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Admin just shared a clip of Washington back on the grass to make us feel better…. I take back all my calls for patience earlier, grab the torches and pitchforks gang! 💔 

I wouldn't pay 1mil to own Smith let alone 1mil to borrow him for 6 months good lord 😳

I understand plan C is in operation 
Niall Ennis on loan to the end of the season 
Ward looking very likely to be leaving on loan 
Smith and Gregory - not coming - Wednesday apparently wanted 100% wages + 1m loan fee for smith - 50% + 150k for Gregory 

Never heard of him never seen him play and another massive gamble on another teams mainly injured player 
I hope he does fantastic for us and at 28 he needs to with a career of doing ok at FGR 
let’s see who leaves tomorrow - Smith? Fornah ? Bird ?

Wouldn’t you rather Brown? Give our own players a go

Which would be another dissapointing signing when Brown has a better strike rate than him at U21 level this season. It's similar to us signing White last season, which resulted in Thompson deciding it was best for him to go out on loan.

Last season, par would have been the playoffs and we failed. This season par is automatic promotion. The playoffs would be failure, even if we still managed to scramble up (in which case the failure is not considered too bad). 
To "slide out of the playoffs" this year would be catastrophic. 

I think my main issue with the way the club are now blaming restrictions is that in the summer they said that we were free from restrictions and would be monitored against a business plan.
What is the difference between operating under restrictions and operating under a plan designed to keep within restrictions?
I think the club have put themselves in a daft position here by not being clear on the comms with the fans. 
Between the message the club put out in the summer and Warne saying he wanted to add to the squad in Jan I don't think the fans can be blamed for expecting more.

Willing to see what he can do, but sounds like more of another puts a shift in midfielder as opposed to a technical player. Our midfield issues aren’t going to be resolved by running around more…
That said, if he comes in we change the system allowing the likes of Bird and Hourihane to do the better bits of football I can’t see why he won’t improve us.
11 games played in 2 seasons is obviously pretty concerning, even if his injury was a freak one. His last full season was 2 years ago at league 2, which again is concerning. 
Not trying to pile on and be overly negative, but from a realistic standpoint this doesn’t strike me as a player we’ve scouted for a while and he’s a massive gamble both ability and fitness wise.
Hopefully he adds a bit of something in the middle, and at minimum he’s another body in for the run in to cover injuries.

Willing to see what he can do, but sounds like more of another puts a shift in midfielder as opposed to a technical player. Our midfield issues aren’t going to be resolved by running around more…
That said, if he comes in we change the system allowing the likes of Bird and Hourihane to do the better bits of football I can’t see why he won’t improve us.
11 games played in 2 seasons is obviously pretty concerning, even if his injury was a freak one. His last full season was 2 years ago at league 2, which again is concerning. 
Not trying to pile on and be overly negative, but from a realistic standpoint this doesn’t strike me as a player we’ve scouted for a while and he’s a massive gamble both ability and fitness wise.
Hopefully he adds a bit of something in the middle, and at minimum he’s another body in for the run in to cover injuries.

Typical derby recruitment department from the last 10 years. In the summer go in for Marvin Johnson to be messed about in wages etc. have a look at smith and get the same. Up comes January we spend nearly the whole of January looking for a striker. Send in a loan bid the week before the deadline to none other than Sheffield Wednesday again. Agree to pay wages and then get messed around saying they want a loan fee. Instead of moving and having a really good look around we again stick the satnav on to Yorkshire again to the same club and ask for the other striker and get messed around in wages. Ohh and Rotherham where we had Washington from also hail from Yorkshire. 
 
do we literally scout Yorkshire only or has warne give up the coffee machine for Yorkshire tea 

With the current situation at the club it should have been a natural reaction to blood some youngsters. Not given any a chance to show what they can do in the first team apart from Brown's 5 minutes here and there. They would get more patience from the crowd if given this chance. 
We know that the current set up with Bird and Hourihane in midfield isnt really working but, if one was dropped and replaced by robinson who is more of a combative midfieder then it would appear that warne is addressing the situation. 
Older journeymen with injury records aint the answer. 

