in….again midfield players in the box…then we have the gaping open goal from Baldock following more good interplay and movement around the box.
Realistically they only looked like scoring twice and the pen was soft at best, whereas we could’ve easily scored 5/6 or even 7. Had we come away with a 4-1 win we’d all be jumping up and down about how we could be ok…..let alone if we’d scored more!!!
Im not stupid, clearly we need players and clearly the end result was a loss and championship games will be a different kettle of fish but I feel we’re getting carried away and that’s not good whether it be over positive or over negative. 
Finally I think Aluko is a wasted registration. He doesn’t offer anymore than some of the youngsters we have who can play that role (Esobele / Sibley / Hutchinson - maybe in that order). Carroll offers much the same as Bird. Bird is ours and come through our academy why bin him off for a 1 season pay day like Carroll? I’d see Watson as this type too so I’d happily have him as Birds back up as opposed to Bird being Carrolls back up?
Personally I’d push for 3 of the 4 signings to be centre backs to build an experienced base from. The top end of the pitch and the top end of the midfield areas don’t concern me too much.

Relax. It’s a non-starter and a PR campaign from Forest. Focus your negativity on the other problems…….

There's a lot here that doesn't add up;
Percy tweeted on Weds we were set to offer contracts to Davies, Wisdom & Morrison
Rooney is playing a number of trialists 2 weeks out from the opening game with seemingly no certainty they can play in League games
Tom Carroll is training here whilst apparently having a contract offer on the table from QPR
Like the tweet Alan Nixon has just put out suggests, think there's a bit of politics going on & probably some media pressure being applied by Rooney, knowing the fans will direct heat at Mel & Pearce. My wild guess is that the takeover is close (some suggestion on twitter this might be the 'other reason' for not being to sign players) but wonder if some dispute over price/debts to resolve.

I’m praying we don’t give Wisdom a contract. Would rather have Stearman

Marshall 
Byrne   Davies Jagielka Buchanan   
                    Shinnie 
             Morrison. Sibley 
Jozwiak.     Richards.   Lawrence 
as things stand with knight out for 3 months I think that’s about as good as we are and competitive if not rather sensitive - sure the three out of contracts need to sign up but we are where we are. ( we need a goal scorer desperately) 

We can’t afford to sack him. He’s here as long as he chooses until his contract expires ??‍♂️

We can’t afford to sack him. He’s here as long as he chooses until his contract expires ??‍♂️

Why does Wisdom feel it’s necessary to instantly slow it down as soon as he receives the ball on the first half showing I thought Stearman and Jagielka both looked assured in the air and on the ground 

I just miss being excited about a Derby team 

We can’t afford to sack him. He’s here as long as he chooses until his contract expires ??‍♂️

Fond memories of Barrow 0-0!

I’m praying we don’t give Wisdom a contract. Would rather have Stearman

I’m praying we don’t give Wisdom a contract. Would rather have Stearman

Wayne said we are trying a new style. Is it a tweak on walking football?

Whoever said we look like the team from the last 15 games last season was spot on. 

Nicho update on Davies and Roos

Thanks Steve

The odds for our promotion are skewed by a possible points deduction and a load of bad press. Fact is we’ve escaped being bought by Alonso, we’ve had a fabulous result from the efl (so far) and our youngsters (sibley, bird, Watson, Buchanan etc) are a year older. Plus we’ll land some good old heads. That combination of experience and youth can be powerful. We’re on the way up 

You make some valid points but the fact we are having a complete pre-season with a solid unit of players (knowing Davies and Wisdom are staying to reduce the CB fear) means I honestly think we are stronger. I called a terrible season out last year after the awful pre-season and whilst I obviously didn’t expect the full circus sideshow as we experienced, we are now more realistically set for mid table than last.
 
p.s Joswiak will thrive with a crowd

You make some valid points but the fact we are having a complete pre-season with a solid unit of players (knowing Davies and Wisdom are staying to reduce the CB fear) means I honestly think we are stronger. I called a terrible season out last year after the awful pre-season and whilst I obviously didn’t expect the full circus sideshow as we experienced, we are now more realistically set for mid table than last.
 
p.s Joswiak will thrive with a crowd