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The best time to let him go would have been at the end of last season. 
There have been better times but now isn't a terrible time to let him go. Probably not going to happen but I do think it's likely a mistake persisting with him.

What, you mean bringing in 11 of his own players?

No but it will hinge on results like Wigan and Oxford. 
I refuse to believe we should be getting rolled over by them at home. Oxford especially was a travesty, Warne had the team set up and out there thinking we were coming up against Liverpool or something.

Mel Morris did in fact start our new holding midfielder as a number 10 yesterday and selected NML to play wing back, he also told Josh Vickers to let the ball float over his head and hand picked Sonny Bradley as our new marquee defender.

Mel was awful in the circumstances. But the number one cause of our plight is FFP. If that never came into light, we wouldn’t have needed to try and get around the rules to financially compete with parachute payment clubs.
I’m not a fan of Mel. But on the face of it, all he did was plough loads of his own money into the club he loved and naively thought that would be enough to get us promoted. 
The way we spent the money was just ridiculous. Clueless. But was that Mel’s fault or those spending his money?
When you look at the spend in today’s market. How do you spend £25m+ in fees like we did in 2015/16 and actually get worse? I’m convinced Derby, Everton and Man Utd are the three worst spenders in English football over the past decade. 

Well I enjoyed the day out at Bolton (well, a few miles away from Bolton), my first visit to that stadium. Good stadium, setup, home fans were very vocal. Seemed quiet in the away end. Lots of bars and restaurants in the area.
Positives from the game were that I thought we defended really well when under the cosh for long periods, and it took a fluke goal to beat us. Defenders were solid and Vickers made what looked like from the other end a couple of very good saves. I heard some criticism on the radio about players not putting a shift in - from my angle they all gave it 100%. Forsyth and Nelson had good games. Bradley did well other than his ricket. Thought Hourihane had a decent enough game. Fornah looked terrible first half out of position but much better when he was moved back. This is, of course, all in the context of the match and how were set up, if indeed we were set up in any particular way.
I was impressed with how Evatt set Bolton up, they played good football. They lacked a killer edge and looked a little ropey at the back on the odd occasion we tested them, which doesn't quite put them in the Plymouth/Ipswich bracket from last season, but they're a good side who will be up there. 
Referee: As some of you know I ref at county league level so may (or may not) be able to offer some insight. He's got the first big decision of the game wrong - he's decided Elder is fouled but given where Derby are should have waited a couple of seconds and given the goal. He's blown far too early and luckily we scored the penalty.
I think that has clearly influenced the way he managed the Wildsmith incident as this time instead of blowing up as soon as he saw the handball he has  waited to see if the Bolton players scores into an empty net. As soon as he doesn't, he blows for the foul. Having indicated a foul, he has made up his mind and the red can come out there as it's deliberate handball stopping an obvious goalscoring opportunity (DOGSO). Given that it's such a big decision, he has a word with his assistant, and he'll be asking him whether he saw anything that would change his mind. If, as it turned out, the assistant couldn't say one way or the other, the ref sticks with his decision. It was actually good refereeing.
Their penalty. Only VAR could say whether it was in or out of the box. We don't have VAR and it looked to me and everyone around me that it was a penalty, so it's hard to criticise too much. 
Derby penalty appeals in the second half: The "handball" when the player is falling over and the ball hits his hand is not handball. The rules clearly state that if a player is putting an arm out to stabilise himself and its not deliberate, then it's not handball. The potential penalty when NML tangles with their number 5 was 50/50 - it was both players fighting for the ball but the defender did have his arm at neck height on NML so maybe. But I felt the one on Bradley was an absolute stonewall. Defender not looking at the ball as it comes across and just hauls him to the ground. It was a far more blatant foul than the one we got the peno for. So poor refereeing. 
Derby - tactically shambolic. No notable shape or patters of play. Players looked like they weren't sure who was meant to be where. I get why Warne put Bradley on ahead of Cash. I was frustrated second half as we were on the ropes and both Warne and Barker were sitting down and we had no-one standing and organising/encouraging etc. Putting JJ on at the end and not putting him through the middle up against their lumbering number 5, who was always the last man in a 3 and had already been booked, was criminal.
There is a clear pattern emerging this season against teams that play football and I'm afraid there was nothing in that game, against one of the promotion front runners, that convinced me Warne is up to the task. Equally, he is being hamstrung by injuries and yesterday we didn't get the rub of the green, although we certainly could have helped ourselves with some organisation, composure and some time spent in possession of the football. Warne isn't going to suddenly change his mantra, we can only hope though it is more effective when we have a fully fit squad, if that ever happens.   
Sorry, that was a much longer post that I'd anticipated!