Our approach since the takeover has been incredibly short-term from a first team point of view. Clowes hired Warne on his ability to get teams out of league one, nothing more, and got rid of a very promising coach to facilitate that move. 
I understand that some of the transfers have needed to be short-term, but if we aren’t promoted this season then I would endeavour him reconsider his own approach. 
I’m in no doubt we would be in a much better shape, in almost every single aspect, had we gone with Rosenior - who was already well respected within the building, recruited really well despite strict budgets and had shown a lot of promise. The move isn’t unsurprising for a new owner of a club, who went for the CV of a manager who had ‘been there and done it’ over a guy who had a lot of promise.
For the record, I don’t blame him and I (with a lot of people) could see the logic but in hindsight I don’t think it was right. We don’t get to see what happens behind the scenes but I think this Mark Thomas has also been a big waste of money, or at least isn’t having an impact, because the recruitment has been poor. We’ve probably made Sonny Bradley the highest paid player in the division and dropped him after a couple of games - a long list of them with injury records have unsurprisingly spent the season injured. It’s a massive mess, whether that’s down to Thomas or Warne, I’m not sure, but certainly no creative approach has been taken. We almost exclusively signed players with Championship experience in the summer, deciding on paying out bigger wages for players on the downswing of their careers, over properly researching and scouting players on the upswing of their career. 
You also have a coaching staff who aren’t really recognised with coaching players, so maybe the short-term, experienced professional approach we take is because we can’t trust these guys to coach up players in the first place? I don’t know. Either way you look at it, I don’t think it’s a setup for a successful football club. 

Still can't really understand how come Clowes gets in new 'reputable' Academy staff, but chased after Warne as first team manager. 
Whilst I really didn't want to watch two seasons in league 1, we were meant to be rebuilding. And whatever some people think he's not making the most of our older Academy players either. 
Be glad when the window is shut.
#COYR

Boro's Rogers was actually a £1.5m signing in the summer. Similar situation as Whittaker signing for Plymouth and now being linked with £10m+ moves. There's a common theme with the clubs selling young players for a lot of money - they have 'modern coaches' who have faith in playing youngsters. 
The market for Championship players used to be only PL clubs, but that market initially slowed down around Covid. However, clubs from Europe (Germany and Italy in particular) are now starting to take greater interest, in the hope of churning a massive profit to PL clubs in the future.
Young players prefer signing for clubs with modern coaches, and the club trust them more with their players. Carrick is a great example. This season alone he's signed Rogers, van den Berg, Azaz, Greenwood and Thomas. Rosenior has signed Philogene, Connolly, Carvalho, Delap, Twine and Morton

What is the point in our scouting department? What do they actually do all year?

Find it incredibly frustrating that Fornah and Ward are being linked with leaving.
Warnes signings (mostly) haven’t shown much of anything to improve us, and if we’re already looking at letting two of them go 6 months after signing then surely we need to be asking big questions of Warne and the recruitment team again? 

Warne really didn’t bring Washington in ‘in desperation’. He bought him previously for Rovrum and he bought him again because he obviously rates him. He was his striker pick. Frankly he was, and always will be, a very poor choice.
There is no point buying a holding midfielder if Warne wants to persist with his tactics. It’s like buying a caravan for a Porsche Boxster.
If we had a decent alternative coach I would be fully behind getting another midfielder in, but not sure it would be a holding type. One who could pass forward and run with some intensity creating in the middle would be ideal.
 

Find it incredibly frustrating that Fornah and Ward are being linked with leaving.
Warnes signings (mostly) haven’t shown much of anything to improve us, and if we’re already looking at letting two of them go 6 months after signing then surely we need to be asking big questions of Warne and the recruitment team again? 

Find it incredibly frustrating that Fornah and Ward are being linked with leaving.
Warnes signings (mostly) haven’t shown much of anything to improve us, and if we’re already looking at letting two of them go 6 months after signing then surely we need to be asking big questions of Warne and the recruitment team again? 

Find it incredibly frustrating that Fornah and Ward are being linked with leaving.
Warnes signings (mostly) haven’t shown much of anything to improve us, and if we’re already looking at letting two of them go 6 months after signing then surely we need to be asking big questions of Warne and the recruitment team again? 

Find it incredibly frustrating that Fornah and Ward are being linked with leaving.
Warnes signings (mostly) haven’t shown much of anything to improve us, and if we’re already looking at letting two of them go 6 months after signing then surely we need to be asking big questions of Warne and the recruitment team again? 

I’d rather send him to that other team for zilch than let Wycombe have absolutely any benefit from us.

He has to take a share of the responsibility because if he is telling them to get the ball out wide or up the pitch as quickly as possible the players are required to attempt riskier passes in to contested areas of the pitch more frequently.
The tactical setup is the reason we have chaotic pinball matches. 
Now, I agree that the players are executing poorly, but that just compounds the issues with the tactical setup.

Relative to the league we are in, yes. Warne has a squad that is as good as, if not better than they had relative to the league they were in.
The idea that Warne is some impoverished coach with no resources and a begging bowl is utter nonsense. Our wage bill (even on our business plan), pulling power as a club (purely on size), facilities etc eclipse the rest of the division with maybe one or two exceptions.
We are currently less than the sum our parts and ultimately the buck stops with the manager.