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one for the big Lebowski fans

He’s part of the same political party as Giuliani too.

Nope. The earlier take was not the worst. Now he's outright trolling. 

doesn't mention we couldn't sell him because he has been injured

I'm actually really pleased to see this. Durham is a prize twit to the point where I suffer a crisis of conscience if I'm ever in agreement with him on anything.

In answer to his question: yes, I’m OK with that. Thanks for asking. ??

Adrian Durham really is a moron.

Adrian Durham likes to find an edge, to stir up his client base of phone-in loonies driving their taxis and white vans round the outskirts of London. Here though he is probably just being a Peterborough fan who is scared witless that his team will be overtaken by a 21 point deducted team before the end of February. If I am not too busy around 5 this evening I think I will stop taking fares and ring him up and tell him what a twit he really is.

For me, the arbitration committee can ignore most of the waffle in his letter, why Derby got into such a debt and indeed why Derby were so late resubmitting their revised accounts. 
 
The salient points are:
1) What was the timeline for submitting the amended accounts: 24th August (after extensions were approved)
2) Who set the deadline: The EFL
3) Who agreed the extension: The EFL
4) Did Derby breach the extension deadline: No (not as far I can see)
5) Who decided that the 24th August was too late to allow for a points deduction to be applied to last season: The EFL
Provided point 4 in particular is correct, I really can’t see how Wycombe’s case against Derby has any merit whatsoever. 

This guy knows he’s in the wrong!

He loves it!
This is the same guy who told a Church team in Dudley who help rehab  former offenders, to destroy their club badge as it resembled Boro’s!
The guy is a piece of work!
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/dudley-church-team-ordered-destroy-9281178.amp

He loves it!
This is the same guy who told a Church team in Dudley who help rehab  former offenders, to destroy their club badge as it resembled Boro’s!
The guy is a piece of work!
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/dudley-church-team-ordered-destroy-9281178.amp

I find it really interesting that he's doubling down on the assertion it is somehow Derby's fault that the EFL couldn't (as they wanted, might I add) apply the points deduction to the season that Wycombe were relegated.
Is he deliberately not reading the reports from the LAP?
He should be going after Boro for their claim delaying the process, if he thinks releasing the accounts sooner would have meant the deduction would come in...

Another one hiding behind "It's all really complicated, don't try to understand it!"
I don't think the Wycombe claim is particularly complicated. I don't think there are "multiple reasons", I think both their claim and Middlesbrough's claim boil down to the same thing: if a club was found guilty of P+S breaches in season X, can another club claim damages for supposed financial losses 'caused' by those breaches, on top of the agreed points penalties imposed by the EFL? And then the relevant questions include how you'd quantify those losses, how you'd prove the P+S breach caused the losses, and so on, which I think will be very hard for Wycombe and Middlesbrough to do (and hard for the EFL to support). But let's get it all out in the open, and stop this "It's all very complicated but we aren't the hold up here, it's all Derby's fault!"

Just shows how he is trying the twist the story to suit his argument.
I don’t think anyone is suggesting Wycombe are responsible for Derby going into administration but they do seem to be one of the barriers to our exit. Also:
With regard to the imminent announcement of a preferred bidder, he seems to be another person who struggles to understand the difference between an expectation and a deadline.
With regard to announcing plans for creditors, surely you wouldn’t expect them to until the deal is finalised and what’s that got to do with Wycombe and their claim?

In case anyone's interested, Rob "Lionel Hutz" Couhig's given an update to Wycombe supporters with some comments on the situation with us:
https://gasroom.org/discussion/7216/rob-couhig-update
"Derby is an interesting situation. Its administrators continue to peddle the premise that Wycombe is somehow responsible for its possible demise. Nothing could be further from the truth. Wycombe had nothing to do with its accumulation of approximately £60 million in debt, including nearly £30 million to the government, £20+ million to the holder of the note of Mr. Morris which is secured by the stadium, approximately £8 million of other football debt, and, of course, the many smaller non-football creditors from the Derby area.
As of today, the administrators have not stated their plans for the resolution of the debt with any of its creditors. Although they announced a "preferred bidder" would be known "before Christmas", it has not been named. Nor did they meet their own deadline of over a month ago of making the announcement "imminently". Nothing has changed concerning the disagreement between Wycombe and Derby. There have been no discussions, no calls, nothing since I visited their offices in London last November.
There are multiple reasons why Derby owes Wycombe money. Perhaps the simplest to understand is that Derby, once it lost its arbitration, deliberately delayed turning over its reconstituted financials to avoid relegation. It did not even meet the panel’s deadline of August 14 (note: this is wrong, the original deadline was August 18th), which probably would have still allowed Wycombe to compete this year in the Championship. This cost Wycombe the difference in net revenue between competing in the Championship and League 1 this year and created likely financial losses beyond this year."
If the "simplest to understand" reason for why Derby owes Wycombe money is because Derby were given an agreed extension to a deadline so they had to input their accounts four games into the new season rather than to input their accounts three games into the new season, and this somehow stopped Wycombe from being in the Championship, then I don't think I'll be able to get my head round the other reasons. 

