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It won’t go to Court Roy, not in a Morris v Gibson sense. Gibson will stick to a ‘membership rules’ argument, and piously state this is all about upholding the legitimacy of a league of 72 clubs who have agreed how member club disputes must be arbitrated. I sense Morris too would do some kind of ‘behind NDA deal’ the day before a hearing should Gibson actually call his bluff (not that he will).
His letter yesterday I don’t think was much more than a bit of “theatre’ but as you say it contained some interesting facts that it was good to get into the open and the timing was spot on. The tweet from Amanda Solloway saying the EFL reneged on letting Q go to Court over whether the claim was a football debt was also good to know.  Pressure is being turned up on the EFL and Gibson, and increasingly they are finding they are losing a PR war. Quantuma I would say now need to continue to tool up for their own next action, but in my opinion should say nothing more at this stage. Let EFL and Gibson make the next pronouncements.

Loads of posturing from both sides, it’s a ‘my willy is bigger than your willy’ thing. Most important message I take from this (which should reassure us all) is that there are players in this debacle that have the gift to save us from liquidation and this latest development indicates to me that they will not let this happen despite all the negative noise. 

I know, I know, I’m almost 6ft myself but I followed my dads advice and chose to marry a lady with small hands!!!

I almost hate to ask, but I simply have to know... Please tell me it was the table that broke in half!  ?    

As long as it’s still bigger than Gibbons that’s all that matters !! ?

Simples, as has been said before he just pledges to underwrite any new owners liability therefore relieving them of the liability. He just doesn’t want to offer this at this stage as he wants to call out the Boro’ & WW claims out for what they are. 

It does (hopefully) solve things as either they take up his offer or he underwrites the costs for the new owners, so either way any interested parties should now be able to make their move and a PB be named

Loads of posturing from both sides, it’s a ‘my willy is bigger than your willy’ thing. Most important message I take from this (which should reassure us all) is that there are players in this debacle that have the gift to save us from liquidation and this latest development indicates to me that they will not let this happen despite all the negative noise. 

Simples, as has been said before he just pledges to underwrite any new owners liability therefore relieving them of the liability. He just doesn’t want to offer this at this stage as he wants to call out the Boro’ & WW claims out for what they are. 

Loads of posturing from both sides, it’s a ‘my willy is bigger than your willy’ thing. Most important message I take from this (which should reassure us all) is that there are players in this debacle that have the gift to save us from liquidation and this latest development indicates to me that they will not let this happen despite all the negative noise. 

I'm no expert... but having just read that in full... I just wee'd a little!
BEST.  OPEN.  LETTER.  EVER!
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Welcome back, you big, beautiful, bald, badass, dark-choc Bounty loving b45t4rd you!     ?

This saga is so infuriating, absolute shambles. A football debt is like any other debt surely? Non payment of an amount owed for services provided, whether that be £3.50 for a pint, £200k for a house or £8m outstanding for Beilik. You enter into a contract whether written or verbal for goods or services provided I.e. a legitimate debt if not paid. The amount owed is clearly defined. If one party is claiming they might have made X if Y had / had not happened then it’s a claim for “projected loss of damages” no? So, how the hell does a claim for damages or compensation become defined as a debt?
 
Surely it has to be agreed by both parties that services or goods have been provided without payment? And the value had to have been agreed upon. A debt is transactional. No transaction has taken place. A claim. For loss of earnings has been made essentially. But not a cut and dry loss of earnings in the sense of “I’m going to make £2k this week but I didn’t because I was in a car accident  that was someone else's fault and if they hadn’t hit me I was guaranteed to make £2k”But, in the sense of, “if I wasn’t in a car accident, I might have made £2k, or I might have made £4m or I might have not made anything.” 
 
This whole thing is an absolute farce. The governing body that sets the rules by which we operate has set the penalty as minus 9 points plus 12 for entering administration. So by the logic of allowing the claims by Middlesborough and Wycombe they’re essentially saying, anyone affected by our actions can make a claim for compensation against us regardless of that fact that they as the governing body, have already decided on the offence and set the punishment.
Meanwhile, instead of standing up and leading and helping to find a pragmatic solution or trying to mediate, they pass the buck back to all the parties in disagreement and say “you sort it out”
Absolute flipping nonsense 

I agree Palace definitely aren’t a big club. Yes he’s come back to us for the remainder of the season but what’s playing for the Palace ‘stiffs’ next year going to do for his development?? Probs be loaned out again next season if he’s lucky, if he’s not he’ll more than likely go backwards. Such a shame when he could have learnt from one of the best for at least another full season. 

