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    ilkleyram got a reaction from Wolfie in The FBI have got the Kirch!   
    I don't find it astonishing and I'm not convinced that any new regulator will find it any easier to identify the charlatan owners in advance either.  My view is that they are essentially powerless in a free market economy or even, as football is nowadays, a more controlled market.  It's harder to do than getting a grip of things.
    Take three examples:
    Had the authorities, at the time he was taking over, stopped Mel Morris from buying us - a multi, multi millionaire with legitimately earned income, a person born/educated in Derby and allegedly a fan of the club - we would have (rightly) been up in arms.  What happened later was largely unforeseeable then though, no doubt, the EFL would give MM as a prime example of why they don't like the owner/funder model of club ownership (without clearly identifying what model of ownership they do like).
    Or the Glazers.  Bought Man Utd essentially by putting the club into debt, using it to buy itself.  All perfectly legal whether intrinsically you like that way of funding a club or not. From the beginning there were people who didn't like the club suddenly having to service significant amounts of debt but the club/business can clearly afford the debt levels given its turnover.  No Man Utd fan can legitimately argue that their squad hasn't had money lavished upon it even if you can argue that what was bought was over priced rubbish.  You can't just ban Americans/foreign owners or even people wanting to fund takeovers in ways that limit their own personal liabilities.
    Or Newcastle.  Owners that were originally turned down but later became acceptable because, apparently, their funding is not controlled by the State concerned.  Does anyone really believe that or that the state concerned doesn't have human rights issues?  You sense that a great deal of money was spent in between on expensive lawyers finding a fudge or three to satisfy the needs of regulators and the EPL; you sense that some of the opposition was football political - that the existing 'big' clubs didn't want a gatecrasher to disturb their financial monopoly on the top EPL places; and that there was an underlying threat of expensive legal action should the takeover not be eventually sanctioned
    Kirchner was clearly a persuasive guy, certainly to a club desperate for new ownership and to authorities that wanted MM gone and for Derby to have new owners.  Whatever the EFL may say now they clearly allowed him past the ownership tests and they and the administrators clearly saw some proof of funds whatever that later proved to be. And Kirchner fooled international banks, plane owners, Rooney and his agent and the game of golf. Maybe, just maybe, we owe MM some thanks for not selling the ground either to Kirchner or to Ashley (and for splitting it from the football club) and for selling it to Clowes' company.
    The amount of money sloshing around in football generally nowadays will always attract people at the edges whether they're individuals or countries with dodgy records.  Some might be easier to spot than others but no regulator is going to stop easily perfectly legal transactions from happening, whoever is involved.  Hindsight is a great skill given to no one.   
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from angieram in Time wasting in football   
    I’ve seen the argument before that you have to reduce the length of matches if you introduce more accurate timekeeping, but why?
    Rugby (both codes) is a much more physical game than football and they didn’t reduce matches from 80 minutes when they introduced the ability for referees to stop the clock.  We have more subs than ever before - you can alter half the outfield team if you want - better pitches, medical staff, kit including footballs, training, dietary advice and all the rest of it, why can’t they play a full 90 minutes?  If they want to stop the ref from extending the time they’re on the pitch then they should stop all the play acting and nonsense that goes on in the name of ‘professionalism’. Does my head in.
    As a starting point the football authorities and referees have to do something. I thought the world cup might be the start but seemingly no one has the courage to take it further 
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    ilkleyram reacted to angieram in Wigan Athletic - points deduction   
    This is just another example of football being broken. Everton referred to an independent commission,  Bournemouth losing 55 million last season despite parachute payments and promotion.
    Until we do something about it, the list of casualties will keep growing. 
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    ilkleyram reacted to IslandExile in Elland Road   
    OK, own up, which one of you was it?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/65063522
    "Investigations are currently ongoing to establish the credibility of that threat."
    I would have thought the only threat was to the 'credibility' of Leeds United.
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    ilkleyram reacted to Tamworthram in Season Ticket Renewals 2023-24   
    It’s not a normal season because we’re subject to an agreed two year business plan. I know we’re all speculating but maybe the restrictions within that business plan are subject to review during the summer. Maybe any potential variation is dependent upon what league we’re playing in. Maybe this year, unlike previous years, because of that business plan and any potential variation the club are waiting to see what division we’ll be playing in before setting prices.
