Raich Carter

Trust me, I've played champ manager. I know what I'm on about.

Or are we just being realistic about being in League One? 

Or are we just being realistic about being in League One? 

Or are we just being realistic about being in League One? 

Here’s a list of our top scorers for the past 10 years: 
22/23: McGoldrick 
21/22: Lawrence 
20/21: Kazim Richards 
19/20: Martin/Waghorn 
18/19: Wilson
17/18: Vydra 
16/17: Ince 
15/16: Martin 
14/15: Martin
13/14: Martin 
What has everyone on this list got in common? Not a single one of the players came off the back of a high scoring season elsewhere. 
 
Buying a goalscorer doesn’t guarantee goals. That was always the case in the championship, and it’s certainly the same at this level. 
 
Every season we’ve found a goalscorer we weren’t expecting. This season won’t be any different.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Actually it's Washington, Collins (starters) and maybe Waggy. I don't see Sharp coming here.
Given that we need another midfielder, a number 10 and a striker, if Waggy isn't too expensive then as a squad player, I can see the logic. 
I keep saying this - we're in League 1 chaps. Forget the olden days of over-paying - we're not that club anymore. When we 'attracted' big players it's 'cos we paid top, top dollar and it nearly killed us. We need players to get us out of League, that's all and Waggy on a one year isn't a bad option.

McG had a stellar year yes but come on, he was getting the supply and was definitely not prolific until last season. Collins wasn't good last season (I really, really didn't rate him) but has looked great in pre-season and Washington was a £2.5m player a few years ago so whilst I agree that'd it'd be great to have another decent striker, I think PW is trying to create a squad that goes up rather than be thin in some positions.
And it wasn't our front line that let us down last year (obvs), it was the defence and we're much, much stronger at the back now. 
IMO we're going up with the squad we have now and PW has said he wants 2 or 3 more so I'll take bets that we'll go up as Champions. 
 

Not sure if it's been done but how about Wonder Warne...
I said maybe
You're gonna be the one that saves us 
And after all
You're my wonderwarne...
Coat already fetched.

Actually it's Washington, Collins (starters) and maybe Waggy. I don't see Sharp coming here.
Given that we need another midfielder, a number 10 and a striker, if Waggy isn't too expensive then as a squad player, I can see the logic. 
I keep saying this - we're in League 1 chaps. Forget the olden days of over-paying - we're not that club anymore. When we 'attracted' big players it's 'cos we paid top, top dollar and it nearly killed us. We need players to get us out of League, that's all and Waggy on a one year isn't a bad option.

Actually it's Washington, Collins (starters) and maybe Waggy. I don't see Sharp coming here.
Given that we need another midfielder, a number 10 and a striker, if Waggy isn't too expensive then as a squad player, I can see the logic. 
I keep saying this - we're in League 1 chaps. Forget the olden days of over-paying - we're not that club anymore. When we 'attracted' big players it's 'cos we paid top, top dollar and it nearly killed us. We need players to get us out of League, that's all and Waggy on a one year isn't a bad option.

Actually it's Washington, Collins (starters) and maybe Waggy. I don't see Sharp coming here.
Given that we need another midfielder, a number 10 and a striker, if Waggy isn't too expensive then as a squad player, I can see the logic. 
I keep saying this - we're in League 1 chaps. Forget the olden days of over-paying - we're not that club anymore. When we 'attracted' big players it's 'cos we paid top, top dollar and it nearly killed us. We need players to get us out of League, that's all and Waggy on a one year isn't a bad option.

Actually it's Washington, Collins (starters) and maybe Waggy. I don't see Sharp coming here.
Given that we need another midfielder, a number 10 and a striker, if Waggy isn't too expensive then as a squad player, I can see the logic. 
I keep saying this - we're in League 1 chaps. Forget the olden days of over-paying - we're not that club anymore. When we 'attracted' big players it's 'cos we paid top, top dollar and it nearly killed us. We need players to get us out of League, that's all and Waggy on a one year isn't a bad option.

