Wolfie20 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 19 minutes ago, Justa said: Yep that’s really made me re-evaluate my predictions. Just staying up will be a massive achievement. This isn't logical. We knew which teams we'll be playing and who potentially we'd secure points against (theoretical of course) - the order in which they come is irrelevant. Carnero and Ilkestonian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 1 hour ago, Animal is a Ram said: I hate that December. Merry fricking Christmas. I'd bet one of those will be on TV too, just to make it even more miserable. Get used to it Animal this is the future 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 12 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Are we under some sort of transfer embargo then, can't sign any players? Yet again we will have a decent budget to spend - not parachute payments decent, but good enough. Why shouldn't we be up there rather than down there? It depends on who we sign, obviously, but until we see players coming through the door we have to brace ourselves for a tough season. This is a side that needs 12-14 signings, what we have at the moment would see us do well to match Rotherham's points total from last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ambitious said: It depends on who we sign, obviously, but until we see players coming through the door we have to brace ourselves for a tough season. This is a side that needs 12-14 signings, what we have at the moment would see us do well to match Rotherham's points total from last season. Which was why I started with 'are we under embargo'. I would expect us to be decent signings - the keepers being talked about 'sound' decent? So Nyambe, Nelson, Cashin, Elder + keeper - good back 4? If Back '5' then even easier to not have to get too many midfielders in. I put on the 'anticipate' thread aiming for Top 6 and I see no reason why we shouldn't realistically aim for that. Oh and wasn't Rotherham's total so poor because they no longer had Warne? Lots of comments on how well he had Rotherham doing at the 'top' of the Championship before we poached him. Edited June 26 by RoyMac5 DE56Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Which 🤬 decided both our games v Sunderland are midweek? rammieib 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 21 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Are we under some sort of transfer embargo then, can't sign any players? Yet again we will have a decent budget to spend - not parachute payments decent, but good enough. Why shouldn't we be up there rather than down there? Because according to you the manager isn’t good enough to get us promoted from league one and should have been sacked, or do you now admit you were wrong and you do think he’s a good manager, pray tell 🤷🏻♂️ Simmo’s left foot and RoyMac5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksRam Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 On fixture release day: Tamworthram, Mimester, RoyMac5 and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 4 minutes ago, Ambitious said: It depends on who we sign, obviously, but until we see players coming through the door we have to brace ourselves for a tough season. This is a side that needs 12-14 signings, what we have at the moment would see us do well to match Rotherham's points total from last season. Yes but does anyone realistically think we won't add to the squad? Therefore, trying to assess what sort of season we're likely to have (and comparing our chances to that which Rotherham achieved last season) is a pointless (no pun intended) exercise. I don't think anyone is seriously expecting it to be an easy season but, until we've seen who we've signed, how good they are (unlike some others it seems, judging by some of the comments on the transfer rumours thread, I don't watch enough non Derby football to know enough about most of the players being mentioned), and how they link together before we start writing off our chances of survival. archram, DE56Ram and angieram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Which was why I started with 'are we under embargo'. I would expect us to be decent signings - the keepers being talked about 'sound' decent? So Nyambe, Nelson, Cashin, Elder + keeper - good back 4? If Back '5' then even easier to not have to get too many midfielders in. I put on the 'anticipate' thread aiming for Top 6 and I see no reason why we shouldn't realistically aim for that. Oh and wasn't Rotherham's total so poor because they no longer had Warne? We don't really know our budget, in all honesty, so until we firm up some targets and actually get players into the club we are only speculating. I'm very much with you that I anticipate our budget to be healthy and we will get some good players in. However, I also believe we have a lot of work to do, so even if we had the competency within our recruitment to sign the right players there is a ton of work to do in order to get them all singing from the same hymn sheet (so to speak). I just feel that we have a complete rebuild and the expectation regardless of what talent comes through the door is to consolidate. It's a very real prospect that half the players we sign also don't perform as well as we had hoped, so if you have 12 players signed then you're doing pretty well if 6 of them are performing to standard. I'm factoring all that in and saying that we would do well to keep our head above water. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 8 minutes ago, Grumpy Git said: Which 🤬 decided both our games v Sunderland are midweek? It’s the new Exeter 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Three of our favourite weekends away, Bristol, Cardiff, and Norwich in January and February 🥶 April better with Swansea, Portsmouth and Hull. angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 We are back in the Championship, where we (apparently) deserve to be. Who did people expect we'd be playing? Belper Town? I'm looking forward to seeing how we do at a level where we're going to see slightly more football, our younger players with an extra year's experience and hopefully some exciting new signings. Bring it on! jimtastic56, DE56Ram, Kathcairns and 10 others 4 3 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Just now, Foreveram said: Three of our favourite weekends away, Bristol, Cardiff, and Norwich in January and February 🥶 April better with Swansea, Portsmouth and Hull. We have a return ticket for the Dockyards experience. Runs out 10 days before we are down there! Foreveram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield_Ram Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 12 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Which was why I started with 'are we under embargo'. I would expect us to be decent signings - the keepers being talked about 'sound' decent? So Nyambe, Nelson, Cashin, Elder + keeper - good back 4? If Back '5' then even easier to not have to get too many midfielders in. I put on the 'anticipate' thread aiming for Top 6 and I see no reason why we shouldn't realistically aim for that. Oh and wasn't Rotherham's total so poor because they no longer had Warne? Lots of comments on how well he had Rotherham doing at the 'top' of the Championship before we poached him. Realistically, a top 6 finish would be more of a target in our 2nd or 3rd season back if everything goes to plan. There are a lot of teams who will have bigger budgets than us next season and even those on a similar or slightly lower budget will probably only be looking to strengthen a small amount of positions, whereas we are in need of maybe 10-15 players. This could potentially lead to those being able to offer more enticing deals to players we’re targeting. Personally, I want to stay up next season and preferably have a boring April knowing that we’re staying up. On your second point, Rotherham were 5th when we poached Warne, having won 3, drawn 5 and lost once, averaging 1.56 ppg. This is significantly better than his previous seasons in the championship and potentially down to a lower sample size of matches. In previous seasons Warne has averaged 0.57, 0.87 and 0.91 ppg, which unsurprisingly were all relegation seasons. While it’s still early I expect us to do a bit better than this, but it is a big jump to go from this a playoff battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimtastic56 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 1 hour ago, Animal is a Ram said: I hate that December. Merry fricking Christmas. I'd bet one of those will be on TV too, just to make it even more miserable. December looks very tough. The Warne haters will have their knives drawn that month , and not just for the Turkey. But let’s see what kind of squad Mo Bob can rustle up for the boss. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 24 minutes ago, Foreveram said: Because according to you the manager isn’t good enough to get us promoted from league one and should have been sacked, or do you now admit you were wrong and you do think he’s a good manager, pray tell 🤷🏻♂️ I didn't say what I thought about Warne did I. You are so predictable, it's not worth discussing stuff with you at all, but here goes: I said "I put on the 'anticipate' thread aiming for Top 6 and I see no reason why we shouldn't realistically aim for that." So where do you think Warne is aiming for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 34 minutes ago, Grumpy Git said: Which 🤬 decided both our games v Sunderland are midweek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 18 minutes ago, angieram said: We are back in the Championship, where we (apparently) deserve to be. Who did people expect we'd be playing? Belper Town? I'm looking forward to seeing how we do at a level where we're going to see slightly more football, our younger players with an extra year's experience and hopefully some exciting new signings. Bring it on! I see what you did there 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazloW Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 I don’t think it’s realistic to think we could finish in the top 6. If we start with unrealistic expectations then things could turn against the team and manager quite quickly, which would be a shame. We can hope for top 6 obviously; we could also aspire to it… but don’t think k we should be expecting it. Obviously, this might change if we go out sign 10 £10m players but as it stands we are going to be building a squad sensibly and sustainably, which probably means taking some time to challenge. angieram, jimtastic56 and Kathcairns 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_Ram Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Traditional February collapse is going to be depressing this year when we lose to Oxford, QPR & Milwall. (Joke) Walkley Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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