Ramslad1992

People scanning HMRC for Derby County updates
 

I have no idea how much he has. You could Google it, but again it wouldn't necessarily tell us an accurate figure. In 2018 he was listed as being worth £252mil, how accurate that is I have no idea, but my hypothesis for the deal, and his motivation, is this...
Whoever buys Derby County will be buying a club that has to operate under restrictions for the next couple of years at least. That includes how much we can spend on wages and transfer fees. In League One, in theory, it should mean that with our revenue we will be able to be self-sufficient. We can start to look to build again without having the possibility of forking out extortionate amounts. We can give longer contracts than 12 months to players, so if we can recruit another Luke Plange or Malcolm Ebiowei, like we have managed to do whilst already under restrictions, then they aren't going to be poached off of us without our say so. If we choose to sell them, we get a fee to benefit us.
Meanwhile, while we're repairing ourselves and improving, we become much more of an attractive prospect to a more ambitious buyer. We won't have the debts, we won't have the admin fees, we won't have a loan against Pride Park that essentially blocks any sale for however long.
If Clowes doesn't have the funds to keep us beyond our restricted period, I doubt he'd have anywhere near as much trouble selling us. And comparatively, he would still own a stadium that he's bought for a pretty decent price, and could use his business expertise to make a profit on. He also would have saved the Club he's loved his whole life without denting his *reported* net worth much at all.
I think if Clowes wanted the Club for himself indefinitely, he would have entered the game a lot sooner. But he's in because Derby County dying is simply not an option, and if spending a portion of his wealth on us for a couple of years whilst we heal is the price it costs, then I think he's only doing what 95% of us would also do if we had his level of wealth.

Given the machine-like efficiency DC is showing in ticking the boxes, I'd not be surprised if those conversations were already underway. I'm pleasantly surprised at how swiftly things are now moving ?

Now will everyone shut up about Mike Ashley. The statement clearly says that 'the offer also provides the best return for creditors and ensures that there will be no further points penalties.' Ashley supposedly has all this cash so if he truly wanted the club so much he would have been the preferred bidder ages ago.

You must have @Boycie on ignore then.

Feck off then.

I dont like onions

I didn't realise how much this was affecting me. I was convinced I wasn't that bothered. I've lost my grandmother last week and have other issues and thought there were more important things in life.
I'm not too ashamed or masculine to admit that after reading those Clowes press release snippets on Twitter, I realised my eyes had welled-up a little and I have let out a massive sigh. I now want to have a celebratory drink and put this nightmare behind me.
I am however realistic enough to know that the football side could well be a struggle for a few years, and I have no expectations, but to know that my home-city club, a club I followed home and away for most of my adult life, a club that I committed thousands of pounds to over the years, a club that has made me laugh, smile, groan and sob, will continue to exist means a lot to me personally.
Cheers boys and girls.

