Hector was the best

On Saturday on the 2 minute mark, Sheffield United are halving a minutes applause for one of their fans who lost his life to mental health issues.
It would show great respect to the Unites fans and the rest of the watching fans across the country that we are all one football family by joining in with them.
This would probably have happened anyway, but I thought I would just put it out there.
 

I agree. Hence why any sort of protests could be counterproductive. I’m not excusing him but, regardless of how big a fan he is or claims to, there is only so much a man can take before he thinks **** the of you.
Now is a time to maintain a mature and respectful relationship with Mel.

I agree, remember MM is still in a great position to influence the club's future, he still has a say in the cost of the ground and also, is owed a lot of money by the club. If he is still sympathetic to the club, he could write off the monies owed to him and negotiate very attractive ground rents. On the other hand, if things turn nasty, he could retaliate and make life a lot more difficult than it already is.

He's only here for the hubcaps. 

Well I am not and never have been from the area so where does that put me. I consider myself as one of our own after making the journey for 52 years and still will be making it until I can’t 

Was only thinking about this after his interview yesterday afternoon. Has to be ditched. We should now all have far too much respect for him to even think about singing it. He has evolved. So should the fans. 

It's up to the young lads in the south stand to keep it in check next weds. 

Time to ditch the horrible song about our leader . I think you all  no which one .replace it with he’s one of our own he deserves that the way he is conducting himself in these grim times 
 
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How refreshing is it to have people at the helm who are both honest and forthright in their approach. 
That small piece of news actually gives me even more hope after yesterday. 

Asking for a £5 million deposit in a UK bank is genius to be fair. If you’re serious about wanting this club and having the finances to secure our future then £5 mill should be easy money to you. 
If not…jog on!!! 

I had hoped people with money who couldnt buy may help short term. This is brilliant news

I believe he said and I failed to put it in the original post they get it back if they are not chosen has the preferential bidder. 
Should cut out the time wasters also Simon Jordan said these are good administrators he dealt with them when Mk Dons were set up. 
 

Heck, £5m non refundable? If we could get a couple of those on board (and then drop out) that could be handy. ? Come on Alonso, show us your money.
Excellent news about the local business. 

Exactly. Covid losses bear little relation to our overspending. They're purely commercial losses and compensation/assistance should be placed outside of any restrictions applied because of FFP or regulation breaches. It's like companies who stop paying their due debts to another company once they hear they're in financial difficulty. It just pushes the distressed company over the edge. There's a strong case for saying that that is exactly what the EFL have done to Derby.

Are you on such an anti-Morris roll that your blinkers stop you seeing the bigger picture?
I'm not blaming the EFL - I'm stating that by not giving us the additional 'monet to save clubs from Covid' funding (while giving it to all of the other Championship clubs), we've been made into an exceptional case - and that provides a solid argument against the 12-point deduction for going into admin.
A lot of people on here have been saying we can't claim exceptional reasons to avoid the 12 point deduction as other clubs have been able to survive - but by denying us the funding (and there's a very good case to say they were right to do that due to the P&S issues we were having) and then also giving us a points deduction when that decision tipped us over the edge into administration, they've effectively penalised us twice (and that's ignoring the embargo shenanigans preventing us from extending contracts and therefore losing players on the cheap).
Whoever ultimately is to blame (and neither Mel or the EFL are blameless) the funding decision was a contrbutory factor in pushing us over the edge - that should at least lessen the points punishment if not negate it completely....

We have to remember that the EFL's conduct in the DCFC disciplinary case has stoked media frenzies and emboldened gobby hypocrites like the Boro and Wycombe chiefs to dip their bread, to make a lot of spurious noise to allege misfortune caused by the 'guilty' party, their aim being to further damage a competitor. 
* Dragging out the proceedings for over a year and a half, allowing a fellow club (Boro) to engage in actions against DCFC whilst the disciplinary case was in progress (thereby extending the torture for a year, though the actions were thrown out)
* Drip-feeding negative updates to the media without consultation with Derby (positing 'alternative' Derby/Wycombe fixture lists for a Championship <> League One swap if a 2020/21 points deduction was applied)
* Stating their 'regret' that their appeal resulted only in a £100,000 fine for DCFC's amortisation technicalities
* Not reprimanding the Wycombe cowboy for publicly accusing DCFC of systematic cheating
Now we're in administration, minus 12 points with the prospect of further penalties, most even-minded people would surmise that Derby had copped their just desserts and a reset had been enforced.

