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On its own, Rooney being pictured in a hotel room with women would just be a matter for him and his family. It's embarrassing for him.
Thing is, the timing of this is shocking. We're at our lowest ebb for a number of decades. Both on and off the field. The last thing Derby need is more negative press. We've got an owner trying to sell the club, negotiate with the EFL and deal with increasing debts at an uncertain time for revenues due to COVID. Add this into the mix, on top of this Jason Knight debarcle and you've got to ask yourself, what was he thinking? Or not thinking.
We're less than two weeks away from the first game of the season and our manager thought it a good idea to go and get rat arsed after loosing a friendly. That's the bigger problem for me, I don't care about the photos and hotel room. I care more about the complete lack of professionalism and focus at a critical juncture in the clubs history. Whether its Rooney's fault or not that we're in the mess we're in, he should be making sure his actions are only for the better of the club. His have not been.

On its own, Rooney being pictured in a hotel room with women would just be a matter for him and his family. It's embarrassing for him.
Thing is, the timing of this is shocking. We're at our lowest ebb for a number of decades. Both on and off the field. The last thing Derby need is more negative press. We've got an owner trying to sell the club, negotiate with the EFL and deal with increasing debts at an uncertain time for revenues due to COVID. Add this into the mix, on top of this Jason Knight debarcle and you've got to ask yourself, what was he thinking? Or not thinking.
We're less than two weeks away from the first game of the season and our manager thought it a good idea to go and get rat arsed after loosing a friendly. That's the bigger problem for me, I don't care about the photos and hotel room. I care more about the complete lack of professionalism and focus at a critical juncture in the clubs history. Whether its Rooney's fault or not that we're in the mess we're in, he should be making sure his actions are only for the better of the club. His have not been.

On its own, Rooney being pictured in a hotel room with women would just be a matter for him and his family. It's embarrassing for him.
Thing is, the timing of this is shocking. We're at our lowest ebb for a number of decades. Both on and off the field. The last thing Derby need is more negative press. We've got an owner trying to sell the club, negotiate with the EFL and deal with increasing debts at an uncertain time for revenues due to COVID. Add this into the mix, on top of this Jason Knight debarcle and you've got to ask yourself, what was he thinking? Or not thinking.
We're less than two weeks away from the first game of the season and our manager thought it a good idea to go and get rat arsed after loosing a friendly. That's the bigger problem for me, I don't care about the photos and hotel room. I care more about the complete lack of professionalism and focus at a critical juncture in the clubs history. Whether its Rooney's fault or not that we're in the mess we're in, he should be making sure his actions are only for the better of the club. His have not been.

On its own, Rooney being pictured in a hotel room with women would just be a matter for him and his family. It's embarrassing for him.
Thing is, the timing of this is shocking. We're at our lowest ebb for a number of decades. Both on and off the field. The last thing Derby need is more negative press. We've got an owner trying to sell the club, negotiate with the EFL and deal with increasing debts at an uncertain time for revenues due to COVID. Add this into the mix, on top of this Jason Knight debarcle and you've got to ask yourself, what was he thinking? Or not thinking.
We're less than two weeks away from the first game of the season and our manager thought it a good idea to go and get rat arsed after loosing a friendly. That's the bigger problem for me, I don't care about the photos and hotel room. I care more about the complete lack of professionalism and focus at a critical juncture in the clubs history. Whether its Rooney's fault or not that we're in the mess we're in, he should be making sure his actions are only for the better of the club. His have not been.

On its own, Rooney being pictured in a hotel room with women would just be a matter for him and his family. It's embarrassing for him.
Thing is, the timing of this is shocking. We're at our lowest ebb for a number of decades. Both on and off the field. The last thing Derby need is more negative press. We've got an owner trying to sell the club, negotiate with the EFL and deal with increasing debts at an uncertain time for revenues due to COVID. Add this into the mix, on top of this Jason Knight debarcle and you've got to ask yourself, what was he thinking? Or not thinking.
We're less than two weeks away from the first game of the season and our manager thought it a good idea to go and get rat arsed after loosing a friendly. That's the bigger problem for me, I don't care about the photos and hotel room. I care more about the complete lack of professionalism and focus at a critical juncture in the clubs history. Whether its Rooney's fault or not that we're in the mess we're in, he should be making sure his actions are only for the better of the club. His have not been.

