Mick Harford

Nowadays it's a flat fee for appearances (on top of the development fee, will be round about £400,000), if he makes 10 apps for Man City then we get an additional £150,000, further payments up to 100 apps, which if he made it we would get circa £7m in total for him. I'd argue that £7m for someone good enough to make 100 Prem appearances is chicken feed.
However the PL essentially said when they pushed for EPPP that if the EFL clubs didn't vote for it then they'd stop or greatly reduce solidarity payments. Not a fan of the system at all as like mots things it rewards those at the top. That said as a youngster you have to look after yourself really, so I don't blame the kids more the system.

I don't mind Appleby or Glick but Sam Rush and his Wasserman business can stay well away thank you. 

I noticed that yesterday as well, also on the Guardian btl section, quite refreshing to see some fans realising that us Rams fans have suffered from something that was totally beyond our control as normally, as you say, it's variations of 'you deserve it' 'disgusting club' and Leeds fans having a go at Frank Lampard.
I should turn the other cheek, but I am a petty and vindictive man, so am quite looking forward to some other clubs getting shafted due to their owners actions in the coming years.

I noticed that yesterday as well, also on the Guardian btl section, quite refreshing to see some fans realising that us Rams fans have suffered from something that was totally beyond our control as normally, as you say, it's variations of 'you deserve it' 'disgusting club' and Leeds fans having a go at Frank Lampard.
I should turn the other cheek, but I am a petty and vindictive man, so am quite looking forward to some other clubs getting shafted due to their owners actions in the coming years.

Northern Irish lad, Darren Robinson I believe
 

Northern Irish lad, Darren Robinson I believe
 

Well some big revelations today. Notably the losses were considerably more than we had been led to believe and upon restating the accounts in line with the way the EFL want them doing (not going to say rules as there’s still nothing in the rule book to say it should be straight-line) and the rest of the league comply with we incurred multiple points breaches in excess of the 9 we’ve been given. In other words we’ve got off lightly it could’ve been worse, not that it really makes any difference now. 
 
Are the EFL vindicated? Absolutely not. Doesn’t change the fact they’ve allowed a competition that is grossly unfair with parachute payments and allowing bigger losses for those clubs, brought in P&S rules that are vague in some parts, complex in others and don’t really protect the integrity of the league, they don’t punish clubs who are promoted, they allow the additional dodgy practices of Wolves’ Mendes deal and use of loan system and deferring payments to essentially make top half premier league signings, they allow the dodgy practices of Watford and Forest who move players between clubs to dodge FFP. The way they have singled out Derby is a gross hypocrisy, entirely political, vindictive and is in no way about protecting the integrity of the league. If it was they’d be finding ways to go after Wolves Leicester Leeds, they’d have punished Bournemouth again upon relegation, they’d be stopping Forest’s loophole of moving players between clubs and they would be clamping down on Stoke’s dodgy practices around Covid. They are not. They are a joke of an organisation, odious to the core, and an independent regulator is badly needed.
However the EFL is not in any way to blame for our predicament, that honour falls to one man. If he’d stuck around then we might have forgiven him an FFP breach but he plunged us into administration as well and said it was in the best interests of the club. Given what has gone on, given the FFP deal the EFL put on the table to Mel is effectively the one we have now, I can see no benefit to administration other than Mel didn’t want to fund the losses any more caused by his crippling mismanagement and exacerbated by Covid, this when losses now are a great deal smaller than earlier in his stewardship. We are in this because of Mel and Stephen Pearce and no one else. 
We need to take our medicine and rebuild. The critical thing is we get a new owner by Jan as if not we could face a January that will set us back years. Get an owner in, we might be able to bounce back quickly. 
 
Final point on the EFL, will they relinquish the highly restrictive embargo should we get new owners willing to stand behind us? I get retaining it while we’re still in admin but to continue it post takeover is unnecessarily draconian and vindictive. And also, they cited a breach of the 19/20 and 20/21 merged P&S period in the judgement, so will points deductions apply when about half the league fail this accounting period? How can they not with wage bills significantly larger than ours and significant reduced revenue through Covid. 
 
The one positive is our costs are now under much better control, with a buyer, a ground (the last decent thing you can do Mel) and retaining our academy status then we will be in an excellent place to rebuild. But we need that buyer and quickly!!

You may not believe this but Sir David Frost is a Derby lad. I went to school with him and he was a Derby supporter!

Am assuming Sir David Frost led the negotiations.

One thing to remember fellow Rams, as horrible as this is NONE of this is our fault, we did make the decisions, we did not sign people and give out contracts like confetti and although we are the ones being punished we will still be here in years to come even when the others are not.
 
COYR

Every single supporter is completely fed up with the situation and will be gutted if this is true.......but do we really need the constant, never ending Club/Mel/now Administrator bashing??? Really? can't we just mourn the situation TOGETHER, stick TOGETHER and help the Club get back on its feet TOGETHER. 
Some peoples constant need to blame and scapegoat is enough to make anyone say they have had enough and I say that after 53 years of support.

One thing to remember fellow Rams, as horrible as this is NONE of this is our fault, we did make the decisions, we did not sign people and give out contracts like confetti and although we are the ones being punished we will still be here in years to come even when the others are not.
 
COYR

Am assuming Sir David Frost led the negotiations.

Does this mean refs will be allowed to give us penalties now? 

Am assuming Sir David Frost led the negotiations.

One thing to remember fellow Rams, as horrible as this is NONE of this is our fault, we did make the decisions, we did not sign people and give out contracts like confetti and although we are the ones being punished we will still be here in years to come even when the others are not.
 
COYR

One thing to remember fellow Rams, as horrible as this is NONE of this is our fault, we did make the decisions, we did not sign people and give out contracts like confetti and although we are the ones being punished we will still be here in years to come even when the others are not.
 
COYR

I'd have Foukes around the same height as me at 5'11, which unfortunately saw me released at 16, however he is playing for the U23's, essentially a ressies side which shows confidence by the club in him and also a level beyond the lads that were youth keepers at Derby at my age and the year after who were both under 6 foot and didn't grow so never played beyond the U18's.
Most GK coaches I speak with won't really look at ANY keeper under 6 foot, but i still maintain that if the talent is there then give them a chance a lad I know who was released at 15 by Reading went away and did A levels and trained privately with coaches has just been signed by Everton for their Dev sides.

Very much this, we had a keeper called Jon Thompson who was England U16's keeper back in the early 90's, unfortunately never made it past 6 foot so he joined the Royal Navy instead.
Follow this lad and Foukes on twitter, both look to be solid keepers so would be nice to have another Lee GRant/Lee Camp situation.

Very much this, we had a keeper called Jon Thompson who was England U16's keeper back in the early 90's, unfortunately never made it past 6 foot so he joined the Royal Navy instead.
Follow this lad and Foukes on twitter, both look to be solid keepers so would be nice to have another Lee GRant/Lee Camp situation.

EFL scrapping five subs
The EFL is scrapping the five substitutions rule for the 2021/22 campaign.
The rule, allowing clubs to make five changes per game as opposed to the usual three, was brought in upon football's restart in June 2020 following the Covid-enforced break.
So Championship, League One and League Two teams can name seven substitutes but will only be able to use a maximum of three.
Concussion changes will be granted if required, and the Premier League's concussion substitution rules will also remain.
So could be a concussion sub