Liam at training

Yeah but I don't fancy a spell in League 2

Quick bit of research yields the following:
The combined cash at bank value for all businesses where DAVID CLOWES holds a current appointment equals £30m, a combined total current assets value of £536m with a total current liabilities of £137m and a total current net worth of £346m. My guess would be that while David is the front man, the new owners will effectively be the Clowes family as a whole.
For those already worrying that he / they have insufficient net worth to run a club like Derby, consider the relative wealth of Brentford owner Matthew Benham, a tiny fraction of the Clowes fortune. Consider too that Benham had to borrow £700k to fund the majority shareholding he took when he bought Brentford in 2012. Like Clowes, Benham too, is a lifelong fan of the club he has now established in the Premiership. Not all 'fan-owners' then are of Morris' ilk, so let's be balanced in our thinking. Some may say Benham is an outlier and an anomaly but the facts do not bear out this opinion. My view is rather that he simply adopted a model by which even clubs with modest fan bases can operate without losses AND enjoy success. For interest's sake, some net worth figures for a few Premiership club owners, correct as of 10/2021:
Brentford – Matthew Benham (£3m)
Norwich - Delia Smith and Michael Wynn-Jones (£23m)
Burnley – Mike Garlick (£62m)
Watford – Gino Pozzo (£93m)
Leeds – Andrea Radrizzani (£344m)
If Clowes is successful in his bid, then let's then give the man a chance to show that he intends to run the club in the way it could and should be run. There is absolutely no reason that DCFC can not break even within a few years and then turn a profit from then on. Look at the 30K +++ crowds that turned up towards the end of a post-Covid season with the team nigh on certain to be relegated. There are few clubs in the entire league that would top those numbers and the willingness of the fans to get behind the club, aligned to a measured and analytical approach to recruitment, can prove to be the cornerstones upon which a resurgent Derby County can be built. Our support was the absolute envy of the League last season, despite 3 years of ever gathering gloom and ill conceived hostility from outsiders who chose to hate before they thought. Let's not forget that. Equally, let's be respectful to and supportive of the players who ran through walls for us, even those who now choose move to pastures new. We should be, and I believe most are, grateful for what was a herculean effort from a team where a good few were earning a fraction of the wages they could command elsewhere and all played week in, week out under immense levels of pressure and uncertainty. They gave us all they had and IMO, they now owe us nothing.
Let's also look out for each other; I've tried to remain calm and upbeat throughout the last couple of years as have most, but the strain of the last few months has understandably stretched nerves to breaking point. A lot of us have expressed anger and lashed out and I'm one of them, but the truth is that lashing out at those around the process, or worse still, at other fans, serves literally no purpose. I should know better.
As we now look to the future then, akin to most fans, I suspect, I remain concerned that this may prove yet another false dawn, but this does have a rather different feel about it. We will know by this time next week whether the deal has legs, at which point we can hopefully once again begin to dream about a more positive future for the club, the fans and the wider community. In essence, the healing process can begin. Of course I am hugely biased in my view, but it's something I strongly believe; there is something quite unique and special about this club of ours, even in the darkest of times. They say that it's always darkest before the dawn and I'm sure I can see some narrow slithers of light ahead and this for the first time in several years. Perhaps a bright and beautiful new dawn will follow, perhaps something less than that, but let's try to be present, upbeat and supportive and not simply look to others. We have a huge role to play if we choose to accept it and these next few years could be some of the best in long while if we temper our expectations and rediscover the unity and passion we showed when times were hardest.

Cheers Nostradamus ?

Ashley: So what's the latest on my bid then. Those Bamfords at Quantuma still haven't called me...
Accountant: Yours is still the lowest offer Mike
Ashley: Yeah but I've got £50 mill in the bank
Accountant: So do other parties though Mike and the bid stands at £54 million
Ashley: Do they not know who I am?
Accountant: I'm pretty certain they do Mike. Maybe that's the issue...
Ashley: I'm Mike f****** Ashley and I vom where I want...
Accountant: Indeed you do Mike. What are my instructions then?
Ashley: To buy me Derby f****** County you thick t*** and sharpish...
Accountant: As I said Mike, you'll need to increase your offer...
Ashley: Yeah, yeah, I heard you. I'm fat, not stupid! Tell them they can have £51 million and I won't charge myself rent for 10 years. And tell them I'll let them call the stadium the Super Duper Mike Ashley Sports Direct Stadium of Awesome Dreams. Nice ring to it, that! Oh, and no charge for the stadium re-brand but only if they sign today. (Wanders off chanting) One Mike Ashley, there's only one Mike Ashley, one Mike Aaaaaaassshleeyy....

I'll welcome Ashley if he gets the club but f*** me, he's annoying! 
I'm sick to death of his game playing, he's clearly an intelligent business man so surely he understands that just continually telling everyone that he has £50m 'waiting' to complete the takeover, does not get the job done. He is a multi-billionaire so of course he has that kind of money sitting about, but unless he puts that down on the table he just looks like a buffer.
If he wants to buy the club, and if he wants it in anything other than a desolate state, walk into Quantumas office tomorrow, slap £10m on the table and tell them that they can have the other £40m next week if they just give him the go ahead.
OK that's over simplified but my point is, IF YOU WANT THE f****** CLUB, JUST BUY IT!

All hail the new George Thorne!

I think were already at the top of Everest with just a willy warmer 

Apart from a full stop on your second sentence, it seems.

Ed Dawes has been abducted by the same people who took Chris kirchners money. I’m onto them and for that reason it’s likely they will come for me next. I only have so much time - the secret to completing Derby’s takeover is behind th

Rooney took the photo

People are really getting upset that Lawrence is playing golf with Kirchner? As far as we understand, Kirchner was the person who paid the wages last month - in that case why would any of the players have animosity towards him? 
Honestly, how far down the rabbit hole do you have to be in order to give a toss who Lawrence, a player who 100% won't be here next season, is playing golf with? 
He could be playing the Islamic State open for me and I wouldn't bat an eyelid.  

About time we had some #ITK information on this thread

This.
Rick Parry will be desperate not to be blamed if we go under. He is personally responsible for his failure to deal with Gibson's spurious claim. Cowardly and unprofessional behaviour which will never be forgiven.

Today was the day of the virtual London marathon (and the real one) and this little legend was at the finish line for me ☺️