Eatonram

The massive pressure needs to go on the EFL. They could accept Morris' offer and rule any potential claim from Gibson as non-football at the stroke of a pen opening up the chance of a takeover. 
They could do that now, right this minute. Job done.
Team Derby, MP's and fans have this opening now to force Parry into a correct and fair way out of it all. Its down to him, one man, Rick Parry can give DCFC a fighting chance of survival or he can carry on with his disgraceful vendetta against us.

I have sent another email to the EFL, despite taking yesterday off it’s hard not to let it play on your mind, the more it plays on your mind the more you start to see the bigger picture here and what the EFL mean when they talk about the best interests of the league….
Boro tried to sue the EFL first, Parry confirmed this himself on the Athletic podcast, why did Boro stop those proceedings?
It’s in the EFL’s best interests that Boro are successful in their case against us, why? 
If Boro were to win a legal case against the EFL, where would compensation be paid from? The EFL’s only revenue stream is TV deal, so it would come out the pockets of the clubs, understandable why there is so much silence from other clubs on this.
(Sidenote, we all know that once this is over they will all unanimously vote in new rules that cannot be argued and prevent any kind of legal action.)
If the EFL enforced their own regulations and prevented this action (reg 4.4), or followed insolvency law by ruling they were not football creditors would Boro turn their attentions back on the EFL instead?
When you read the EFL’s “disappointment” when we was cleared on the stadium sale, it’s easy to see why that disappointment would be, found guilty it would have opened the door for Boro to easily claim compensation.
If Derby were to be liquidated, Boro wouldn’t receive a penny of what they believe they are owed, again not a great outcome for the EFL, so what is their best option?…..Try to push Derby into a financial settlement with Boro.
The problem with that is the administrators will simply refuse, their job is to get the best deal for it’s creditors, paying off unproven claims out the creditor pot just isn’t an option for Quantuma despite how much the EFL try to push this.
Clear as day right?
Mel’s offer of taking the legal action on himself is an alternative escape route, one of which the EFL must be desperate to take up now, but can they convince Boro and Wycombe to take this on?
Given we were cleared on the stadium deal, despite the “independent” valuation from the EFL putting Pride Park on par with Fleetwood Towns ground, it’s difficult to see how they could win the case in the high court, especially when Sheffield Wednesday, Reading and Villa all sold their stadiums as well.
Final interesting point, Boro beat Sheffield Wednesday at Hillsborough at the beginning of the season, yet Wednesday went up to the Riverside and beat them 1-0…..a Sheffield Wednesday team that were clearly financially advantaged by selling their stadium right? You could argue those 3 points cost Boro their place in the play offs yet no legal action…..why?
Personal vendetta.
(Now breathe David) 

Absolutely bizarre that the EFL have said they should be defended as football debts without even seeing the cases.
Does anyone actually believe any of the tripe that they come out with?

Until the EFL stated their final position ("football debt") he didn't need to, option A was to cram the claims down to a nominal amount (e.g. £1 each) as part of a restructuring plan.
Option A was finally ruled out by the EFL late last week, so Option B has been triggered.

I had a skim through the EFL Regs today (what else there to do on a Saturday afternoon without football?).  I came across Reg 3.5.


Surely both clubs accusing us of systemic cheating breaches this?  In fact, didn’t Couhig in one of his tweets say every Derby fan was part of this cheating??
And yes, I do need to get out more ?.

The offer of a mediation to a neutral would seem pragmatic and a way forward. But it would achieve absolutely nothing. why? Because Boro and Wycombe will walk away unless they are offered Cash. There is no way this would be about anything other than a way of getting money from the Club or Mel as a price to pay for unblocking admin. There would be no point in arguing the merits of the claim the meeting will only achieve an outcome if there is an offer of cash. An offer of cash would be portrayed as legitimising the claims and the whole cheating accusations would then be said to have been proved. If they were confident of their claim they would accept Mels offer to see them in court. But they won’t. 

They should say absolutely nothing at this stage. And ‘we’ should not be encouraging them to make a statement (not that they will be swayed by fan opinions). If Morris has done one thing he has shone a big media spotlight on both Gibson and the EFL. Quantuma should say nothing until both the other parties have put out their response, which they will be hounded to do early next week by media outlets, MPs, and supporter groups. Once they have made their reply Quantuma can use though replies to their better advantage.