On its own, Rooney being pictured in a hotel room with women would just be a matter for him and his family. It's embarrassing for him.
Thing is, the timing of this is shocking. We're at our lowest ebb for a number of decades. Both on and off the field. The last thing Derby need is more negative press. We've got an owner trying to sell the club, negotiate with the EFL and deal with increasing debts at an uncertain time for revenues due to COVID. Add this into the mix, on top of this Jason Knight debarcle and you've got to ask yourself, what was he thinking? Or not thinking.
We're less than two weeks away from the first game of the season and our manager thought it a good idea to go and get rat arsed after loosing a friendly. That's the bigger problem for me, I don't care about the photos and hotel room. I care more about the complete lack of professionalism and focus at a critical juncture in the clubs history. Whether its Rooney's fault or not that we're in the mess we're in, he should be making sure his actions are only for the better of the club. His have not been.

On its own, Rooney being pictured in a hotel room with women would just be a matter for him and his family. It's embarrassing for him.
Thing is, the timing of this is shocking. We're at our lowest ebb for a number of decades. Both on and off the field. The last thing Derby need is more negative press. We've got an owner trying to sell the club, negotiate with the EFL and deal with increasing debts at an uncertain time for revenues due to COVID. Add this into the mix, on top of this Jason Knight debarcle and you've got to ask yourself, what was he thinking? Or not thinking.
We're less than two weeks away from the first game of the season and our manager thought it a good idea to go and get rat arsed after loosing a friendly. That's the bigger problem for me, I don't care about the photos and hotel room. I care more about the complete lack of professionalism and focus at a critical juncture in the clubs history. Whether its Rooney's fault or not that we're in the mess we're in, he should be making sure his actions are only for the better of the club. His have not been.

Let's be honest here,Wayne is an absolute idiot getting himself into this situation whilst the team and club are already in enough mither to last a lifetime.
He may well have been taken advantage eventually of but deciding the best tactic to sorting out our loss to a league 2 side a few hours earlier was to get poo faced in a crap nightclub and end up passed out and having photographs taken in the company of two half naked blondes in their hotel room,probably isn't in the b/tec trainee coaching online course that he started at the end of last season.
Whatever your moral stance on this  ( I personally don't care what he gets up to,it's up to Colleen to sort that one out once again) we all have to agree that his number one focus (other than his family) has got to be on this club.
He has got to give 100 percent without nonsense distractions like this...it's hardly going to be a straight forwards job to do in the first place.
Now some are going to give him a free pass to do whatever he wishes whilst our manager but to my mind he needs to knuckle down at the job in hand and prove to the players and us that he truly wants and deserves this job and is willing to give his all.
If he can and if he can turn it around then he will get the support of more of us who doubt him.
Come on Rooney,sort yourself out son.

Has anyone actually tried turning the club off leaving if for 10 seconds and then turn it back on again?
 

So what as fans should we have done about it? Booed at Mel when we were in the stadium? Protested the signing of Blackman? Invaded the pitch when we unveiled Rooney? As others have pointed out, we didn't know the ins and outs of every deal, didn't know we'd been using a potentially non compliant amortization method, didn't know COVID was about to wipe out two years worth of ticket revenues. The only thing we as fans can be blamed for is passion in supporting the club we love. We have zero control and decision making authority.

This is completely different. You vote for a political party. Please tell me where I could have voted for or against Mel and his decisions? Saying we'd deserve the capitulation of our club when we had absolutely no decision making authority in it's running is madness.
Are you saying the Blackpool fans deserved the Oystons? That Bury fans deserved the loss of their club? I could go on. Football is not a democracy. It's an entertainment business ran by people who want to make as much money as possible from a club that we've all got far too invested in without any actual power.

This is completely different. You vote for a political party. Please tell me where I could have voted for or against Mel and his decisions? Saying we'd deserve the capitulation of our club when we had absolutely no decision making authority in it's running is madness.
Are you saying the Blackpool fans deserved the Oystons? That Bury fans deserved the loss of their club? I could go on. Football is not a democracy. It's an entertainment business ran by people who want to make as much money as possible from a club that we've all got far too invested in without any actual power.

So what as fans should we have done about it? Booed at Mel when we were in the stadium? Protested the signing of Blackman? Invaded the pitch when we unveiled Rooney? As others have pointed out, we didn't know the ins and outs of every deal, didn't know we'd been using a potentially non compliant amortization method, didn't know COVID was about to wipe out two years worth of ticket revenues. The only thing we as fans can be blamed for is passion in supporting the club we love. We have zero control and decision making authority.

