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The business plan is going to EFL tomorrow

Is it nut that we are under a transfer embargo still, where all signings, registrations and extensions have to be approved by the EFL? We have no money can only just afford to finish the season and as yet not agreed business plan for the future. Be patient
 
 

Is it nut that we are under a transfer embargo still, where all signings, registrations and extensions have to be approved by the EFL? We have no money can only just afford to finish the season and as yet not agreed business plan for the future. Be patient
 
 

Because we couldn’t afford to operate to the end of the season with the players we had

The business plan is going to EFL tomorrow

Is it nut that we are under a transfer embargo still, where all signings, registrations and extensions have to be approved by the EFL? We have no money can only just afford to finish the season and as yet not agreed business plan for the future. Be patient
 
 

I want the opposite. I want us to have Rooney’s passion, ideals and philosophy.  For this to work he needs to bring the players he identifies in, within the business plan limits. Any structure that stifles his player recruitment will hinder him doing his job.
the rebuild is from the ground up. Rooney is a scholar from two clubs with history - both had success under long term managers whose philosophy ran through the clubs veins, through the players and fans. Obviously one had more success than the other, but he knows the importance of stability and a vision of how the club should be.
CK will know this too, as he is apparently successful in his own right in business. 
 
success is about having the right people in place, any structure has to support the Manager, not designed to hamstring him. 
 
we have a chance now to build - build a club, ethos, vision and structure that will breed success.
 
I think Rooney will stay with as as long as he can build the club in his way, will he leave us in the future? Possibly, but why would he if we are successful?

I want the opposite. I want us to have Rooney’s passion, ideals and philosophy.  For this to work he needs to bring the players he identifies in, within the business plan limits. Any structure that stifles his player recruitment will hinder him doing his job.
the rebuild is from the ground up. Rooney is a scholar from two clubs with history - both had success under long term managers whose philosophy ran through the clubs veins, through the players and fans. Obviously one had more success than the other, but he knows the importance of stability and a vision of how the club should be.
CK will know this too, as he is apparently successful in his own right in business. 
 
success is about having the right people in place, any structure has to support the Manager, not designed to hamstring him. 
 
we have a chance now to build - build a club, ethos, vision and structure that will breed success.
 
I think Rooney will stay with as as long as he can build the club in his way, will he leave us in the future? Possibly, but why would he if we are successful?

The chef should be creating a menu from the dishes you want to eat. That’s his job. The DOF should be providing signings from those selected by the manager.

Possibly . But I reckon clubs will look to their income and open more up to us if demand is there.

The chef should be creating a menu from the dishes you want to eat. That’s his job. The DOF should be providing signings from those selected by the manager.

I want the opposite. I want us to have Rooney’s passion, ideals and philosophy.  For this to work he needs to bring the players he identifies in, within the business plan limits. Any structure that stifles his player recruitment will hinder him doing his job.
the rebuild is from the ground up. Rooney is a scholar from two clubs with history - both had success under long term managers whose philosophy ran through the clubs veins, through the players and fans. Obviously one had more success than the other, but he knows the importance of stability and a vision of how the club should be.
CK will know this too, as he is apparently successful in his own right in business. 
 
success is about having the right people in place, any structure has to support the Manager, not designed to hamstring him. 
 
we have a chance now to build - build a club, ethos, vision and structure that will breed success.
 
I think Rooney will stay with as as long as he can build the club in his way, will he leave us in the future? Possibly, but why would he if we are successful?

I don’t my blame Mel
disagree with his actions but don’t blame him.
he did what we all wanted, chased the premier league dream in the way he knew how, and we wanted. Pump in cash, throw money at it. 
 
what we didn’t want, or de enough of to keep him in check was
1) try to circumvent FFP
2) set us on a cliff edge where failure meant oblivion
 
it’s not our fault, we trusted a man who claimed to be on of our own, a supporter thick and thin. We trusted his business acumen - this is where as a group we fans ducked up. This is why
 
1) he made most of his money getting lucky and selling a company who created an app - nothing to do with his business know how
2) tolerated him entering the changing room to berate the team - Rooney mentioned this in passing in a recent interview and it’s cropped up in the past (Pearson I think leaving as manager)
3) his overt attempts to circumvent FFP
had Mel not been a “Fan” we would not have stood for these (and I think others will have more examples. We ignored red flags
 
no opology will be forthcoming - narcissists don’t say sorry 
 
 

The chef should be creating a menu from the dishes you want to eat. That’s his job. The DOF should be providing signings from those selected by the manager.

The chef should be creating a menu from the dishes you want to eat. That’s his job. The DOF should be providing signings from those selected by the manager.

But does the director of football puck the players? Or does he do the leg work to sign the players the manager requests?

I want the opposite. I want us to have Rooney’s passion, ideals and philosophy.  For this to work he needs to bring the players he identifies in, within the business plan limits. Any structure that stifles his player recruitment will hinder him doing his job.
the rebuild is from the ground up. Rooney is a scholar from two clubs with history - both had success under long term managers whose philosophy ran through the clubs veins, through the players and fans. Obviously one had more success than the other, but he knows the importance of stability and a vision of how the club should be.
CK will know this too, as he is apparently successful in his own right in business. 
 
success is about having the right people in place, any structure has to support the Manager, not designed to hamstring him. 
 
we have a chance now to build - build a club, ethos, vision and structure that will breed success.
 
