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What’s available? Or what’s available on our budget?
There’s better forwards available and by the sounds of it they would take less to buy than the fees we got for Knight alone, let alone Knight and Bielik.
I appreciate I don’t know all the inner workings of our current financial situation but I do find it strange, and even a bit frustrating, that we seem to be once again largely unable to spend money on new signings.

I was so pleased when he left. Hated the points squandered by his poor finishing. At the death he had one good game for us, but for me it's not enough. Nowhere near. I don't get the calls to bring failed players back so they can fail for us again. I'd hope we could find someone better.

You have to question what on earth this Mark Thomas, recruitment fella, has been brought in for?
For us to then bring Waghorn back.
Waghorn for me was a Johnny Russell that you ordered from Wish.

It’s a bit farcical that Waghorn plays in a testimonial and then Derby realise he might be worth a punt. He’s been a free agent for weeks. Why didn’t we invite him in then? It’s no secret what he offers as a player. I thought Warne/recruitment had a list and went through the list one by one. For me, it’s not a great sign for our recruitment team. 
I’m not against Waghorn signing, but the process seems bizarre and without much planning. 

Think he comes across as a great bloke, and absolutely gave his all for us at times, especially that Wednesday game. 

However, if this is where we’re at in terms of signing attacking players it’s a pretty scathing insight to our recruitment at the minute.
I’d be absolutely fine with him as a 4th choice option, but with Washington yet to feature in a friendly, he’d be our 2nd choice going into the start of the season.
To say we needed another good striking option even before we lost Mcgoldrick, it’s really not looking all that promising going into this season. Obviously there’s still a few weeks left to bring players in, but it’s unlikely to be anyone of any real top quality is it? 

Be pretty disappointed if our front 3 going into this season are Collins, Washington and Rhodes. 
If we’ve had since about September last year to come up with ideas and these are the best we can do, then on paper it’s not great is it? 
 
Would it kill the club to do more overseas scouting? They don’t always work out, but most of our UK based signings don’t either. At least there’d be an element of the unknown. 

The comparison between Rhodes and McGoldrick’s scoring records is a bit ridiculous. Didzy had scored 8 goals in a premier league season just two years before joining us. Rhodes hasn’t hit 8 in the championship since 2016. 

Our recruitment has been the same every season for years and years, we always balls up on the last piece of the jigsaw and I was really hoping this season would be different.
Igor Stimac demanded Derby make a signing that make us European contenders and we signed Lars Bohinen. 
Why recruit a supposed top recruiter guy to then chase players out of Mel Morris' little back book of players he loves.
Henri Lanabury anyone? is Michail Antonio old enough yet?

Be pretty disappointed if our front 3 going into this season are Collins, Washington and Rhodes. 
If we’ve had since about September last year to come up with ideas and these are the best we can do, then on paper it’s not great is it? 
 
Would it kill the club to do more overseas scouting? They don’t always work out, but most of our UK based signings don’t either. At least there’d be an element of the unknown. 

Seems to be that’s a ridiculous situation to leave ourselves in when he lost his place last season through not being remotely good enough. 

I think people are entitled to feel a bit underwhelmed at us being linked to yet another 30 something journeyman forward. We are pouring money into the club via season ticket sales etc, we are apparently no longer under embargo and we’ve just sold Knight so surely there is enough finance to make it viable to sign someone relatively young and with a decent scoring record. Without investment up front of this kind I honestly don't think we’ll trouble the top six next season; we simply don’t have enough quality goal scorers. 

Oh dear. The players we are being linked with now is a degree of desperation.

I’m by no means twitching. But if we finish out our recruitment with more old players after Warne has repeatedly said about the age of the squad I will be annoyed. Youngest outfield player we have signed is 27 in Ward. We need more pace, not an ancient  poacher who doesn’t really poach anymore. 

Not in the last 7 seasons though. Crap footballer small old and slow. Don’t get this one. I get Washington because he can run behind and stretch teams/create space for others.

