Bob The Badger

I'm a bit obsessed with anything on social psychology, especially cognitive biases, why we make dumb decisions and how we are influenced by outside forces, usually without knowing it.

I read Influence by Robert Cialdini a decade or more ago and saw there was an updated version.

Even though the original was brilliant I wasn't too bothered about the newer version until I heard Cialdini being interviewed and realised it had been extended and updated with a lot of new research.

Utterly brilliant. So much so, that I bought the hard copy as well as the audible version to take notes in.

If more people learned why and how we make decisions and how marketers and authority figures (like Governments for example) manipulate that process to guide people to make decisions in their favour, then the less we'd all get conned.

Most people think they make logical decisions, but if you don't know what influenced that process it's literally impossible to know that.

This book will make anybody smarter, if perhaps a tad more cynical.

I used to read a LOT of fiction, but rarely do these days and with the help of Audible get through about a book per week, so always interested in suggestions.

Finally got around to watching Manhunt from a couple of years ago with Martin Clunes.

I think the BBC kick ITVs ass when it comes to drama's but I thought this was really good.

Clunes was great, very understated and he surprised me a bit like Sean Bean did in Time, in terms of he's a much better actor than I realised.

In fact the acting was all very good, the script paced nicely (if this had been America they'd have dragged 10 episodes out of it) and a solid 7.5/10.

In fact, we decided to roll straight into season 2 that has just come out and the first one of that is good too.

I did some reading on Levi Bellfield after. Jeez what a POS he is and they now think he may have committed his forst murder when he was 13 or 14. 

3 hours ago, TigerTedd said:

Octopus are sound as a pound. I’ve read a few reports saying they’re one of the safe ones. I only wish I’d thought of sticking my recommend a friend link up here first. 

I had a mate who borrowed £6 off me once.

I knew he kept cephalopods and one was really poorly so I went to see him and help boost his morale.

When I walked in he picked the stricken fella up and thrusting it toward me said 'here's that sick squid I owe you'

1 hour ago, Grumpy Git said:

Bloody Hell, you lot are a tough gig.

They're suckers if you ask me. 

On 22/09/2021 at 08:47, cstand said:

Interesting article on this 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/theconversation.com/amp/gas-price-spike-how-uk-government-failures-made-a-global-crisis-worse-168324

 

I like The Conversation, in fact I'm not sure why I don't read it more often.

I was feeling smug that I'd got a great deal on electricity when moving into our current residence and changing in April. I thought I'd get through the winter on a hot sexy tariff.

But alas no, Symbio Energy have now gone breasts vertical and they don't even sell gas.

An unsustainable housing market, soaring fuel charges, supply chain problems and higher costs of hiring in many industries means we have inflation and a recession heading our way and it's not meandering lazily, it's driving a Tesla. 

11 minutes ago, Gaspode said:

They wasted at least an episode's worth with the Lesbian storyline - added absolutely nothing to the main story. That might have allowed them to do a better job of the last couple of episodes - though once they got halfway through and decided to suspend any sense of reality, it was pretty much doomed....

Yep, it added zero to the main plot. In fact it detracted from it and broke the tension when they started doing silly dreamy flashbacks.  

3 hours ago, Carl Sagan said:

You did better than me. I confess I stopped watching towards the end of ep3 and haven't gone back to it. I go to a lot of previews and it's a common theme that episode 1 seems great and then a show tails off. Partly the initial enthusiasm is likely the emotion of being there watching with cast, crew and writers, but it's also that I know how much work goes into writing a pilot episode, which is honed and honed and honed again to within an inch of its life to get the show away, but then after maybe years of waiting, you have to write the rest of a series super quickly. It's a bit like second album syndrome for a band, when you've had your whole life to write the first one, and then you have to do the second in three months in the middle of touring the first!

I saw a lot of people with doubts about Vigil as it went along and I'm sorry I recommended it and put a few people through it. I worry Foundation is going to go the same way.

No problem mate, I'd have recommended it after the first couple.

It's weird because some of my favourites like Breaking Bad, The Wire, Gomorrah, and lately, Bosch, I wasn't that keen on to begin with.

I guess mini-series are somewhat different as they can't afford a slow burn.

I find that with music. If I immediately love something more often than not it has no staying power with me.

16 hours ago, Brammie Steve said:

Music has never been better than it was in the sixties but has never been more accessible than it is now! 
Technology has shrunk the world beyond anything we imagined back in the day!

