YorkshireRam

An accurate summary of our current striking options:

An accurate summary of our current striking options:

An accurate summary of our current striking options:

An accurate summary of our current striking options:

An accurate summary of our current striking options:

An accurate summary of our current striking options:

An accurate summary of our current striking options:

There are other factors why we haven't seen as much of the youth.
I get the want to solely pin this on Warne, and his track record doesn't speak volumes to want to use them- leopard, spots, etc. - but it can be hard to shift that mindset when we've tasked him with finding near immediate league success.
A lot of the lads in the u21s were rushed from the u18s as a knock-on from the admin exodus, and have only had half a season at that level. Not only that, but there's been a lot of change in the academy hierarchy. That'll take it's time to settle.
We're still in rebuild mode as a club. Can only use that for so long, yes, but it doesn't exactly scream the most stable environment to safely develop these players - especially when the fans have the expectations that they do right now, can you imagine the reaction if Warne throws in a young player and doing so loses a game?

Yes, I am wondering why you’re going out of your way to criticise him right now. Our only available striker, who is doing his best while wearing a Derby shirt, scoring goals that are helping us win games and you feel it’s important to point out he’s “not right for our club” and criticise him, the mind genuinely boggles as to why you would be choosing to criticise him at all. 
Ah well, if that’s how you choose to be there’s clearly nothing I or anyone else can do to help you see another perspective so I’ll not waste my time further. 

I'd give Gayle a 6 month deal. Solid backup and will probably still have a bit of class about him, also even if Collo stays fit and he barely features, he's got great experience for the younger lads to learn off. 

The good news hinted at last night @MACKWORTHRAM?
 

Sensationalism doesn't change the facts. I've not seen anyone saying anything daft about Collins, certainly not over-praising to the same extent he was vilified and overly-criticised before.
How many chances did he get against Cheltenham? 1... and he scored it. So from our most recent example, this argument falls flat on its face. 
Yes, compared to Messi, he's distinctly mediocre as a footballer. But for the level we're at, and what he's giving to the club, he's been a star this season, and deserves the praise he's getting. 

£2m + Haydon Roberts and Harry Cornick on permanent deals  🤞

Sensationalism doesn't change the facts. I've not seen anyone saying anything daft about Collins, certainly not over-praising to the same extent he was vilified and overly-criticised before.
How many chances did he get against Cheltenham? 1... and he scored it. So from our most recent example, this argument falls flat on its face. 
Yes, compared to Messi, he's distinctly mediocre as a footballer. But for the level we're at, and what he's giving to the club, he's been a star this season, and deserves the praise he's getting. 

£2m + Haydon Roberts and Harry Cornick on permanent deals  🤞

£2m + Haydon Roberts and Harry Cornick on permanent deals  🤞

Sensationalism doesn't change the facts. I've not seen anyone saying anything daft about Collins, certainly not over-praising to the same extent he was vilified and overly-criticised before.
How many chances did he get against Cheltenham? 1... and he scored it. So from our most recent example, this argument falls flat on its face. 
Yes, compared to Messi, he's distinctly mediocre as a footballer. But for the level we're at, and what he's giving to the club, he's been a star this season, and deserves the praise he's getting. 

Who at any point has said he’s the “new Drogba?” It’s like you’re fighting an argument that isn’t there. Which over the top comments have there been? 
All the positives I’ve seen anyone say is that he’s doing a good job for us this season, which meets the standards you’re describing. 
 

It’s interesting because in the Warne out topics you will find others argue till they are blue in the face that McGoldrick and Collins have bailed Warne out.
Yet here we are in another corner of the internet where it’s not the individuals but the team that’s inflating “bog standard” players stats.
Could it not be, Warne is a decent manager at this level, Collins is a decent striker and we have a decent team hence why we find ourselves at the top end of the table fighting for promotion.

2018/19 Collins scored 25 goals at this level for Luton, Didzy's best season was likely 20/21 where he scored 8 in the PL, each goal there is worth 3/4 at this level. 
It's a bizarrely reductionist argument to try and discredit individual achievement. Rather we should be grateful to have had 2 players that are capable of hitting 20+ league goals a season? 

Would definitely prefer to keep Fornah, if it's between the two.

You really do have a strange habit of making even innocuous comments seem like you're trying to sneak an underhanded jibe in 😂

You really do have a strange habit of making even innocuous comments seem like you're trying to sneak an underhanded jibe in 😂

You really do have a strange habit of making even innocuous comments seem like you're trying to sneak an underhanded jibe in 😂

It wasn't, I was being polite.