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I put £4 on Charlton to win just after we scored.
Cashed out with a £70 profit.
I'm not happy about the result but at least I've got an extra £70.

utter dogshit, f**ck off warne and ya tin pot tactics & take that stupid bobble hat with ya

I put £4 on Charlton to win just after we scored.
Cashed out with a £70 profit.
I'm not happy about the result but at least I've got an extra £70.

Because we are fans of a club and team that’s being ran by an incompetent PE teacher and we are where we are based on luck and a half decent squad. Tactics are some of the worse I’ve seen. And can you say he’s learnt from his mistakes? Team selection and formation switching ? Give your head a wobble if you think he’s taking us to the champ

You’re correct. Warne can’t do anything now for me to want him to stay.
i hate his football, hate his interviews and everything he does just annoys me now.

f*** OFF WARNE....NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Paul Warne simply cannot hack managing a club of our size. Get him gone.

WARNE OUT TONIGHT

You stick to your guns mate.
There are far more people that agree with you than this forum would suggest.
 

That’s despite Warne, not because of him. 

So predictable….. every home game the same  - I don’t mind admitting I seriously dislike our manager.

Because it happens every game. I’ll be optimistic once the PE teacher is gone.

I actually like Eric Steele.
I don't want happy happy joy joy, if want that I'll read the threads on here.

Apologies in advance if this just sounds like a load of waffle.
My issue with Paul Warne is that I don’t feel like he’s getting the most out of what he has available. Yes, we have lost our target man but you adjust accordingly and change the style to suit what you have. He seems to have a certain way of playing with very little ability or willingness to tweak it.
He’s a nice enough bloke. I don’t like his interviews and try to avoid them as they often make me cringe. 

I don’t think he has much ability for developing players, if anything it’s the opposite. How many players have been bit parts or seemed to have disappeared, for example Smith and Fornah etc. These are players he’s signed, if they don’t end up in and around the squad he’s basically wasted wages.
Yesterday was hard to watch when we were going toward. First half NML and Sibley were basically playing as wingers, out wide, expected to beat their man, try and cut inside and left with limited options. There was no runners from the midfield. Second half the only threat was Wilson from the right wing, who wasted multiple opportunities to play a ball into the box after doing the hard work.
We seem to have no ability to open team up with intricate passing. Everything is play it out wide and whip a cross in. With no height in the box, unless you play that ball across the floor likelihood is it will be cleared and us put back on the counter. I absolutely hate the fact that we can no longer pass a ball more than four times without losing it and 3 of those passes will be sideways or backwards.
The midfield was all wrong yesterday. Bird and Hourihane were guilty of far too many side and backward balls. It completely neutralises the attack. Get your head up and look for NML and Sibbs who should be waiting to be fed the ball and charge at the defence or hold it up for the midfield to catch up. 

For me, now we have Adam’s covering the middle of the park we have no excuse to not use players like Thompson and Fornah ahead of him to drive the ball forward. Both are capable of carrying the ball and trying to find a forward pass.
If we try and play how we do when Collins is in the team then signing Gayle will have been a waste of time and money.
The Academy is another concern, Paul has no interest in seeing players feed through. Weston for example was bright when he had his chances, only to disappear back to the academy not to be seen again. Fapetu and Robinson as well looked like very good prospects. 
 
I don’t feel like Paul’s using any of the resources he has available as well as he could, the style of play isn’t particularly interesting to watch, I won’t argue that we are in a good position for the final stretch of the season but also feel like this squad is capable of a far more exciting style of football and would definitely compete towards the top end of the league. 

Nor would I. I would expect him to resign.