With all due respect there's absolutely no comparison between them. McGoldrick offers ten times the amount Rhodes does in overall play.
Rhodes is and always has been nothing but a goal hanger. At one time an excellent one, but here's little sign he still has that now he's older and slower 
His contribution to build up play and creating chances for others is poor. He isn't a good footballer. I don't think he's even known a hard worker either (?) which confuses me further.
Historically yes he's scored goals, lots of them, in teams who have set themselves up to provide goalscoring chances almost exclusively for him. 
He's the epitome of the type of player I've always hope don't sign as our 'main man' - that said if we did sign him purely as someone to throw on late in games with the vain hope he might get a goal...  well he might get some goals, not many, but potentially some important ones.
He might be OK played in a two if the rest of the team are good enough to compensate for the fact they'd basically be playing with 10 men for the majority of time he's on the pitch 

His pace and energy would look discernibly better if I was pushing him around in a wheelbarrow.

If we end up with Collins, Rhodes and Washington after Warne's 'three good strikers' comment...
With the likes of May and Smith gone to promotion rivals, I'd like to think we have someone better up our sleeve than Rhodes for that third striker spot.

Why can’t we find a striker no one has heard of?
Especially with this recruitment guy who is supposed to be so highly rated? 
Just journeyman old strikers being linked.
No imagination.

Am finding it so depressing that every striker we’re linked with is over 30.
out squad doesn’t feel any younger or quicker than last year. We’ve lost knights energy so far. 
these were all the excuses given as to why ended the season so poorly. 

Mel literally pulled the plug just as we started to produce the product he was creating. He was literally about to see the academy shine in the first team in the championship and then make profit on those players when they move on. Unfortunately for him and more importantly us, we sold some fantastically talented youth products for peanuts 

I think for the most part the only people  actually using the term "hoofball" are those doing so in order to defend Warne, misrepresenting what's actually being said by those have cast a more critical eye on his style. Creating something to argue against which isn't even being said.
It's a bit like when people would pre-empt others' criticisms of Keogh by claiming that they were still blaming him for / bringing up his mistake at Wembley. It must have been brought up 20x more by people defending him than anyone else.
Hoofball would to me be lumping it up to a target man and looking for flick-ons rather than playing long passes to people in space or putting in lots of crosses. Warne is not a hoofball merchant.
Throughout last season there was indeed some nice football played, but as a trend it only really happened when we were playing against the poorer sides in the division, those who gave us plenty of space. The more competitive mid table teams (Lincoln, Shrewsbury) stopped us playing. If we went a goal down we stopped playing. We didn't see that good play all too often when McGoldrick wasn't playing (although it wasn't exclusively when he did).
I'm sure we'll continue to see the 'neat interchanges' against the poorest sides, but we will be ramping up the percentage of our overall play that's dedicated to getting crosses in, to taking advantage of balls over the top (there's nothing wrong with that, again... not hoofball), to making the most of set pieces. That's simply a fact. We have brought players in to that effect, and at present it doesn't look like we're trying to get anyone in who would provide the finesse that McGoldrick added to our attack.
We'll be more effective, and presumably won't be bullied by teams like Lincoln like we were last season (under both managers), so should be in for a good season regardless of how we play.
The hope is that once this style gets us up (and why shouldn't it?) we go on to 'do a Luton' (their style last season could be seen as the ultimate version of what Warne is looking to achieve), the fear is that we go on to 'do a Rotherham' and end up back where we started.

Nothing wrong with Warne but at least I am yet to see what he can bring to the table regarding results first and foremost. Last season was, even according to him, kind of a failure so I personally can understand why some are a bit hesitant as well as outright critical towards him. Only Warne himself can prove his critics wrong by getting on the field matters right and I am hopeful that he will do so after being able to form his own squad. With that said it really did not look to good last year even when you take into account the difficult circumstances he was working under. Most teams were truly awful footballers but our team somehow managed to be equally bad more often than not. Please just get it to work this season Paul! Fingers crossed!

Cashin one of the only players I'd be genuinely gutted to see go. 

I’ve seen enough of him to know he’s not a player I like.
If Warne does then that’s fine, or if that’s all we can afford on our budget then so be it. More than happy to eat my words if he turns out to be good

Come on, let’s face it, he’s crap. We all know he’s crap. 
However we, and  the whole league, are crap so he might end up being alright. That’s how I will end up viewing it . Welcome to Derby!