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Shipley Ram

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  1. 9 minutes ago, jimbo jones said:

    Missed it again, so I don’t know how difficult it was, but the sheer number of drops in the slips in concerning.

    better news is Lakmal is finally getting reward for good bowling with 3 quick wickets. Glamorgan still trailing - just - with one wicket remaining

    It was straighforward, I've just got in from the shops and the first ball I see is the final wicket, Lakmal gets skyed and Masood is under it.

  2. 37 minutes ago, maxjam said:

    Who is Gibson gonna have a vendetta against this year for their annual collapse?

    I will be writing to Gibson if they finish 7th, saying how funny it was that while he was pursuing Derby for events that were so 2019 he missed that he was having his FFP pants pulled down by another club this season.

  3. 2 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

    I quite want Burnley to stay up over Everton mostly because Burnley are not particually marketable for sky sports / the premier league and also because everton spent a lot of money on being this bad.

    I'd prefer they both hit some form and send Leeds down, because Leeds.

  4. 50 minutes ago, Elwood P Dowd said:

    If there is one thing that really rankles me about, our soon to be former owner, is the none payment of income tax that his company, Derby County, collected from the players but did not pass on to HMRC.

    I understand about limited liability and would have had some sympathy if he had been broke and had used the “tax money” to try to save the company however, this wasn't the case.

    I do feel that perhaps a change in the law would be appropriate to ensure that in the future a Director/owner would be personally responsible for the repayment of tax money  which has been collected but not passed onto HMRC.

    HMRC don’t come out of this situation very well either, why did they allow Derby to avoid passing on the collected tax for so long. Yes, you could say it this situation occurred during Covid but I feel Derby’s non payment of Tax was going on some time before Covid stuck.

    Yes Mel behaved in a reprehensible, but legal way with the non payment of bills. It's the way business behave but it shafted Derby county, and a whole load of local business's who may struggle with the repucussions of this. It seems when he realised they had in in for us he decided not to inject any more cash, to borrow for the running costs and not pay bills when he could get away with it. There was an easement from HMRC for Covid which he used to the full.

    The way you are looking at the collection from the player is wrong he my opinion, they appear on the wage slips as deductions yes but in reality the company pays both the wages and taxes, it wasn't taking money and not forwarding it but not paying a bill. I don't think a change to the liability law as you suggest would be on the cards.

  5. 2 hours ago, Abu Derby said:

    Then Mel wasn’t as clever then; he was tried and proven guilty. 

    I don't think it was Mel's cleverness that was the problem, as other have remarked creative accouting practices are rife in football and the rest of the business world, and most could be brought to book with the right sort of investigation. Mel failed on the PR front, he pi**ed of the wrong people and we got witch hunted. It ended with the EFL determined to see us relegated  when it was clear the IDP look at the the evidence and had no such view.

    What worries me is the EFL might still have it in for us despite Mels departure, and give us a business plan for the next three years devised to make us uncompetitive.

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