As a HUGE music fan to the extent that I opened a shop just to get more involved, I'd totally disagree with that.

There was nothing like the variety of music then as there is now.

You think it was better then because you (and the vast majority of people out there) have no clue what is being produced.

I have music on 7 or 8 hours per day and am always finding really good new stuff and barely scratch the surface

There was some brilliant stuff produced in the 60s' but now is an amazing time for music. 

I'd compare it to TV. There are so many brilliant TV series and mini-series, but because there are so many different platforms it's easy to miss great stuff. In fact, impossible not to, just check out the TV thread.

I'd say it was easier to find good music in the 60s than maybe it is n

ow though. 

We watched the final episode of Vigil last night.

Episode 1 - David Nish/10

Episodes 2 - 4 - Ron Webster/10

Episode 5 - Derek Hales/10

Episode 6 - Derek Hales mum/10

I'd like to have a word with the people plying the scriptwriters with drink.

Soooo many plot flaws and soooo much nonsense starting about half way into the 5th episode.

Questions and some spoilers, so don't read below if you haven't seen it yet.

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What on earth was the point of the subplot regarding the two women and was there anything more obvious than she was going to tell her she loved her at the end?

At one point they said the Russians were trying to get the sub to surface. Well it did, the first time?

Can you really potentially sink a nuclear sub with a spanner and some ill will? I honestly don't know the answer to that, but it's a tad worrying of you can.

Why would the Russian Navy go after a NATO sub in peacetime? Couldn't they have set the scene with some massive tension that had been building over months to make it remotely plausible?

You cannot keep the smell of an orange in a polythene bag, but the coxswain wrapped a can of sarin in it ffs!

She was a trained cop but she turned into a typical stereotypical TV woman in some scenes, especially when Prentice was being stabbed for fun. I'm just surprised they didn't have her put her hands to the side of her head and scream, just in case we weren't sure she was a weak pathetic woman.

Meanwhile her partner was fighting off a big burly Russian with a knife back at home.

She was telling the coxswain to push through to get out (which he did) after being poisoned by highly toxic nerve gas and of course, he managed to get out. I'm not sure chemical weapons work quite like that. It's not like he was running a 5k and felt a bit tired.

The cook died in seconds covered in vomit and the coxswain had more exposure but got better sans vomit and even managed being throttled whilst in bed.

The doctor gave him a lovely kiss after she knew he was toxic and even though she was basically finishing with him.

They were telling everybody to keep away from the other people who were effected by the gas but they were queuing up to touch the coxswain.

Sarin is invisible, yet this looked like something out of a Frankenstein lab.

Other than the bad dude, I though the acting wasn't bad at all and so was the scene itself.

This has massive promise and ended up like something FOX TV would have made with some swearing.

What did you think @Carl Sagan?

2 hours ago, David said:

Which radio and tv stations? 

I'm also online a lot, haven't seen anything outside the bubble 

Not TV tbh because I don't watch that online so I shouldn't have said that, but Radio 5, Talk Sport and a ton of it on social media and random message boards.

I work in online marketing so I'm interacting with others all the time. Half of my day is soent on social and I trip over it all over the place.

I really don't care what Leeds, Forest and Boro fans say, they have axes to grind.

I doubt this would have bothered me one iota 30 years ago and (as has been pointed out by somebody else) and it wouldn't bother me if we were disliked because we were really good.

This bugs me because there's some truth to it and it has zero to do with us as fans.

And I don't like older supporters feeling intimated when they go to support Derby.

Maybe twas ever thus, it certainly could be horrible in the 70s and 80s, or maybe I'm less tolerant with people not thinking about others, I dunno.

It's just an opinion, nothing more, nothing less.

8 minutes ago, David said:

How are you judging this dislike for us?

Radio, TV, social media. I work online, I'm online 12 hours per day and I read a lot.

3 hours ago, ossieram said:

My aren't we precious!!!

So we want to fill pride park, but only if the people meet the standards set by a certain few.

Get over yourself, Derby fans are no better than fans of other clubs up and down the country, no worse either. 

We have idiots and it seems we have some perfect angels who think videoing fellow Rams to get them banned just as the club needs all the money it can get, is a good idea.

I wish I'd been born perfect. 

I wish you had too and I wouldn't have to bother writing this post.

