Bob The Badger

12 hours ago, Archied said:

Oops ,tell a lie I did try the Derby county area many many moons ago ,couldn’t quite figure the place out??‍♂️

For the most part I just use it to follow Derby stuff and comedians I like and it's pretty good for that tbf.

56 minutes ago, cstand said:

Whats wrong with having to miss out on play time done it many times when I told by a teacher never done me any harm. 

I hate to be the ne top break it to you, but....

22 minutes ago, Archied said:

Omnicron,,, jumble it up 

moronic,,,      hmmmm  , really laughing at the masses now ??‍♂️
as for masks they can stick them where’ the sun don’t shine , won’t be wearing one ever again ,this crap stops here for me??‍♂️

I saw that on Twitter too.

1 hour ago, therealhantsram said:

Wrong. Totally wrong.

Many don't even lead on the story.

Of those that do, the Mail and Telegraph both lead on positive stories. Telegraph "New Variant Less Worrying Than Delta". Mail "Experts say Jabs Will Work".

The Express is the only one with an outright negative story "Variant Threat to XMAS"

The Times, The i, The Sun and the Star lead on other stories.

You are simply making stuff up to support your argument.

There was a report on BBC 5 Live earlier this morning saying that it may not be as bad as feared.

fear-mongering BBC up to their old tricks.

5 hours ago, observer said:

How many people have died from flu / pneumonia that hasnt been blamed on covid for the last few years

Probably none as the flu is easier to test for than covid.

I got super sick last October and they tested me for flu in a few minutes.

When it was negative, then they tested me for Covid.

5 hours ago, observer said:

on either side of the argument is an equally qualified scientist or chemist to argue either point.

Being married to a DNP, I know she doesn't know any medical professional who thinks the vaccine does nothing. Nor did she when we lived in the US.

More people die from Covid in an hour than there are doctors who genuinely believe the vaccine doesn't help.
 

5 hours ago, observer said:

alot of GPS should be ashamed of themselves and the service they provided

Here I have a bit of sympathy, again based on my wife's anecdotal feedback.

She thinks that a lot of doctors are using it to reduce their workload.

She is really pissed off that she still cannot run her clinic and see patients in person if they have been tested, but knows others that don't want to go back to seeing patients. She  worries that this could see a radical shift in how doctors see patients.

She's only one person though 

That no team outside the top 4 has conceded fewer goals than we have this season.

And that only Millwall, Bournemouth, Fulham and West Brom have lost fewer games.

Yet here we are, adrift at the bottom

What's not remarkable though, is the thread calling for Rooney to go before he even had a chance to start has disappeared though.

If we do stay up, which I think is highly unlikely, I think WR is doing a Frank and heading back to Old Trafford.

No clue who this guy is, but I think this is well explained. 

For those of you who do like Curb Your Enthusiasm, this is brilliant 

Watched the latest episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm last night.

Just brilliant, brilliant, comedy writing. Larry David is a genius.

It's weird for a comedy series to require you to get really into the characters, but CYE does.

But when you do it's hysterical and super clever.

On 21/09/2021 at 13:38, MuespachRam said:

I saw Aziz Ansari in St Petersburg a couple of years ago, he was truly awful..gutted because I was really looking forward to seeing him. All he did was shout mainly about “being brown”…It got old very quickly…

also, there was a strictly no phones allowed thing, where you had to put your phone into a magnetic bag thing that could only be opened outside the venue….. just weird 

also saw Peter Kay once at the height of his fame, and he basically regurgitated all the jokes you have heard a million times by him all night, it was like watching his dvd, so disappointing as I think he is an absolute genius  

 

I missed this, but yeh, we had to do that when we went to see Chris Rock.

But that's the only time in scores and scores of gigs.

Reporting back on the 3 I have seen since September.

Jonathan Pie in Sheffield. Very good.

I saw Bill Maher a couple of years ago who you would expect to be better political satirist with his level of experience and fame, but he wasn't.

Whereas Marr was funny his rant felt like an out and out rant.

Pie's rant was a carefully crafted parody with a brilliant and hysterical anti-woke story weaved in of how his fictitious character got sacked from the BBC.

Yes, he's massively anti-Tory, but he's also massively anti-woke and fed up with cancel culture.

I guess you always laugh more at what you agree with.

Frank Skinner in Plymouth. Very good.

As his from the 90s my favourite stand up show of all time he had a lot to live up to and he never quite got there.

He's a lot more gentle now and as he's only a year or two older than me I loved a lot of the stuff on health and getting older.

He told some jokes that kinda went nowhere, but were still funny even if they never had me rolling around in the aisles.

Jimmy Carr in Plymouth. Utterly brilliant.

Best live show I've seen since I last saw Doug Stanhope.

Possibly even better than Stanhope was the last time, but obviously totally different styles.

Did almost 2 hours and I missed half the jokes because I was laughing so much.

Like Skinner, just brilliant at working the crowd and actively encourages heckling.

Next up Stanhope in Sheffield in March. It will be the 8th time I've seen him and my best mate in the US just saw the start of his tour in Orlando and said he was his usual brilliant suff.

