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It's just draining isn't it, Clowes needs to act before this season fades into nothing. He didn't hestitate to get rid of Roseiner. Why Warne? It was a clear mistake getting him.

County 0 - Pompey 1

Just watched the first part of the forum. 
 
To say that the U21s game only finished a few hours before the forum and he couldn’t even remember the score line along with not knowing the name of the player who’d just scored a hatrick is disrespectful to all of the academy. The only players he made reference to was his own first team players that played in that game. 

The club went bust because the source of working capital decided to stop providing it. I doubt Pearce was able to influence that decision. 

Just finished watching the Fans Forum in its entirety on youtube and imho Stephen Pearce spoke very well.  He kinda dodged the final question thrown at him but as he alluded to earlier in the evening, a lot of the finer details remain behind NDAs. 
Non of us know how much influence he really had under MM regime, or whether he had the rug pulled from under him at times with MM rash decision making.  All we can go on is DC trust in him and how the club has been building since exiting administration - and off the pitch, we've been doing really well.  Thats good enough for me.
I thought the evening as a whole was a very enjoyable watch.  It won't calm the fears of those anti PW, but to me at least, everyone spoke from the same hymn sheet and of building towards success.  Hopefully success will come this season as we hit our stride, but if not the groundwork is being laid for the future. 
Hopefully we can all get behind PW and the team and stop overreacting to every bump in the road.

I've said it before, I'll say it again.
Stephen Pearce was CEO in name. But his employer, Mel Morris, ran the show. I highly doubt Pearce had any option but to follow what Morris wanted. That's not to say he didn't make mistakes, of course, but we all know Morris was too hands on and ruled EVERYTHING.
Since then, I have no doubt he is under NDA. He will not be allowed to discuss any aspect of his employment by Mel Morris, even if he wanted to.
Instead, take note of people still in the club, who seem to have possibly even more respect for him through and following administration than they did before, and our new owner, a lifelong fan, who if he felt wasnt right for the job, could and can get rid at any point.
Time to move on imo.

Having been Twitter clean for over a month now, I haven't seen any of the tweets regarding the forum, only glanced at those posted on this forum.
I think it's fair to say that once the footage does come out, any opinions that have already expressed on what has and hasn't been said in this thread will remain unchanged.
Reason being, opinions have been formed and fully entrenched now where only a decent run of results will soften or run of bad results flip.
It's already been seen in this thread with accusations back and fourth over comments taken out of context, misquoted and general bickering back and fourth. 
Reason being, the content being shared will have the authors own half full or half empty slant on things. 
I will follow @Owen87ITK great advice, wait, watch it myself and probably not engage in this particular topic as it would be a monumental waste of time.
Sooner Saturday rolls around and we have a game of football to discuss the better, I will be watching from Sunny Spain sipping on a Pina Colada, win or lose I will not be logging on here 😂

If you trust David Clowes and he wants Pearce around, then what is there to moan about?
Mel Morris made every decision, that seems to be the accepted wisdom, so what do we think Pearces responsibility in our troubles was?
Let's just get on with becoming a successful club again, and if that is with Pearce involved, then great, I couldn't care less.

You're not thick, so you must be stirring.
I find it tedious at best. 

Not telling at all. Who in their right minds, regardless of what has gone on before, would queue to have their photo taken with the finance guy when the owner, two players and the manager were there? 

No, his style is not for me, tbh, Curtains. 
But I listened to him and thought about what he said.
Whether I like him personally or not isn't important,  it's what he can get the team to produce on a football field that is. 

I disagree.
He had made his statement at the beginning of the Forum and he must be very cautious about stating anything that would cause legal trouble for the Club.
There are a certain section of the fanbase that will never move on from using him as the scapegoat and are just looking to criticise him at every opportunity. It says more about them than it does about Pearce to be honest. 
 