I did mot say “Warne Out”, although elsewhere in this thread I said I have journeyed back to that side of the argument.
What I, and many others actually want isn’t an endless string of 5 - 0 victories. All we want is for the team to turn up and play football to our strengths. Instead Warne sets us up to be like labourers doffing their caps to the landed gentry. Despite what it looks like after the vast majority of our matches we are better than this, and it is the opposition who should be worried about us and having to set up to best deal with our threat. To always send a team out with a predominance of defensive-minded players tells the opposition we are running scared.
We are capable of so much more, such as playing a good passing game. After the fans gave Warne a right bowlocking we went through a phase of keeping the ball on the ground and even using the misfield a bit more, which coincided with our good run. But that has cone to an end and we have reverted to aerial assault mode - and the run has come to an end. Funny hiw that works, and we’ve done it two seasons in a row.
And yet again we went ahead and then sat back, hardly laying a glove on them once we’d scored.
You are right to point out that our stats do look rather good, but with that absolute tosh we keep dishing up shouts from the rooftops just how bad this division is. We aren’t where we are because we are so good, just that we are not as bad as the rest of them.
Being second to everything in midfield is a case in point. So many times our clearance headers are deliberately headed up and forwards so the ball travels in an arc. Up and forwards takes a higher priority than controlling the ball and/or getting the ball to a team mate, like the opposition seem to manage almost every time. It us what led to the equaliser. Hourihane does it all the tome, not just with headers. The number of times his skill set consists of just looping thr ball up and forwards to nowhere near a team mate is ridiculous. And he can do it blind, as shown by the number of times he sends the ball backwards over his shoulder …… to no one. And so many times there is the opportunity to get the ball down and give it to a team mate. But no ….. up and over it is, and then back come the opposition.
And re not going to Wembley. It isn’t from not wanting us to get promoted. It is because having retired last August my income has more then halved. My wife’s childminding business was killed off by lockdown, and she has been stabbed in the back by the increase in the women’s pensionable age by a Government who care as much for the poor, sick and elderly as Warne does for attractive football. As such I cannot justify blowing a massive hole in my budget to watch the team throw away yet another opportunity to get promoted. I don’t have the money to gamble on the remote chance we might fluke a win.
It doesn’t mean I don’t want promotion - I’ve been a Ram since the early 1970’s, so I’ve seen some rubbish in that time. But I have never been so angry  as I am now.
 

Pathetic 
Not liking the football we play and wanting us to lose are 2 massively different things.
Once again, any criticism is faced with strawman arguments 

It isn’t whether the players deserve to get there, its whether they deserve our support. 
 
I don’t fancy spending £200+ on an 18 hour day in order to collect a huge bagful of yet more disappointment. It took Warne several weeks to start communicating with the fans when we showed our frustration after the Stevenage matches, then he blathers on about how our backing really boosts the players who then repay us with dross like today.
If the fans who are in work did their day jobs like he and the players are doing theirs, the fans would be out of work in no time. So whole the fans struggle to pay their bills, Warne and the players continue to shuffle around half-heartedly on their way to becoming millionaires, if they aren’t there already.
The frustration is knowing that we are good enough to be sitting clear of Portsmouth if only Warne would let us.
This is the most negative I’ve been, and I was a Ram during the John Newman years, and the Tommy Docherty years.
GIVE YOURSELF A WOBBLE, WARNE AND LET THE BOYS PLAY FOOTBALL.

The only thing I'd say about the amortisation policy is that the fair value of players is very subjective but, for me, the principle of lower amortisation in the early years of a contract seemed fairly logical and more realistic than straight line amortisation. 
The only argument I could see against it in our situation is that we overpaid for older players with very little residual value, even taking that into account the end result would always have been the same.

Fair comment on the first point, I genuinely don't remember the last time I had really even heard him in public. 
I think even at the point in question we were not in much financial trouble which I could probably demonstrate if I went through the accounts.
As an accountant and auditor for 25 years myself, I also see myself very well qualified to comment on the amortisation matter and I'm completely baffled why anyone in the field would describe the policy as crooked, and the experts on the Independent Disciplinary Commission certainly didn't seem to take that view either.
Regarding the 3rd point, fair enough if you think an apology would go anywhere towards putting things right. I imagine if he did apologise you wouldn't accept it anyway given how you seem to view matters. Also perhaps he doesn't think he has anything to apologise for, after all it wasn't him that pulled the plug and stopped funding his business.

Just a few counter arguments here:-
When was the last time, pre administration, that he told everyone things were hunky dory? The last time I remember it was the Nunsfield House forum, at which point the ground sale had gone through and the amortisation policy agreed with The EFL. Even then from memory he said we were sailing close to the wind and were possibly be within hundred thousand of the limit. Seem to remember him saying it was why a good cup run would help. Happy to be corrected if I've got anything wrong here.
The amortisation policy that you seem to state he made up is actually quite very standard policy. Not standard in the football world but certainly very common in the business world. It was actually a clever idea which helped reflect reality much more than the current system did. Of course if there was anything wrong with it, the EFL had plenty of opportunity to point this out.
Not really sure what you want him to say about the MM era? Personally I'm happy to leave it in the past and also happy to trust Clowes' judgement if he thinks keeping him on is to the benefit of the club. Clowes is a Derby fan through and through and I'm sure if he thought Pearce was responsible for nearly destroying the club he loves, he would be long gone.

Sorry, being critical of Warne’s style of play and tactical nouse does not equal to ever wanting the team to lose. That’s plain nonsense.

She made Louis Armstrong.

He’s a PE teacher. His solutions will be to ‘run harder’ and ‘it’s not my fault if a defender makes a mistake’