Here we are, administrators in, massive points deduction, an estimated £50m or whatever in debt, unable to pay wages. And then we read in the Teesside Gazette that Steve Gibson is suing Derby County. https://www.gazettelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/middlesbrough-Derby-rooney-mel-morris-21660410
His gripe is that Mel sold the stadium to another of Mel's companies (accepted as OK by the League because not every club owns their stadium and you can't force a club to) and that Derby loaned Matt Clarke when Gibson wanted him to go to Middlesbrough.
Of course claims such as these are manifestly absurd and would normally be laughed out of court. But the problem is it's inconceivable that the Derby Administrators can also afford to pay lawyers to fight the Middlesboro Chairman. Equally, it's inconceivable that Derby could afford any additional fines the courts might impose.
The sole purpose of this can only be to ensure the end of Derby County as a football club. Nothing less. The entire football world including honest Middlesbrough fans should be outraged by this behaviour and condemn it in the strongest possible terms. The club can't afford to fight this, so it's up to us fans to shame Gibson into stopping this despicable course of action.

Exactly my thoughts . 
Fans are still expecting a promo push either in league 1 or championship . I would think in league 1 we can possibly just . But in the championship to be a level based club living within their means there isnt a chance of a promotion push unless where incredibly good in buying in low value excellent players . 
What this has brought home to me is just how unfair the championship is i guess ive always known it but its taken Derby poss going under to properly understand it and for it to sink home . I do have a little bit of sympathy for Mel chasing the dream he has had to . But not at the expense of how he has now pulled out and left Derby possibly going bust .Even though i secretly think he knows a buyer is there for certain and thats why its been done . 

Ironically the biggest point in our favour is that EFL rules prevented us from accessing the additional £8M+ funding that was provided to every other Championship club - thereby making the impact of Covid far greater on us than anyone else. A pretty strong argument and one the EFL would find difficult to provide a valid arguement against....

Thats what I think as well, the only difference might be (because our losses are minor compared with some others) is that we owe money to commercial enterprises and they owe it to their owner so pay little back.
We did get hit hard without the support money and the fact we had a bigger fanbase, and I can see Mel's point about parachute payments and smaller clubs lossing less. However the issue we have is servicing the debt and that is down to Mel and DCFC. Less debt more operating income left.
The decision making is also flawed, Keogh was always going to win a court case and I think treated badly and they should have known quickly if Rush should be sacked or not. This also cost money.
I think Mel is a true fan but very head strong and at DCFC made a number of rash decisions

Can't compare Derby's loss of £20 million in revenue with the other 72 clubs, most of them lost nothing like that. Most of the bigger teams in the Championship had parachute money, or got Covid support money. We may be first into admin but we will not be the last.  

Where does it say SOLELY in the EFL Rules?
 
Wigan's administrators brought a force majeure defenceand lost.. but this is what the tribunal said..
"We reject the submission of Mr Taylor QC that there were other, also effective, causes,
including the significant increase in the Club’s players’ wages and on transfers. That
these made the Club increasingly dependent on the owner’s continuing support is clearly
true. But so long as that support continued, the ship would have stayed afloat. It was
only when the owner pulled the plug that it sank."
 
So the overspend by Derby on wages etc may have contributed but were not the cause. In Wigan's case the owner withdrew support 7 days after taking over. So they were on a loser. Derby have a much strongr force majeure case, especially as it was MSD , not the owner, who filed for administration, so that was outside the control of the owner.
 
 

The Administrators have certainly upset our friends in Britain's Slavery Capital. They think the positive noises are "simply PR". 
Well done lads ? 

It's not an argument at all. How did covid affect Derby , not how did it affect other clubs. And the fact that EFL gave a loan to other clubs but not Derby doesnt help EFL's case if that is what it is anyway.   

Teeside Gazette
The problems just keep piling up for Derby County.
After entering administration this week, the Rams were deducted 12 points and plummeted to the bottom of the Championship. Another nine points could yet be deducted for breaching EFL rules. And there could be a further hit if administrators can't pay wages.
And on top of those issues, Boro are pressing on with a legal case to sue Derby for alleged financial breaches.
As I understand it its against the regs for him to do this and was the idea behind the EFL taking it up.  This rooster is going to be to be a millstone round our neck till the EFL do there job and put him back in his box once and for all, or he drops dead. 
 

Nope ! As I said before … they had a reasonable plan that was working. It was entirely and singularly derailed by Covid. That is force majeur 
where do you get your “contributing factor” 
Sorry I struggle to see your logic …
Functioning entity with reasonable plan to resolve acknowledged  difficulties.
The only thing that interrupted that plan was Covid. It didn’t “contribute” … you died when you fell in the sea. The fall didn’t kill you, there was a bit of drop, but people were there with ropes and life rafts .. but then a shark ate you … Force Majeur 
 
A pandemic of a type that is at best a once in 100 year event ( and before Spanish flu we are talking once in 300 years ) This event reduced club income  income by 90% 
its force majeur .. not a contributing factor