    The simple fact is that none of us know the reason for the delay but we all probably have our own favourite theories. At the end of the day though, whilst frustrating (because we all want to know everything and we want to know now) as @ilkleyram is saying - it doesn’t really matter to us supporters. We know we’ve got a club and we know season tickets will go on sale eventually. It might just mean we’ll only have three months in which to renew (and possibly no early bird offer) rather than the usual six months. 
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from Tamworthram in Season Ticket Renewals 2023-24   
    It's only 'late' in comparison to previous seasons (except this one) but other than cash flow all that really matters is that those who want to buy a ST can do so before the start of the season and the club can do all the admin before the first game.  Even in normal seasons they continue to offer STs or part STs after a season has begun.
    The cash flow is important to see us through the summer when no/little income is coming in but, without knowing the ins and outs of how the EFL manage clubs' ST monies, it might be that a good season this season from the point of view of income will help us through the summer period anyway.  And if we can't pay fees for players during the summer because of the business plan then we might have even less of a problem than usual.
    The big advantage to DCFC of any delay is that they can price STs according to the division we'll be in - they don't have to guess - and they'll still have time to make any early bird offers if they want to.
    My bet would be that ST demand will be high whether we go up or not even if they go on sale after the play offs, and that the problem of no direct debit offer is more to do with credit arrangements because we've been in administration than anything else.  Whether that will change this year or not who knows.
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from David Graham Brown in Team bonding - should we be worried?   
    No he didn’t say that as I recall. He did say that he thought the players didn’t train well on Friday, but didn’t offer a reason - nor was asked for one.
    He also said that he had some theories (I think was the word he used) about why the match performance was poor, but wanted to watch the game back to confirm his thoughts. The two statements may have been transposed to create a conspiracy theory. C’est la vie.
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from Steve How Hard? in Fleetwood Home Sat 18th March 3.00pm   
    Tbf they deserved 3 points yesterday but not 1 point or a clean sheet at their place - that was down to luck and our poor finishing.
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from David Graham Brown in Fleetwood Home Sat 18th March 3.00pm   
    Tbf they deserved 3 points yesterday but not 1 point or a clean sheet at their place - that was down to luck and our poor finishing.
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from angieram in Fleetwood Home Sat 18th March 3.00pm   
    Tbf they deserved 3 points yesterday but not 1 point or a clean sheet at their place - that was down to luck and our poor finishing.
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from MackworthRamIsGod in Team bonding - should we be worried?   
    No he didn’t say that as I recall. He did say that he thought the players didn’t train well on Friday, but didn’t offer a reason - nor was asked for one.
    He also said that he had some theories (I think was the word he used) about why the match performance was poor, but wanted to watch the game back to confirm his thoughts. The two statements may have been transposed to create a conspiracy theory. C’est la vie.
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from RoyMac5 in Footy Scran   
    It happens at lots of grounds @angieram .  As coke is now more expensive than a litre of fuel I can’t imagine why people would want to throw it on the pitch but that’s the reason why tops are removed according to a number of clubs, including ours, that I have complained to.  Elf and safety gone mad
    The practice ignores the fact that it would take an international cricketer to reach the pitch never mind hit anyone, that there have been no incidents at grounds including our own, that removing the top wouldn’t stop it from being hurled anyway if someone was of a mind to do so and ignores the fact that people bring their own drinks into the ground in their own containers - no doubt flasks are deemed to be lethal weapons in football speak. 
    I now take spare tops with me to away grounds or I get water, and I’ve stopped buying any drinks at PP in silent protest. 
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from RoyMac5 in Team bonding - should we be worried?   
    No he didn’t say that as I recall. He did say that he thought the players didn’t train well on Friday, but didn’t offer a reason - nor was asked for one.
    He also said that he had some theories (I think was the word he used) about why the match performance was poor, but wanted to watch the game back to confirm his thoughts. The two statements may have been transposed to create a conspiracy theory. C’est la vie.
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from strawhillram in Gary Lineker   
    Just gets better and better.  Could they make this permanent?
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from strawhillram in Gary Lineker   
    Excellent news. Perhaps we can now have a football programme that just shows football without all the pointless nonsense in between of a bunch of ex players saying nothing of interest or import, whilst robbing licence fee payers of 100s of thousands a year in wages.