The offer of a mediation to a neutral would seem pragmatic and a way forward. But it would achieve absolutely nothing. why? Because Boro and Wycombe will walk away unless they are offered Cash. There is no way this would be about anything other than a way of getting money from the Club or Mel as a price to pay for unblocking admin. There would be no point in arguing the merits of the claim the meeting will only achieve an outcome if there is an offer of cash. An offer of cash would be portrayed as legitimising the claims and the whole cheating accusations would then be said to have been proved. If they were confident of their claim they would accept Mels offer to see them in court. But they won’t. 

Have Q issued a statement supporting and welcoming MMs offer? If not why not. It seems obvious.

Have Q issued a statement supporting and welcoming MMs offer? If not why not. It seems obvious.

The offer of a mediation to a neutral would seem pragmatic and a way forward. But it would achieve absolutely nothing. why? Because Boro and Wycombe will walk away unless they are offered Cash. There is no way this would be about anything other than a way of getting money from the Club or Mel as a price to pay for unblocking admin. There would be no point in arguing the merits of the claim the meeting will only achieve an outcome if there is an offer of cash. An offer of cash would be portrayed as legitimising the claims and the whole cheating accusations would then be said to have been proved. If they were confident of their claim they would accept Mels offer to see them in court. But they won’t. 

The offer of a mediation to a neutral would seem pragmatic and a way forward. But it would achieve absolutely nothing. why? Because Boro and Wycombe will walk away unless they are offered Cash. There is no way this would be about anything other than a way of getting money from the Club or Mel as a price to pay for unblocking admin. There would be no point in arguing the merits of the claim the meeting will only achieve an outcome if there is an offer of cash. An offer of cash would be portrayed as legitimising the claims and the whole cheating accusations would then be said to have been proved. If they were confident of their claim they would accept Mels offer to see them in court. But they won’t. 

The offer of a mediation to a neutral would seem pragmatic and a way forward. But it would achieve absolutely nothing. why? Because Boro and Wycombe will walk away unless they are offered Cash. There is no way this would be about anything other than a way of getting money from the Club or Mel as a price to pay for unblocking admin. There would be no point in arguing the merits of the claim the meeting will only achieve an outcome if there is an offer of cash. An offer of cash would be portrayed as legitimising the claims and the whole cheating accusations would then be said to have been proved. If they were confident of their claim they would accept Mels offer to see them in court. But they won’t. 

Mel's letter is really well written compared to the Gibson whiny claptrap.

Love Punjabi Rams but really do not like the letter...sorry.

This still smacks of extortion. Mel is obviously now not popular with Rams Fans quite rightly. But he owes Gibson nothing, so why should he pay him anything? If Mel still has the wealth to forgo £7-10 million...why would he give hit to Gibson? The stadium sale is no longer an issue as it was deemed by the EFL to be ok and the valuation to be accurate. What the owner (Mel) does with the stadium is NOTHING to do with Gibson. If he wants to gift it to Derby he can, If he wants to sell at a figure to pay off MSD he can, If he wants to rent it to the new owner he can...it has F All to do with Gibson.

And it will see if Boro have got the balls which I doubt.

Mel's letter is really well written compared to the Gibson whiny claptrap.

Assume someone has already said it so sorry but hope Man U sue MFC for that handball as obviously they would win FACup without it

Mel's letter is really well written compared to the Gibson whiny claptrap.

Mel's letter is really well written compared to the Gibson whiny claptrap.

Mel's letter is really well written compared to the Gibson whiny claptrap.

Mel's letter is really well written compared to the Gibson whiny claptrap.

This still smacks of extortion. Mel is obviously now not popular with Rams Fans quite rightly. But he owes Gibson nothing, so why should he pay him anything? If Mel still has the wealth to forgo £7-10 million...why would he give hit to Gibson? The stadium sale is no longer an issue as it was deemed by the EFL to be ok and the valuation to be accurate. What the owner (Mel) does with the stadium is NOTHING to do with Gibson. If he wants to gift it to Derby he can, If he wants to sell at a figure to pay off MSD he can, If he wants to rent it to the new owner he can...it has F All to do with Gibson.

I think Mel need to lodge a written legal undertaking to this affect with The Efland the parasites. Make it public Mel share with the mps. Be very open and always keep the ball in their court.