I agree Palace definitely aren’t a big club. Yes he’s come back to us for the remainder of the season but what’s playing for the Palace ‘stiffs’ next year going to do for his development?? Probs be loaned out again next season if he’s lucky, if he’s not he’ll more than likely go backwards. Such a shame when he could have learnt from one of the best for at least another full season. 

Hands up here , I didn’t want him , remained unconvinced last season , now for me I have the utmost respect for what he is doing under terrible circumstances and the way he has conducted himself with regards to Derby county as a club and it’s fans is just fantastic, a real football man ,,, he is everything lampard pretends to be ,
whatever happens this season Rooney is a legend for me ,someone who s hand I would love to shake 

I agree Palace definitely aren’t a big club. Yes he’s come back to us for the remainder of the season but what’s playing for the Palace ‘stiffs’ next year going to do for his development?? Probs be loaned out again next season if he’s lucky, if he’s not he’ll more than likely go backwards. Such a shame when he could have learnt from one of the best for at least another full season. 

I just hope that no one in the football world forgets the unique factor in our current situation and that is the claims of two other EFL members......never done before and will probably never be done again because of rule changes.
 
We've taken our punishment and probably the longest embargo ever, all the less visible punishments have hurt us as much as the points deductions.
Have the EFL not noticed that media coverage has lost interest in the promotion race, and is now more interested in DCFC survival fight?? DCFC is the story and the EFL once again just dont get it.
I think we will survive, but I KNOW, we won't FORGET.

Just been visiting a friend at the Derby Royal Hospital, I went past a private ward and heard a Nurse say "All will be well Christian" I stopped and looked in ? Wow, I said to the Nurse is that the footballer who scored the 2nd Derby goal yesterday.
A simple nod of her head confirmed it.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

I’m not going to make it tomorrow,  long story, mother in law died, then we got Covid ( very mild, negative now ) Mrs Jono needed to escape so right now on the Isle of Skye but Sky Go plumbed in. Big breakfast followed by walk on beach then the big game .. this is huge as are the next 2 or 3 .. if we can roll on and the results go with us we could end February out of the bottom 3. What that would say about Rooney and this team and the spirit of DCFC is immeasurable 

Good minutes. The noose is tightening on the EFL and Boro/Wycombe. It is being made abundantly clear, but respectfully, that their spurious claims are the only thing holding back movement now. All the pressure now needs to be on the EFL, from MPs, media, fans, etc. Quantuma are doing a good job, and the scum who are abusing them and threatening them online should be exposed for what they are. Get the police involved.

Well my gabber has been flasted too!!! I also assumed he had just been overlooked and consider ‘not yet ready’ …. but obviously not. In a time when football’s morals & ethics are at an absolute zero he deserves all the praise going. Perhaps Frank needs to take a page from his book. Just as Margaret B alluded too people have long memories, the Derby footballing public will never forget this and hopefully the wider footballing world will take heed too. Wayne deserves great credit for this decision and I hope it serves him well for his future in the game  …. whatever that has in store for him. One thing is for certain he’ll be welcome back into the county of Derby for the rest of his life. 

Perhaps wear a red carnation?? ??

Well my gabber has been flasted too!!! I also assumed he had just been overlooked and consider ‘not yet ready’ …. but obviously not. In a time when football’s morals & ethics are at an absolute zero he deserves all the praise going. Perhaps Frank needs to take a page from his book. Just as Margaret B alluded too people have long memories, the Derby footballing public will never forget this and hopefully the wider footballing world will take heed too. Wayne deserves great credit for this decision and I hope it serves him well for his future in the game  …. whatever that has in store for him. One thing is for certain he’ll be welcome back into the county of Derby for the rest of his life. 

Well my gabber has been flasted too!!! I also assumed he had just been overlooked and consider ‘not yet ready’ …. but obviously not. In a time when football’s morals & ethics are at an absolute zero he deserves all the praise going. Perhaps Frank needs to take a page from his book. Just as Margaret B alluded too people have long memories, the Derby footballing public will never forget this and hopefully the wider footballing world will take heed too. Wayne deserves great credit for this decision and I hope it serves him well for his future in the game  …. whatever that has in store for him. One thing is for certain he’ll be welcome back into the county of Derby for the rest of his life. 

Well my gabber has been flasted too!!! I also assumed he had just been overlooked and consider ‘not yet ready’ …. but obviously not. In a time when football’s morals & ethics are at an absolute zero he deserves all the praise going. Perhaps Frank needs to take a page from his book. Just as Margaret B alluded too people have long memories, the Derby footballing public will never forget this and hopefully the wider footballing world will take heed too. Wayne deserves great credit for this decision and I hope it serves him well for his future in the game  …. whatever that has in store for him. One thing is for certain he’ll be welcome back into the county of Derby for the rest of his life.