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from Phoenix in Gary Lineker   
    Excellent news. Perhaps we can now have a football programme that just shows football without all the pointless nonsense in between of a bunch of ex players saying nothing of interest or import, whilst robbing licence fee payers of 100s of thousands a year in wages.
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from Abu Derby in Gary Lineker   
    Excellent news. Perhaps we can now have a football programme that just shows football without all the pointless nonsense in between of a bunch of ex players saying nothing of interest or import, whilst robbing licence fee payers of 100s of thousands a year in wages.
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    ilkleyram reacted to Carl Sagan in Gary Lineker   
    The BBC journos I know bang their heads on their desk every time Lineker goes political, because they know it makes their job a million times harder to appear politically neutral.
    It also means people will be let go as cuts are made, because (as Gary well knows but doesn't care) it adds to the licence fee boycott, meaning less money goes into the BBC's coffers.
    Jonathan Agnew nailed it when he pleaded with Lineker to stop, but the tweet has now been taken down so here's a screengrab:

    So, yes, Lineker should clearly have been sacked, and long ago, for his political tweets. Just as Sugar should have been the same. You cannot work in this high-profile way for the BBC and openly express political views. Those are just the rules.
    You will be too young to know, but when the BBC first picked Lineker to present Match of the Day, it was frankly bizarre. There had never been a worse presenter on TV, it was laughable and embarrassing. He was completely wooden and unnatural and had no idea what to say and do. But they stuck with him and worked with him over the years, until he finally became a decent sports presenter. But they made him and he has the Beeb to totally thank for giving him this extraordinarily lucrative career (on which he tries to avoid paying tax). He should be incredibly grateful to them for giving him a chance and standing by him during the period of ridicule, but instead he continually kicks them in the teeth. He's only in it for himself.
     
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from David Graham Brown in Gary Lineker   
    Here's a random idea - let's just have a MOTD with just football.  No chat, no presenters, maybe no commentators either.  Just footie that we can make our own minds on what's good/bad, right or wrong.  You never know we might be able to have more actual football to fill the available time
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from David Graham Brown in Gary Lineker   
    Spot on - every organisation, publicly financed or commercial, will be interested in what their employees say inside or outside work, if what is said is detrimental to the organisation.  It's one of the reasons we have whistleblowing legislation, to protect the rights of workers to say something publicly about the organisation they work for if it's in the public interest to do so. 
    That's not the same as limiting what employees might think, which is completely different.
    Whether he likes it or not Lineker has previous.  He's pushed and pushed the BBC's management by expressing his own political views on social media over and over again, despite warnings.  The BBC (and by extension their employees) have to be seen to be as neutral from the Government of the day as they possibly can be and Lineker has made that harder and harder for them for some time. 
    And it's not just the Tories either - Alistair Campbell was brutal to any journalist/media organisation that said anything critical of then Labour party policy.  They all seek to influence the media's output, all the time.
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from David Graham Brown in Gary Lineker   
    Excellent news. Perhaps we can now have a football programme that just shows football without all the pointless nonsense in between of a bunch of ex players saying nothing of interest or import, whilst robbing licence fee payers of 100s of thousands a year in wages.
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from Dean (hick) Saunders in Gary Lineker   
    Excellent news. Perhaps we can now have a football programme that just shows football without all the pointless nonsense in between of a bunch of ex players saying nothing of interest or import, whilst robbing licence fee payers of 100s of thousands a year in wages.
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from Kathcairns in Gary Lineker   
    Here's a random idea - let's just have a MOTD with just football.  No chat, no presenters, maybe no commentators either.  Just footie that we can make our own minds on what's good/bad, right or wrong.  You never know we might be able to have more actual football to fill the available time
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from Kathcairns in Gary Lineker   
    Excellent news. Perhaps we can now have a football programme that just shows football without all the pointless nonsense in between of a bunch of ex players saying nothing of interest or import, whilst robbing licence fee payers of 100s of thousands a year in wages.
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    ilkleyram got a reaction from Norman in Gary Lineker   
    Excellent news. Perhaps we can now have a football programme that just shows football without all the pointless nonsense in between of a bunch of ex players saying nothing of interest or import, whilst robbing licence fee payers of 100s of thousands a year in wages.
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