As a mere fan, we have a few ways of influencing the direction of our club. The biggest way is buying tickets to attend games and cheering the lads on. Unless a fan owns a controlling stake, we're consumers of a live entertainment service. We cannot directly influence the actions taken by management, although can shout our displeasure by booing in the stands, holding up home made banners or simply not turning up.
Yes, there is an expectation from fans that your club should do well and that those making the decisions do so in a manner that puts the club in the best possible position in the table. It's not fans fault how management make such decisions as running a football club is not a democracy, and Derby County is not a public share holding. We cannot vote at an AGM. We can only vote with our chants and feet. 
Mel is a fan of this club and bought a controlling stake. He invested heavily. He nearly got us into the EPL. However, it is his decisions, and some bad luck, that have also got us to where we are now. No other fan had a say in any of the decisions he or his employed management team made. 
My personal opinion on Mel is that he's always operated with the clubs best interests at heart. I believe he still does. That doesn't mean he's made all the right decisions.

Not arguing with that. Yes we all cheered and sang “he’s one of our own”. We would all have been delighted if the gamble had paid off if we’d been promoted but, the fact remains, none of us really knew how high the stakes were or the consequences of failure. Even if we had, and continued to cheer/encourage him, it still doesn’t make us responsible for the miss management of the club. I have been a Mel supporter but he can’t abdicate responsibility and we can’t shift the blame to the fans.
Mel is a successful business man in possession of the full details of the financial position when decisions were made. We were not and, of course, we’re going to be thrilled when the club sign expensive players (even if they do turn out to be duds). What do you expect “hold on Mel, are you sure we can afford him? Have you done a full assessment of the impact of his future wages? Can you share with us your risk assessment and financial modelling for promotion v remaining in the championship?” 
 

As a mere fan, we have a few ways of influencing the direction of our club. The biggest way is buying tickets to attend games and cheering the lads on. Unless a fan owns a controlling stake, we're consumers of a live entertainment service. We cannot directly influence the actions taken by management, although can shout our displeasure by booing in the stands, holding up home made banners or simply not turning up.
Yes, there is an expectation from fans that your club should do well and that those making the decisions do so in a manner that puts the club in the best possible position in the table. It's not fans fault how management make such decisions as running a football club is not a democracy, and Derby County is not a public share holding. We cannot vote at an AGM. We can only vote with our chants and feet. 
Mel is a fan of this club and bought a controlling stake. He invested heavily. He nearly got us into the EPL. However, it is his decisions, and some bad luck, that have also got us to where we are now. No other fan had a say in any of the decisions he or his employed management team made. 
My personal opinion on Mel is that he's always operated with the clubs best interests at heart. I believe he still does. That doesn't mean he's made all the right decisions.

As a mere fan, we have a few ways of influencing the direction of our club. The biggest way is buying tickets to attend games and cheering the lads on. Unless a fan owns a controlling stake, we're consumers of a live entertainment service. We cannot directly influence the actions taken by management, although can shout our displeasure by booing in the stands, holding up home made banners or simply not turning up.
Yes, there is an expectation from fans that your club should do well and that those making the decisions do so in a manner that puts the club in the best possible position in the table. It's not fans fault how management make such decisions as running a football club is not a democracy, and Derby County is not a public share holding. We cannot vote at an AGM. We can only vote with our chants and feet. 
Mel is a fan of this club and bought a controlling stake. He invested heavily. He nearly got us into the EPL. However, it is his decisions, and some bad luck, that have also got us to where we are now. No other fan had a say in any of the decisions he or his employed management team made. 
My personal opinion on Mel is that he's always operated with the clubs best interests at heart. I believe he still does. That doesn't mean he's made all the right decisions.

As a mere fan, we have a few ways of influencing the direction of our club. The biggest way is buying tickets to attend games and cheering the lads on. Unless a fan owns a controlling stake, we're consumers of a live entertainment service. We cannot directly influence the actions taken by management, although can shout our displeasure by booing in the stands, holding up home made banners or simply not turning up.
Yes, there is an expectation from fans that your club should do well and that those making the decisions do so in a manner that puts the club in the best possible position in the table. It's not fans fault how management make such decisions as running a football club is not a democracy, and Derby County is not a public share holding. We cannot vote at an AGM. We can only vote with our chants and feet. 
Mel is a fan of this club and bought a controlling stake. He invested heavily. He nearly got us into the EPL. However, it is his decisions, and some bad luck, that have also got us to where we are now. No other fan had a say in any of the decisions he or his employed management team made. 
My personal opinion on Mel is that he's always operated with the clubs best interests at heart. I believe he still does. That doesn't mean he's made all the right decisions.

Great place to be. 
 
Keeps us all sane really.
Its good to have diverse opinions.
Thoughts 
Up the Rams. 
 