I don't give a damn if you're Derby fan, if you think it's ok to abuse other people and mock them over the death of a 2-day-old baby then I seriously do not like you as a person. And I am not saying you do think that, I'm merely saying I don't care about people like that. I'd rather have a Forest fan who was a decent person.

Just because you decided by luck or birth to support the same football team as me means nothing more about you as a person than if you prefer the Beatles to the Stones. 

And fwiw, I agree that we're no better or no worse. I had that conversation with a Sheff Utd fan yesterday when I told him I got sucker punched leaving a Derby game at Bramall Lane.

This isn't just about Billy Sharp, other Derby fans are getting upset and stressed at away games. @angieram mentioned this. So to take your all sticking together vibe, well we should be doing that with everybody and not letting some people dictate things.

A friend of mine got thrown out of a Derby game because the guy in front wouldn't sit down at an away game even though there were two OAPs behind him who couldn't stand and couldn't see and a fight broke out.


 

33 minutes ago, David said:

Step outside the bubble once in a while and many won't even know what's going off.

I have no interaction with Forest, Leeds or Boro fans so I'm not in that bubble and haven't been for 30 years.

1 hour ago, Macintosh said:

Shaun Lowry summed this up best when talking about the abuse his wife received at the Ryder Cup last weekend:

"Nobody turns into a genius with drinking and taking drugs."

That is a quite brilliant quote!

3 hours ago, Mick Brolly said:

I'm not in the least bit paranoid.

The guy hiding in the bushes is though.

14 minutes ago, Boycie said:

As if I ain’t got enough to do.??

My ego hates you.

I love you though.

It seems everybody in this forum agrees that the is vile and embarrassing behaviour at Bramall Lane by some Derby fans was unacceptable.

Of course a few won't really, but I highly doubt they will have the guts to say so in here.

A lot of people are growing to dislike us as much as Leeds were disliked in the 70s (and ever since tbf) and other clubs at various times like Millwall, Man U and Hope Valley Under-15s. Although the last one may be more personal tbf.

What Morris has been doing it entirely out of our control, but what those around us do, isn't.

For example, if a particular abusive chants start up, the majority could respond with something counter.

I don't mean Kumbaya, although that may very well work, or Imagine by John Lennon, although that too may work, but something like 'your're knobs and know you are etc'

Not that, clearly, that's lame, but something agreed on.

Plus, if fans en masse started filming the morons on their phones and the word had been put out that they'd be reporting to the club and/or Police it may help.

Obviously, I don't want anybody getting hurt, so be careful. And I'm happy to hold somebody's coat at the back if required.

Back in Cornwall that is.

We have to make these people thoroughly unwelcome because whereas they may not care when they're high or drunk, they will be after and/or before.

What they are doing is often illegal, and in all seriousness, it is up to us to do something about it if it's to change.

I almost want to adopt Millwalls chant of 'Nobody likes us and we don't care' but I'd be lying, I do care and I'd like Derby to be admired and respected rather than despised and mocked.

On 27/09/2021 at 20:37, Ruud Aralliss said:

I can only think that it was started by some deadheads and others thought there was some substance to it to join in!?!  Even so it was bad on so many levels.

I had no clue we have a Grateful Dead loving contingent following us.

8 minutes ago, Wolfie said:

I'm struggling to see any benefit that comes from it. I've got loads of "friends" on there that in all honesty, I probably wouldn't stop and talk to on the street. I'm fed up of the "look at me" bragging posts and those angry/sad clickbait ones where they're trying to draw you in to find out "You OK hun?".

 

100% agree mate.

They're a bunch of needy, narcissistic fragile saddos constantly craving the limelight and needing to have their ego stoked by external things outside of their control. It's a recipe for unahppiness and poor mental health.

Does anybody know how I can make this part of my signature?

I'd like it to update every time I get a like so people can see it. @Boycie any chance of you writing some code for me please?

19 hours ago, Angry Ram said:

Social Media is dividing us, simple as that. It is destroying society. Facebook, Twitter don't give a toss. $$$$.

 

It''s not as simple as that, it's an incredibly complex issue and it's polarising Society, not destroying it.

31 minutes ago, Boycie said:

No idea.

Is there a no innuendo policy. 

58 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said:

Oh my!  I wish I hadn't clicked on that!  I've just found out why all my exes dumped me, despite me being great in bed!   ?

You're not that good mate.

I mean you weren't too shabby, but I'd not class you as great. 

At least we know who's to blame for this cluster.

It's the remainers!