First they came for Maidstone
And I did not speak out
Because I was not an Maidstone fan
Then they came for Newport
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Newport fan
Then they came for Bury
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Bury fan
Then they came for Derby
And they did not speak out
Because they were not Derby fans
Then they came for your club
And there was no one left
To speak out for you
All poetry, and stolen stanzas, aside the key point is not to make this about 'Derby vs EFL' or 'Derby vs Boro' or 'Fans vs Mel' and that is - without contradicting myself - where the EFL have completely missed the point here. This is about the governance of how football clubs are run, how the lure of the Premier League is completely irresistible to many and to how the polarization of the game is increasingly moving it away from being a community based sport to a franchise run system akin to what we see in NFL etc. British football is more than that and it should be our key point that this is not so much about saving one club - all that does is kick the can down the road - but more about saving the game for the communities that it exists within.

Administrators have inserted a clause into the boro and Wycombe cases as a case of significant importance which puts it to the top of any arbitrary panel . Contrary to media reports the process can take days not weeks with a final outcome expected within 14-18 days.
expect the stadium not to be an issue , Mel is being cooperative has a price in mind but willing to negotiate.
 
contrary to media all three parties have submitted bids but unwilling to proceeed without arbitration result clarity.
 
Administrators drafted up a CVA plan , total cost of the club , stadium , creditor payment plans only thing missing is the agreed price plus preferred bidder identity which should be finalised within days of the arbitration result which is the main hold up 

Nice to see from Shinnie. 

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Got a ticket in the Toyota stand behind the dugouts heard quite a bit of criticism around me couldn’t believe it when one old boy said that’s the best thing that could have happened when Jozwiak went off injured ?

Just got back into Leeds - what a day that was
Will begin with the march as it obviously dominated the backdrop to the game. We set off for Assembly Rooms expecting a few hundred die hard (expectations around 1000 I believe) - well, got to the bus station & the noise just hit us. A wonderful display of support - loads of flags, banners & singing - just joyous & if there were less than 10k there, I'd be shocked. There's a little red headed lad who will be very proud of himself tonight - he started 'Since I was Young' when we going under the bridge near the station & 30 seconds later the sound was just exploding off the walls from hundreds singing it. Spine tingling. Outside PP just awesome also - as if you couldn't feel even prouder of who we all support.
On to the game - I do think the march had sapped some of the energy from the crowd & the occasion seemed to get the players a little with a lot of sloppy passes & poor touches. Birmingham settled much quicker & their physical, relentless press soon had us in trouble. The early goal knocked us out of our stride & to be honest, we were perhaps fortunate not to be further behind with one excellent Allsop save & one fantastic intervention from Bird tracking back to stop a certain one on one. We did have chances - Bird dragged a good opportunity wide & Lawrence's late free kick nearly yielded an opening but it had been a below par display & we had offered little overall.
Second half I expected changes but we were still off it & the second Birmingham goal (shocking cover for Hogan by the way) seemed to confirm it was going to be one of those days. Last 20/25 mins though the pressure started building back onto Brum & there were a number of reasons for that - Bielik coming on for Thompson to impose ourselves in midfield, Kazim to help Plange up top & Curtis Davies going up top to cause chaos. They started to struggle to keep us out & we were very unfortunate not to score before the fantastic goal back from Plange - he struggled overall today but will learn a lot playing against horrible CBs like theirs. 
Onto injury time, I thought it was all over when Byrne floated a corner straight into Etheridge's hands & feared a repeat of Forest with time wasting & compliant refereeing to see the time ebb away. But we got one more chance & the absolute state of that bicycle kick from Bielik - just beautiful. And full deserved against a horrible, cheating bunch of timewasting cloggers. 
I'm not going to pass comment on Birmingham's support & their songs aside to say they're just a tiny version of Leeds. I hope they all have a thoroughly miserable evening & think they have exactly the owners they deserve. Long live Derby County ??

Sue them for £45 million!

Sue them for £45 million!

He had a one on one in the first half and failed to connect with on that went across the goal in the second half. 
I think bowyers right.