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King Crimson….you never spoke a truer word!

Gloss it up as much you want but some clearly don't like Warne and that is ok, not everybody likes everybody i get it....If its football reasons though I still think thats unfair as looking at the game even today there was some nice neat interchanges of play on the floor and not hoofball as some say and even last season we played some nice stuff at times but some only see hoofball ? ( The second goal today was brilliant play and Radcliffe did what i want our midfielders to do...pass and move and get into the box ) 
Some seem to dislike Warne because he's a bit quirky, friendly etc etc ...I find this astonishing really !
What do you want ? a person who's un-friendly ? Closed ? obnoxious ? 
Also when we got Cocu as manager some instantly disliked him yet here was a proper gentleman and had played at the very highest level 
I don't understand what fans actually want sometimes but i guess we all have different opinions 
FWIW I like Warne he's a decent bloke and cares about the club, the fans and the players 👍
 

From a Luton friend :
“Great signing mate! He was a huge part of our success getting out of league one and pushing up the table in the championship. Good goal threat as well 👍”

Agreed. A lot been made of “the right character”. Elder was a dressing room leader at Hull and brings that to us. Ward is honest and hardworking. Nelson has captained all of his former clubs so brings leadership too. Washington was really articulate and self aware, known for his selfless hard running. And Bradley, leadership and quiet self confidence in abundance. 

A squad made up of character, resilience, a bit of physicality, some athleticism, footballing ability….get some goals from across the side and any further new signings and it’s a good looking season for me.

From a Luton friend :
“Great signing mate! He was a huge part of our success getting out of league one and pushing up the table in the championship. Good goal threat as well 👍”

From a Luton friend :
“Great signing mate! He was a huge part of our success getting out of league one and pushing up the table in the championship. Good goal threat as well 👍”

From a Luton friend :
“Great signing mate! He was a huge part of our success getting out of league one and pushing up the table in the championship. Good goal threat as well 👍”

From a Luton friend :
“Great signing mate! He was a huge part of our success getting out of league one and pushing up the table in the championship. Good goal threat as well 👍”

Well actually there was an uplift wasnt there…. Quite an epic one which at one point had us all dreaming of catching the running away with it top 2 
but then the toils of having the smallest squad in the league took its toll
funny what people chose to ignore and remember 

Think thats the point… now is too early 
6 games into the season is too early 
xmas is my benchmark as to how the recruitment has gone
teams need to gel… those with short memories or not old enough to remember jim smiths promotion season will remember we didnt get going til we finally beat southend at home on that cold wet tuesday night at the bbg
going to have to be patient people 

The club recruits… its a process involving a lot of people. 
 
u would think .. and iv no reason to doubt it that he has final say on what player puts pen to paper but the process or scouting , contract negotiating , dealing with agents , dealing with other clubs, maanaging budgets is a club process with many people involved
if players dont want to join becuase we’re a league one side, or the wages arnt what they want, or the contract length isnt what they want then thats not on warne thats the club
Although needless to say it will be pinned on his door 
 

Paul Warne is prrobably finding himself as a manager in a position he's never been
Manager of a side who are the big boys in the division, probably have the biggest budget, have the biggest fan base in division and the highest expectation and dare i say it favourites to win the league
Although he has experience of getting out of this division he will surely see the difference in the player that this club attracts compared to Rovrum ( No disrespect ) 
Therefore it does not surprise me that he is taking his time when it comes to spending our budget because I'm sure that is where the bulk of the budget is going in the forward line.
I know its frustrating as us fans wait for news but I think we maybe pleasantly surprised and hopefully pleased with the forwards we sign....eventually ....the better players usually take longer as there is more interest than just us  
Exciting season ahead 
COYR 

Live pictures of @loweman2 preparing a post for tomorrow with all the kits we've had that have red in.

In fairness, it’s much cooler than pretty much any alternative sponsor.
Think how many shirts we’d sell with Niall Horan written across the front of a Derby shirt!

I always enjoy @Caerphilly Ram ‘s posts. He talks common sense and isn’t part of the forum in joke clique.

Nah , crack on posting what you think /feel , that’s the whole point of the forum 

Try leaving your stats to one side please stato
I'm quite old fashioned in that I see what i see on the actual pitch
Why keep comparing us to Plymouth when the main comparison point  is they got a lot more points than us ! 
Didn't compare Bannan to Bird in any way what I am saying is if you actually care to read it without rose tinted glasses is Knight and Bird, as good a players as they are....( good players!!) when I watch them they are NOT going to get the goals required to help our forwards out....Hourihane at his age is not worth what we could get for Bird or Knight so going back to my original post ....selling one of them and IF the money was invested properly we could realistically get 2 maybe 3 decent players ( thats not rebuilding the side but wheeling and dealing yes to keep us financially sound ) and for me 1 should be a more attack minded midfielder, i'm not going to get into an argument because its not an argument ...thats your take on it My opinion stands and I'm saying no more ....
id sell one of Knight or Bird , preferably Knight and then use the money wisely ....thats it ...because I don't and won't see Bird,Knight and Hourihane scoring enough ....and for me Bird could be more of a box to box player but he's not played in that way ....Bielik showed how to play the CDM role and Max for me would be better if we tried to get him to play with more attack in mind because I think he could do it ....I think Bird could be one of the best midfielders in L1 if he was more forward thinking but if he's not going to play that role then we need a goalscoring midfielder 