He did win the Dutch 1st division against Ajax and psv. Also assistant coach when Man Utd won it all. 

Pretty poor tactics if that's the case because he got them 15/20 yards further up the pitch each time. Imho if we'd have actually pressed him there is a good chance we'd have won the ball in an advanced position.
I don't recall us putting him under any pressure even after he'd strode forward Beckenbaueresque each time. Now that would have been a good tactic letting him stride forward and then nicking it off whilst he was out of position. Maybe that was the plan but it definitely didn't work. Frustrating all the same giving him such an easy afternoon when he was quite clearly there for the taking. 

If you seriously think Warne is in the same class as Mac as a coach then please just stop right there !
Warne could be given the same players Mac had and you wouldn't see the same type of football we saw under Mac 
The POINT which is very valid is, regardless of the so called blood sweat and tears that you mention Clough did not get us playing how Mac did , so therefore Mac takes a lot of credit for being able to coach that and of course Clough should take credit for assembling the squad
The players we had when Rosenior was here were because Rosenior wanted us to play possesion type football so why bring in a manager who doesn't  want to continue or enhance that ....
I don't trust Warne to bring in the players to get us back to playing some decent entertaining stuff so lets just leave it there eh 

Do you think Warne is making signings for 4-5 years in the future? 
Who are the players he has signed who are the foundation of this future squad? 
I think Warne was brought in as a promotion expert and everything he is doing screams short-term results. Only he isn't getting the short-term results. 
It's true everything takes time. Given enough time some things get slower better. But, equally, given enough time some things get slowly worse. The key thing for fans is that we can see some signs of progress to give us confidence things are getting slowly better, not slowly worse. I am not seeing that at the moment. 
You could say - about any manager starting at a club in relative disarray - that they need time to get where they want to be, and given time they will do so. Sometimes that will be right. But often it will be wrong.  So the question is whether we are on the right path. What are the signs that we are? Is it the players that have been brought in under Warne? Coherent tactics that will clearly deliver results, if only we get the right blend of players? I don't see any of that.
Nigel Pearson could claim that if only he'd been given more time his vision would have become clear and everything would have been great. Maybe that's true. But based on the evidence we could see, probably it wasn't. We were right to move on. 
I hope Warne comes good but he needs to show something better and soon 

I didn't go and I didn't listen but if he played NML as a wing back he's dead to me.  I mean did he really do that - it's mental.   

I think the frustration is in inexplicable decisions. Would anyone here have played Fornah as a number 10? NML as a wing back? Bradley instead of Cashin after Rooney’s awful injury? 
There just seems to be some really simple fixes and I am mystified as to why they aren’t made when seem so obvious. That’s before you get into in game tactics and the failure to react. Why did we give them so much time and space? They were vulnerable at the back so why not set up to attack them?
Frustrating and I can’t see an end to it. I won’t get on to what I think of Elder and Bradley.
On the plus side - Fozzy gets better and better, Nelson did OK and John-Jules is better than what we had. And we won’t have that ref again for a while - hopefully. 
 
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Mac looked at the players we had, and found their strengths. He then worked out how to make best use of those strengths. That's a top coach in my eyes. He didn't need transfer windows to get his kind of players in. It's a very different approach to many coaches today, which is surprising given how little time many are given.

Warne hasn't had the same impact as he hasn't got anywhere near the man management talent or tactical nous within match play.  It's fairly straightforward to me and isn't likely to change.

He also said the key was too press on the huge lump at the back to stop him moving into midfield in his post match. Something obvious that I noticed from minute 3.  Our manager didn't inexplicably.