As a mere fan, we have a few ways of influencing the direction of our club. The biggest way is buying tickets to attend games and cheering the lads on. Unless a fan owns a controlling stake, we're consumers of a live entertainment service. We cannot directly influence the actions taken by management, although can shout our displeasure by booing in the stands, holding up home made banners or simply not turning up.
Yes, there is an expectation from fans that your club should do well and that those making the decisions do so in a manner that puts the club in the best possible position in the table. It's not fans fault how management make such decisions as running a football club is not a democracy, and Derby County is not a public share holding. We cannot vote at an AGM. We can only vote with our chants and feet. 
Mel is a fan of this club and bought a controlling stake. He invested heavily. He nearly got us into the EPL. However, it is his decisions, and some bad luck, that have also got us to where we are now. No other fan had a say in any of the decisions he or his employed management team made. 
My personal opinion on Mel is that he's always operated with the clubs best interests at heart. I believe he still does. That doesn't mean he's made all the right decisions.

As a mere fan, we have a few ways of influencing the direction of our club. The biggest way is buying tickets to attend games and cheering the lads on. Unless a fan owns a controlling stake, we're consumers of a live entertainment service. We cannot directly influence the actions taken by management, although can shout our displeasure by booing in the stands, holding up home made banners or simply not turning up.
Yes, there is an expectation from fans that your club should do well and that those making the decisions do so in a manner that puts the club in the best possible position in the table. It's not fans fault how management make such decisions as running a football club is not a democracy, and Derby County is not a public share holding. We cannot vote at an AGM. We can only vote with our chants and feet. 
Mel is a fan of this club and bought a controlling stake. He invested heavily. He nearly got us into the EPL. However, it is his decisions, and some bad luck, that have also got us to where we are now. No other fan had a say in any of the decisions he or his employed management team made. 
My personal opinion on Mel is that he's always operated with the clubs best interests at heart. I believe he still does. That doesn't mean he's made all the right decisions.

Derby trying to get ready for the new season by pulling some fancy moves and backing the manager:
 

As a mere fan, we have a few ways of influencing the direction of our club. The biggest way is buying tickets to attend games and cheering the lads on. Unless a fan owns a controlling stake, we're consumers of a live entertainment service. We cannot directly influence the actions taken by management, although can shout our displeasure by booing in the stands, holding up home made banners or simply not turning up.
Yes, there is an expectation from fans that your club should do well and that those making the decisions do so in a manner that puts the club in the best possible position in the table. It's not fans fault how management make such decisions as running a football club is not a democracy, and Derby County is not a public share holding. We cannot vote at an AGM. We can only vote with our chants and feet. 
Mel is a fan of this club and bought a controlling stake. He invested heavily. He nearly got us into the EPL. However, it is his decisions, and some bad luck, that have also got us to where we are now. No other fan had a say in any of the decisions he or his employed management team made. 
My personal opinion on Mel is that he's always operated with the clubs best interests at heart. I believe he still does. That doesn't mean he's made all the right decisions.

As a mere fan, we have a few ways of influencing the direction of our club. The biggest way is buying tickets to attend games and cheering the lads on. Unless a fan owns a controlling stake, we're consumers of a live entertainment service. We cannot directly influence the actions taken by management, although can shout our displeasure by booing in the stands, holding up home made banners or simply not turning up.
Yes, there is an expectation from fans that your club should do well and that those making the decisions do so in a manner that puts the club in the best possible position in the table. It's not fans fault how management make such decisions as running a football club is not a democracy, and Derby County is not a public share holding. We cannot vote at an AGM. We can only vote with our chants and feet. 
Mel is a fan of this club and bought a controlling stake. He invested heavily. He nearly got us into the EPL. However, it is his decisions, and some bad luck, that have also got us to where we are now. No other fan had a say in any of the decisions he or his employed management team made. 
My personal opinion on Mel is that he's always operated with the clubs best interests at heart. I believe he still does. That doesn't mean he's made all the right decisions.

I think the OP has conflated a wider issue with football since the EPL era and what is specifically happening at Derby.The bottom line for any business is that buck stops with the owner, CEO or whoever is the accountable custodian in preserving and growing its reputation, economic stability and responsibility to shareholders & stakeholders alike. If the CEO of any large business invested in stock at an overinflated price that didn’t result in improved performance and then further down the line fell foul to fiscal rules that were in place to protect against such misadventure then they would solely be accountable regardless of customer demands at any point.  The expectation of football fans or indeed customers who receive goods or entertainment from any business are probably quite broad and segmented. If there is popular demand for something the role of any leader is to understand that and take a balanced approach that delivers the best possible outcome for all.