Actually it's Washington, Collins (starters) and maybe Waggy. I don't see Sharp coming here.
Given that we need another midfielder, a number 10 and a striker, if Waggy isn't too expensive then as a squad player, I can see the logic. 
I keep saying this - we're in League 1 chaps. Forget the olden days of over-paying - we're not that club anymore. When we 'attracted' big players it's 'cos we paid top, top dollar and it nearly killed us. We need players to get us out of League, that's all and Waggy on a one year isn't a bad option.

.....Well, I couldn't have put it more succinctly myself. Many on here seem to think there's a hidden stash of young goal scoring gems, available at zero cost who can't wait to join DCFC on L1 wages...we need to tinge our hopes and dreams for the coming season with a large dollop of realism...

Actually it's Washington, Collins (starters) and maybe Waggy. I don't see Sharp coming here.
Given that we need another midfielder, a number 10 and a striker, if Waggy isn't too expensive then as a squad player, I can see the logic. 
I keep saying this - we're in League 1 chaps. Forget the olden days of over-paying - we're not that club anymore. When we 'attracted' big players it's 'cos we paid top, top dollar and it nearly killed us. We need players to get us out of League, that's all and Waggy on a one year isn't a bad option.

Actually it's Washington, Collins (starters) and maybe Waggy. I don't see Sharp coming here.
Given that we need another midfielder, a number 10 and a striker, if Waggy isn't too expensive then as a squad player, I can see the logic. 
I keep saying this - we're in League 1 chaps. Forget the olden days of over-paying - we're not that club anymore. When we 'attracted' big players it's 'cos we paid top, top dollar and it nearly killed us. We need players to get us out of League, that's all and Waggy on a one year isn't a bad option.

Signed last week to add some youth to midfield.

Utter nonsense. 

Not sure if it's been done but how about Wonder Warne...
I said maybe
You're gonna be the one that saves us 
And after all
You're my wonderwarne...
Coat already fetched.

If a player is free, there's a reason for it - yep, often that they've got the confidence in their ability that being a free agent means there's no transfer fee so they get increased wages. As opposed to some being a) crap b) don't fit the system anymore. But it's definitely not true that free transfer = damaged goods if that's what you meant. There are many, many examples of great players going on a free (Messi for example).
Of course we're focused on a 'good' recruitment strategy but that depends on your definition of 'good'. For every Gyokeres there are 100 Tommy Lawrence's. There are so, so many players that we might have signed, nearly signed, could have signed, etc that it's waaaay too simplistic to say 'let's take a calculated risk'. In MM's world, he was doing exactly that - spend £100m to get £500m. Look where that calculated risk got us.
As I said on another thread, we are simply not in that world anymore. We're in the business of signing players of known ability and personality to get us out of the league and that's pretty much it. Given where we've been, we can't argue with that boring but safe strategy.

Got a wicked cross on him though....

Kinky only made 13 less performances for Derby (80+13 on loan) than he did for Man City (103) where many would put him in the category of deity. Always thankful to him for the 3-3 draw against the Wendies when we were 3-1 down on 90 mins but I agree with the general sentiment, always looked really unfit and as the 'let's get Kinky on' chants started I couldn't help feeling is was all a bit a case of the legend not quite matching the reality.

I did say it was probably an unpopular opinion! I struggled with a lot of our signings around that time - just seemed to be money-motivated and there were lots of rumours about brown envelopes.
He was prob on bench 'cos he was a fat git so couldn't last 90 typically. I just remember him standing around and then when he did have the occasional run everyone would wet themselves. Not doubting his talent but I if you asked the players of the time (as I did) they'd say he was not a great pro.

If anyone suggests Beck they get an instant lifetime ban from the forum though - agreed?
My other unpopular view is that Curtis Davies wasn't that good. He couldn't pass for toffee and was glacially slow. Great guy and all that but I was nervous every time he had the ball.

Appreciate what you're saying but I don't think even us self-flagellating Rams fans can blame ourselves for Mel's Mess©. 
You know what, it's not that I necessarily blame MM for taking the risk (well, I kinda do), it's the stupid way he did it that's annoying. Massively over-paying for players, really bad choices of manager, not standing by them and then the way he exited. Anyway, that's been done to death hasn't it.