I still refuse to buy the idea that Rosenior’s squad was just some random bunch of players chucked together with no real thought.  Obviously it was put together under unusual circumstances etc, but it was absolutely a squad that was built with 433/4231 possession-based football in mind.
McClaren succeeded because the squad he was given fit with the way he wanted his team to operate (you can debate whether it was McClaren adapting to fit what he was given, or a good appointment to fit what we had etc).  Warne is struggling because the squad he was given do not fit with what he is trying to do, he is unable to adapt to fit it, and he is struggling to change the squad to fit what he wants (financial restrictions etc).
The length of time it took to build the squad really doesn’t matter that much, it’s whether the manager is using what he has well or not.  Warne is currently not.  You can argue whether that’s Warne’s fault, or a bad decision to appoint him in the first place.

Mac got us playing fantastic attacking football almost immediately and that continued regardless of what players we put out or brought to the club. 

i was far from convinced with the peterborough win. They scored 2 goals, hit the bar, and had one cleared off the line i think, with numerous other chances. On another day we concede 4/5 goals easily. The goals we scored were somewhat fortunate themselves. One was from a deflected cross, one worldie from waghorn, one p-roller that gets flicked and wrong foots their GK, and a set piece which their GK probably should have saved.  None of them really have any pattern of play, they are all just moments. We play mainly without the ball and have no style or tactical aspects to our game. There are much smaller clubs in this division with worse players that play far superior football to us. You can't deny that outside of the initial manager bounce we have gradually just regressed under warne. 

It didn't take Mac 4 to 5 years to get us playing nice stuff ?
He took over a side that was predominantly possesion type players the same Warne did , the difference is Mac tweaked it and got us scoring more and playing better.
Warne has come in and not got us playing better, this is my point, why appoint a manager who doesn't play similarly to what we had in our squad, nothing wrong with getting us fitter but I still think a good manager/coach who likes to play football on the grass would've got this team firing and what i mean by that is...playing more cohesively and controlling games more.
We are no more in control of a game whether playing Bolton a top side in this division or a Fleetwood who aren't 

I agree with this.  Could forgive Clowes anything as our rescuer but was upset at Warne replacing LR.  I did expect to be proved wrong until we reached the Championship when Warne would be found out.  But looking at us and Hull this season is making me feel justified and completely miserable.

This isn't a Derby County I want to watch. I will of course as we all do but I want to see progressive fast fluid accurate passing by good footballers. 
I looked at our passing stats for this season and quite honestly they are appalling. 
I'm forever in the debt of David Clowse for saving the club but it looks like he has cocked up with Warne to me. He's looking like a one trick pony. 

I'm just bored of us setting up like we're a Conference team playing against Man City in the FA Cup third round against everyone we play. 
With the resources at our disposal we should be looking to slap most of the teams in this division up, it won't always work of course but that should be the intent. As it stands we're meekly heading in to games on the back foot letting our opposition, no matter how good, dictate the pace.
We need to get a grip and remember who we are. We can't arrogantly assume we'll win every game but I'd love someone to explain to me why we are limping in to games in League One not knowing if we're good enough to compete. It should be a given.

Seen enough of Warne to know he is Sunday League. His tactics might work at the Dog & Duck or Rotherham but not here. 
Im not even sure any of his summer signings improve our best 11 

bUt wE pAsSeD tHe bAlL aRoUnD sIdEwAyS tOo mUcH
Rosenior's Hull side won away at Leicester today & now sit in the top 6. This club's relentless ability to self sabotage never fails to disappoint.
I suspect his replacement will be hanging around for most of this season whilst we wind down his contract, hoping we can bludgeon our way out of this division. If Sonny Bradley is his way of utilising the budget wisely though, I don't want him trusted with anymore club money. Give Mark Thomas full control of incomings & tell Warne to either work with the players or leave. 

Previously I said he needs a full season, because under Mel so many knee jerks led to bits and pieces squads with cast offs from other managers all over.
Head tells me this should still be the case, but I’ve never been so fed up with our style, Warne makes Rowett look like Klopp. He’s like a P.E. Teacher and running them into the ground with little purpose some games. 
 
This squad should be up there, but our master tactician is going to be the biggest obstacle to success I fear.