All very sensible and well conveyed points. As I said, I'm probably in a slightly grumpy mood.
I think it's the disconnect I perceive between Warne and the rest of the club at the moment (or at least what I would want the rest of the club to look like)
I'm sure I've made this point before in my more whiney posts but my fave managers of the last 15 years were Clough and the small insight we got into Rosenior's philosophy. Something about the way they spoke and approached their roles made me think they were at one with the club, understood what made it tick and wanted to build something from the ground up. I really bought into what they said and how they went about it.
I just don't genuinely feel that with Warne and if you don't have that in the first team manager, I don't know how much of the other stuff can come to fruition. It's about pathways to the first team, embedding a playing style from the youth teams up, integration with the community. 
I just feel like we have Warne and the first team over here and the rest of the club over there. It's just a feeling and I have absolutely zero to back it up!
Jury is out on the recruitment team. 
And for the record I'm not in the Warne out camp, I quite like the guy, I'm just struggling to make sense of the club at the moment and can't get that excited about where we're heading.
 

Yes, definitely. 

Yes, definitely. 

No reason in principle why not but a lot of things have to go right at the same time from player to manager (and that is NOT a comment about our current manager). And above all we would have to have a lot of luck going our way on everything from referees decisions to academy fruitfulness.
If there’s anything I worry about about David Clowes’ ownership is his relative wealth. He’s clearly a rich man by any stretch of imagination. Good for him.  But he isn’t football rich it seems to me even at championship level never mind PL level. When you have clubs effectively owned by countries rather than individuals then having a couple of hundred million isn’t enough, especially if you then want your club/business to be self sustainable.  
There are reasons why very few (can’t name any but I presume there are some) football clubs are actually self sustainable and genuinely have income greater than expenditure. I doubt any in the PL actually are, nor the championship for that matter and so for us to get there requires someone to spend/gamble enough to make it possible or take a long time (and have a lot of patience). We’re not a club with a lot of patience from top to bottom as these pages often demonstrate.
I don’t know how many years of watching live football I have left.  I’ve done 60 or so. David Clowes’ relative financial weakness is a huge problem for football as a whole and is the result of FFP and TV plus feeble football administration. I live in hope that we will gain two promotions in the next 10 years or so and that I see it,  but I’m not expecting it. We certainly can’t win anything in the top league any more other than individual matches. I am just glad that I have lived through the golden age of football when football life was simpler, fairer and better. And we were good.

Correct! Wildsmith had to come charging out of his area because we were disorganised again after giving the ball away again. 

doubting the referees honesty is a bit daft, his competence maybe. 

Correct! Wildsmith had to come charging out of his area because we were disorganised again after giving the ball away again. 

doubting the referees honesty is a bit daft, his competence maybe. 

Correct! Wildsmith had to come charging out of his area because we were disorganised again after giving the ball away again. 

doubting the referees honesty is a bit daft, his competence maybe. 

…and yet we lost. We also gave away a penalty and had a player sent off because we didn’t have possession of the ball.
Blame the ref all you want, but if you keep the ball it doesn’t happen 

but whats the point of getting out the league if we know the manager isn't good enough to keep us up next season?

A chance falls to a player on his wrong foot , headed chance for a player not great with his head v a good header of the ball , player clear through on goal who struggles with that kind of situation but his scoring prowess is much better in other areas ,it is so so so subjective ,
as I say it’s fine if you enjoy this stuff and it has SOME value in SOME areas but what we have here is posters posting this stuff as un arguable evidence the manager should be sacked and anybody who doesn’t agree and calls it for what it is just doesn’t understand , if you were to go with this stuff managers would be sacked every week ( as if it isn’t bad enough now ) and players would be lambasted and packed off to the reserves or drummed out every other game ,
its a human game played by humans who make mistake and equally are great over 90 minutes being treated like it’s a computer game , derby could win the next game , confidence rise ,player click and go on a 10 game run of wins as could pretty much most clubs in this division 🤷🏻‍♂️

The biggest statistical reason why Brighton are where they are is the £500, million that Tony Bloom has put into the club, mostly in loans.

to beat everyone else in league one, we don't need to be the same as them, we need to be better

We often employ that stupid diagonal hoof upfield from kick offs.  With about 6 players lined up down one side to run onto the ball.  Looks more like rugby than football and I don't think we ever retain possession.