2 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

So in summary:-

It doesn't stop you from catching it.

It doesn't stop you from spreading it.

You had a 2% chance of dying, if you caught it, before the vaccine. 

The poster is saying you still have a 2% chance of dying if you catch it having had the vaccine. 

I'm sure you may undertand my confusion.

I'm not saying the vaccine has not saved lives here by the way.

I'm guessing that poster is wrong.

It sounds very high to me, but I can't be arsed to research it because it's irrelevant to our conversation, so I dunno.

Plus, I would then need to go and research the stats from the first wave to compare the,.

Then I'd have to present them to you for you to ignore.

But this is how low the conversation has stooped where one poster will quote another just because it supports his view.

So in summary.

The vaccine makes you less likely to catch it.

And it makes you far less likely to end up in hospital, or the morgue, if you do catch it.

I definitely understand your confusion though because that is incredibly hard to wrap your head around.

11 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

I was under the impression that the vaccine stopped people from developing serious illness but that would appear to be wrong?

Yes it is wrong.

You clearly know this.

You just MUST know this.

How can you not know this?

Have you been under nailed into a QAnon forum?

Experts have said from the start and they keep saying it.

It makes it less likely and less likely to progress beyond serious illness to death.

Who said you cannot catch it if you were vaccinated?

This is utterly ludicrous.

34 minutes ago, Archied said:

I don’t think it’s a bad thing to put some store in what you experiencing around you ??‍♂️

I do.

I think it's as ridiculous to say that it's not dangerous because you don't know anybody who has died from it (I do btw) as it is to says it's going to kill us all because you lost 3 family members.

2 hours ago, TexasRam said:

In my defence people were debating how deadly Covid was, I just started it effects everyone so it’s a simple calculation population vs deaths. If folk aren’t catching it then it’s not that deadly is it. It does seem if people don’t like the facts then the “it’s not worth debating” line is thrown out. Anyway I want to thank you agreeing I was telling the truth. 

The boffins say that Ebola kills 90% of people it infects, but how can that be true when I don't know one person in this country who has caught it?

Are you and @observerworking in tandem to post stuff that is so ridiculously easily refutable, or flat out makes no sense?

 

2 hours ago, observer said:

Im still yet to see a fit and healthly person under the age of 60 thats died, sorry but its true.

LMGTFY

Did you not think to even look it up before making such a statement of fact?

It took me literally 30 seconds to find evidence that it's not true.

1 hour ago, Archied said:

Yep debate is pointless, even if I go with official figures I don’t believe they justify the policies?‍♂️
as we iradicate stuff that kills and debilitates us over the years new things come along , to justify the actions taken the death rate needs to be far far higher

I think there's point in debating policy. I think your opinion on that is as valid as mine, or anybody else's in this group.

Well, I actually don't have a strong opinion on it because I've no idea what the best course is and I'd rather let smarter people than me decide.

I think we'll only know when we look back in 10 or 20 years time.

But that's another matter.

I think the areas not worth debating are when people like @TexasRamsay things like anybody can catch it regardless of measures so are susceptible to it’s risks which is kinda, almost, true..technically, but misses out the blindingly obvious and critical point that they are less likely to by far if they follow guidelines.

Has any scientist ever said it would be 100% effective? Even Fauci IIRC said they were aiming for 90% and they've beaten that.

It's like asking somebody to answer the question 'have you stopped molesting hamsters, yes or no?" It's just a gotcha question that has no value in a sensible debate. 

And then others like @G STAR RAM say (the) Vaccine isnt very good then because like every other vaccine in human history and every branch of medicine it isn't 100% effective.

I doubt there is any medical expert in this field that wouldn't agree the vaccine has saved countless lives, so ya know, not sure how you measure not very good.

If it was sarcasm, then it certainly wasn't very good sarcasm.

PS. I have stopped molesting hamsters.

For the time being.

Watching I'm a Celebrity for the first time in 15 or 16 years and that wife's request.

I'm actually finding myself laughing a lot even though I barely knew any of the celebs other than Madeley, who seems like he's on a PR campaign.

I do really like Ant and Dec.

I think maybe I just lowered the IQ of this thread.

2 hours ago, Eddie said:

Not true. I was proper porkly.

I heard there was snout wrong with you that it you were telling porkies and bacon it all up.

I have a bowl of syrup that's more interesting than Cameron. Who on earth said 'I know who we should hire, Cameron Jerome'?

Plus, somebody else's said 'Yes!'

7 minutes ago, StrawHillRam said:

Brian Clough by any chance?

I think that was funny.

And subtle.

Anyway it was fat knacker who came to us eventually. 

i 

1 minute ago, Carl Sagan said:

One of the worst taken penalties you'll ever see from Lawrence, but we'll take it.

Average of penalties scored hit down the middle is the most so <shrug>

You coach people how to do stuff by showing them and then asking them to do it under pressure even again and again even if they duck up the first time.

Guts on show. 

4 minutes ago, IslandExile said:

I'd admire it more if he taught them when to do it.

But if he can do no wrong in your eyes.....

Ludicrous. 

At least don't make stuff up.

I think he's done lots wrong. I just try to be balanced.