TheTinMan

Worried about their overload in midfield? The side who hadn't scored a league goal before today had Warne worried? This is us in a nutshell we get worried about teams we are miles better than. Respect them by all means but just play our game and beat them with the superior quality  

Worried about their overload in midfield? The side who hadn't scored a league goal before today had Warne worried? This is us in a nutshell we get worried about teams we are miles better than. Respect them by all means but just play our game and beat them with the superior quality  

Worried about their overload in midfield? The side who hadn't scored a league goal before today had Warne worried? This is us in a nutshell we get worried about teams we are miles better than. Respect them by all means but just play our game and beat them with the superior quality  

He replaced Barkhuisen, our main threat, with a man who wouldn’t be dangerous with a box of lit fireworks in a petrol station.

My take is if Warne hadn't got lucky inheriting McGoldrick last season we'd have been mid table mediocrity which is roughly where we're on track for this season. But he's probably got the wage bill of a top 2 side even with the restrictions. Nowhere near good enough. 

My take is if Warne hadn't got lucky inheriting McGoldrick last season we'd have been mid table mediocrity which is roughly where we're on track for this season. But he's probably got the wage bill of a top 2 side even with the restrictions. Nowhere near good enough. 

Its a football forum? 

My take is if Warne hadn't got lucky inheriting McGoldrick last season we'd have been mid table mediocrity which is roughly where we're on track for this season. But he's probably got the wage bill of a top 2 side even with the restrictions. Nowhere near good enough. 

My take is if Warne hadn't got lucky inheriting McGoldrick last season we'd have been mid table mediocrity which is roughly where we're on track for this season. But he's probably got the wage bill of a top 2 side even with the restrictions. Nowhere near good enough. 

My take is if Warne hadn't got lucky inheriting McGoldrick last season we'd have been mid table mediocrity which is roughly where we're on track for this season. But he's probably got the wage bill of a top 2 side even with the restrictions. Nowhere near good enough. 

Too exuberant for Warne, too young and hasn't played for him at Rotherham. 

Might as well have taken Paul Chuckle from Rotherham and left Warne there. 

Its very poor considering the level of opposition 

Been like this for years to be fair, probably since losing the playoff final to Villa. I bizarrely enjoyed the relegation season under Rooney but not much else since that playoff final. Plenty of fight and youngsters getting a chance in the relegation season. Last season they got a pass for barely having a side at the start. Can barely be bothered under Warne at the moment. No danger of going down but about the same chance of going up. Pointless season. 

Been like this for years to be fair, probably since losing the playoff final to Villa. I bizarrely enjoyed the relegation season under Rooney but not much else since that playoff final. Plenty of fight and youngsters getting a chance in the relegation season. Last season they got a pass for barely having a side at the start. Can barely be bothered under Warne at the moment. No danger of going down but about the same chance of going up. Pointless season. 

Worth noting Fleetwood and Burton look strong relegation contenders this season 

Worth noting Fleetwood and Burton look strong relegation contenders this season 

You can't take this game in isolation. Its been a poor start to the season following a poor end to last season. If Clowes wants any sort of promotion push this season he needs to get shot of Warne asap. Up to him ultimately its his money. Great he saved us etc but the honeymoon period there is over, time to get serious about how long we're content being a league 1 side. 

Worth noting Fleetwood and Burton look strong relegation contenders this season 

Arguably been a worse transfer window than last summer when we had a few weeks to do business. Why are we waiting until deadliine day to make loan signings? Plenty of other sides in the league have secured premier league youngsters on loan already. 

Arguably been a worse transfer window than last summer when we had a few weeks to do business. Why are we waiting until deadliine day to make loan signings? Plenty of other sides in the league have secured premier league youngsters on loan already. 

I think its fine being patient IF that was the message the club was sending out, that they knew it'd take a while to get back to the Championship and they were trying to be forward thinking. To me going out of your way to recruit a 'promotion specialist' at this level from the league above who was still in a job at the time don't forget doesn't send out the message we are being patient as a club or more worryingly can afford to be patient. The signings don't smack of patience or of planning for the future they smack of short termism, players who on paper are much better than this level but in reality to get them to play at this level they come with huge caveats. I'm worried about far more than how this season pans out, I can see the short-term plan from the club and its probably not going to work. I have no idea what the mid-long term plans are and that is very hard to be patient about. 

I don't think there's a hope in hell of any of the ones we want to keep re-signing without getting promotion. Why on earth would they re-sign in a team where they are played out of position in front of booing home crowds? As bad as things currently feel they are probably going to feel 10x worse next summer with virtually no squad again and of note no midfielders and only Washington as a striker (worst case scenario). This is the sustainable model we're going with. Refresh your squad every 2 seasons entirely. 

The only thing I'd be asking of Clowes which is a bit benefit of hindsight and he might turn out alright but did we need to offer Warne such a long contract? We're potentially stuck with him until 2026. I suspect to attract him down a league we couldn't get away with offering him 2 years for example. 

Its the general direction of travel I'm not keen on. Signing journeyman players on short term deals, they don't extend their deals (shock horror they are all in it for the money), no resale value, continue to let youngsters get too close to the end of their deals and go for peanuts. Rinse and repeat. How do we as supporters connect to these players because with the exception of Fozzy and maybe Cashin I'm struggling to see any of these as Derby players if you get where I'm coming from, this is a means to and end for most of them for a little bit. Bird won't be here for much longer sadly. That's not being melodramatic that is the reality of this philosophy we seem to be going with.