Or he sees additional strengths for Bird to make better use of? Bird is still young and can learn and grow into a new role. 

Just had to check the thread title again, so any rumours anyone?

Some clearly don’t like Warne …no matter what …I’d hate to be sat anywhere near them though at a game …it’s bordering on a kind of hatred and I find that difficult to comprehend at times …
would you rather have someone managing our club who’s closed and unfriendly? How many managers would go and watch a player who’s left the club for his boyhood club? He’s a decent man even if he’s not a success he’s a decent bloke 
I thought Cocu was treated poorly by some fans and was embarrassing to hear at times …Cocu was a gentleman and our first ever foreign coach but some couldn’t wait to kick him like they enjoy it but when he left he left with dignity and didn’t seek big compensation nor did his team of coaches 
let’s give Warne a chance at least without looking into every angle and seeing a negative ffs 

You say let’s wait and see, yet you seem unwilling to do so yourself by making statements about Warne’s approach to recruiting, before you’ve even seen the calibre of player. You could of course be prove correct, but there’s no evidence yet either way 🤷🏻‍♂️ 
McGoldrick left for his own reasons, he has stated that, Warne has stated that, his new club have stated that. It seems very clear from all parties involved that despite Derby and Warne’s efforts to convince him to stay, McGoldrick took his own decision to play for his boyhood club, what is it about that you think Warne could have changed? 
In your opinion Warne has got it backwards, and in his opinion he wants players willing to be part of a cohesive unit that can also play the style of football he wants. NOWHERE has he said he won’t recruit good footballers, he’s said they need to be both good footballers AND good people.
There are countless examples of talented footballers through the years, arguably more talented than anyone else they’ve played with, whose attitudes stank their clubs out. We had a very famous example on our books a couple of season back. I would rather have a group of solid, capable players motivated to play for the shirt and the fans week in week out than the likes of Ravel Morrison, or an Adel Taraabt who have all the talent and a stinking attitude towards the team. Ravel looked like perhaps he’d finally found a home here and was going to finally disprove all that had gone before regarding his attitude….then he didn’t, and at the first opportunity he jumped ship. One bad apple and all that….
Again, I’m looking past who Warne is and focused on what he’s saying. You don’t like the bloke, cause he wears a hat, or makes bad jokes, or came from a small club, or whatever the reason. What he’s currently saying makes some sense, recruit good players who can represent this club in front of a big crowd and work hard for one another in order to bring success. What is it about that you don’t like? 
 

I thought it was tomorrow? 🤔

Cos no one has signed 4 days before the window opens.

Exactly this. We're a big club and players will want to come here. Some will see the possibility of a league one promotion push better than mid table, lower half championship.
Let's not forget, Mcgoldrick, NML, Hourihane etc all had championship offers on more money but chose to come here.
Warne has essentially said he will never promise a player they will start or that we'll build a team around them. Because he's spot on. You come here to work hard and earn it and if you do then you will play and you'll do well. I want players of that ilk pulling the shirt on each week not ones who come here for an easy ride with no desire to work or spitting dummies out the pram when they don't play.
 

Your personal decisions when taking on a job may not equate to the same considerations made by people involved in football, it’s a relatively unique industry and you don’t tend to go out on loan in the vast majority of “normal jobs”. Clubs will send their players out on loan for a number of reasons, might be game time, might be to play a certain “brand” of football which I think is what you’re alluding to, might be to get used to playing in a more physical league to combine toughness with their existing silky skills and so on. 
Just seemed an odd comment to post in a thread which is meant for people to share and discuss transfer suggestions. There was no suggestion just comments that Warne won’t be able to attract loan players to the club, and yet Warne brought in loans from clubs in higher divisions in January. Plenty of discussion of Warne’s merits and faults in other threads, the failings of January have been well covered also, and his use of players in alternative positions to their apparent strengths. He now has the summer to shape the squad according to how he wants the team to play, if he finds the right players to win games and get us out of this league I’ll be happy. I’m optimistic about the summer and our recruitment as I see very little reason not to be at the moment and am content to give Warne until the transfer window closes and the season gets going before I confirm my judgement of our recruitment’s successes and failures.