I think Rooney will stay with as as long as he can build the club in his way, will he leave us in the future? Possibly, but why would he if we are successful?

I want the opposite. I want us to have Rooney’s passion, ideals and philosophy.  For this to work he needs to bring the players he identifies in, within the business plan limits. Any structure that stifles his player recruitment will hinder him doing his job.
the rebuild is from the ground up. Rooney is a scholar from two clubs with history - both had success under long term managers whose philosophy ran through the clubs veins, through the players and fans. Obviously one had more success than the other, but he knows the importance of stability and a vision of how the club should be.
CK will know this too, as he is apparently successful in his own right in business. 
 
success is about having the right people in place, any structure has to support the Manager, not designed to hamstring him. 
 
we have a chance now to build - build a club, ethos, vision and structure that will breed success.
 
I think Rooney will stay with as as long as he can build the club in his way, will he leave us in the future? Possibly, but why would he if we are successful?

Possibly . But I reckon clubs will look to their income and open more up to us if demand is there.

I don’t my blame Mel
disagree with his actions but don’t blame him.
he did what we all wanted, chased the premier league dream in the way he knew how, and we wanted. Pump in cash, throw money at it. 
 
what we didn’t want, or de enough of to keep him in check was
1) try to circumvent FFP
2) set us on a cliff edge where failure meant oblivion
 
it’s not our fault, we trusted a man who claimed to be on of our own, a supporter thick and thin. We trusted his business acumen - this is where as a group we fans ducked up. This is why
 
1) he made most of his money getting lucky and selling a company who created an app - nothing to do with his business know how
2) tolerated him entering the changing room to berate the team - Rooney mentioned this in passing in a recent interview and it’s cropped up in the past (Pearson I think leaving as manager)
3) his overt attempts to circumvent FFP
had Mel not been a “Fan” we would not have stood for these (and I think others will have more examples. We ignored red flags
 
no opology will be forthcoming - narcissists don’t say sorry 
 
 

You’re going to be gutted this morning, and rightly so.
But it ain’t all bad.
When we dropped out of the old 2nd division into the 3rd in 1984 things were in many ways, worse.
We didn’t (quite) have the financial issues, but we had a horrible team and the entire season was utterly depressing and devoid of hope in a way this season hasn’t been.
My personal highlight of an utterly depressing season was meeting Dave Watson in a Little Chef on the A1 after we spanked Cambridge away 3-0 in the FA Cup. That was pretty much it for ducks sake.
AND we had not just relegation, but the ignominy of losing to Plymouth in the FA Cup quarter-final to contend with after we had dragged them back to the BBG.
We all thought that we’d bounce right back when we did get relegated and the arrival of Arthur Cox just emboldened that belief.
An opening day away loss to Bournemouth, when Bournemouth then were more like the equivalent of Exeter now, didn’t dissuade us.
Of course, we didn’t bounce back and ended up outside the top 6.
But we had some BRILLIANT away days that season, Hull, Lincoln, and the last game of the season at Newport spring to mind.
It was a whole lot more fun than the previous season because we were, for the most part, competing and you could see what Arthur was trying to do.
There’s something fun about going to smaller clubs and taking the place over. Those of you who travel to away games know that the camaraderie is special.
In fact, the adversity that we have faced this season has developed that camaraderie, only it’s done it at home.
I work online and use social media a lot and the admiration for Derby’s support, especially those of you who travel away is a delight to read. I’ve even read genuine Forest and Leeds fans say they’re impressed.
And what’s not to be impressed about?
Forget the trolls who are loving this, the REAL football supporters appreciate and understand what Rooney has dragged the club through and the guy is universally respected, exponentially more so than when he was merely an excellent player.
He’s now an excellent ex-player and an excellent human being. Time will tell if he can become an excellent manager, but the signs are promising.
The second year under Arthur we did come up and that season was even better for road trips..
I’ve seen Derby beat Benfica, Real Madrid, every top English club multiple times and Forest many times. But if I were to list the best 5 games I’ve ever attended, Derby at home to Rotherham in the old 3rd Division on a Friday night would be up there.
That game with that penalty that took us back up to what would now be the Championship was a raucous, intense and then delirious atmosphere ending in an effing celebration comparable with any I have witnessed - although to be fair, my memory is a tad blurry because we did hit the pub hard.
I doubt there was a Liverpool fan that got anything like the joy from beating Man City in the cup semi or will get more if they win the thing, than we Derby fans got from squeaking past Rotherham that night.
The fact is, winning is just fun, no matter what division you are in. And beating adversity is fun too. So much more satisfying and enjoyable than just delivering on what’s expected.
Somebody posted that they hope we're not that team that thinks they will bounce back up.
I don't really care if fans think that. It's totally irrelevant.
What is relevant is what WR thinks and what he allows his staff and players to think.
And I have no doubt whatsoever that he'll not allow that entitled type of mindset to creep in.
The good news is we have renewed hope for a stable club, a very promising manager in place, an Academy that is flourishing even if it is being pillaged and some wins to look forward to.
We are where we are, so we may as well embrace it and have fun. And you will have some fun, I promise.

Oh look two versions like I suggested depending on season outcome
 
 

Oh look two versions like I suggested depending on season outcome
 
 

Oh look two versions like I suggested depending on season outcome
 
 

Not now because we are already relegated. And only because we are already relegated.