Chris_Martin Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 5 hours ago, Kokosnuss said: The way we want to play football is just far too tactically advanced for these players to grasp before they've played 15-20 games together, obviously. warne's tactics are that far ahead of the curve, he's behind it🤣 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Archied said: Honestly , read that back and if you can’t figure why any season ticket holders , away followers , rtv watcher s might not think too highly of it then I’m at a loss😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: What’s the xbpb of the above ? Why oh why can’t people just just understand I’m right , I’ve given them the numbers 😂😂😂😂😂 Chris_Martin, DCFC Kicks and David Graham Brown 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 5 hours ago, Curtains said: Well I think he’s trying to build a squad to get us promoted. I for one am happy with his signings . I think you will be proved wrongly and we will get Top 2 and then I will just 🤐 quietly be ever so satisfied as will Paul Warne. you didn't actually answer the question there😅 what are warne's tactics ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted September 6, 2023 Author Share Posted September 6, 2023 13 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: you didn't actually answer the question there😅 what are warne's tactics ? Fluid and adaptable as far as I am concerned. I think some people do the guy a disservice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 4 hours ago, Chris_Martin said: What was the average ppg before February? I'm guessing a lot higher than 1.37, so therefore we have declined. The point in your post I was querying was that we had got worse with Warne's signings - maybe he should have more than 6 games with the new signings before making a more realistic assessment of where we are likely to be come Nov/Dec. I agree that pre-Feb we were definitely performing better and that's the level we should be looking to attain. David Graham Brown and Chris_Martin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 11 minutes ago, Curtains said: Fluid and adaptable as far as I am concerned. I think some people do the guy a disservice so your saying he doesn't have a specific style... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted September 6, 2023 Author Share Posted September 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: so your saying he doesn't have a specific style... He is varying it depending on the opposition. So yes I’d have to say he changes the style to suit. When the players get used to it all we will be flying. You heard it here first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Curtains said: He is varying it depending on the opposition. So yes I’d have to say he changes the style to suit. When the players get used to it all we will be flying. You heard it here first. That's good. Evolution will catch up the more time they spend chasing balls 15 foot of the ground I suppose. I expect the wide players to evolve first as they're first point of call chasing them into the corners. David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted September 6, 2023 Author Share Posted September 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: That's good. Evolution will catch up the more time they spend chasing balls 15 foot of the ground I suppose. I expect the wide players to evolve first as they're first point of call chasing them into the corners. Keep the faith. Walkley Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 2 hours ago, Archied said: Would anyone agree that even the simple shots on target stat can give a totally misleading slant on a game you havnt seen , 3 screamers that hit the post v v 3 never in a million years , keeper throws his hat on scuffs come to mind We often discuss this during a match, someone can have a speculative shot from thirty yards that the keeper catches without moving, shot on target. Someone shoots from the edge of the area, keeper nowhere near it, ball hits the underside of the bar and bounces away. Shot off target, which one gets the crowd to their feet. Blocked shots don’t even count in the general stats for a match, so if a defender makes a goal line clearance rather than the keeper saving it then it’s not even registered. Possession can be very misleading, if a team go two goals up early on they could be quite happy to let the opposition have the ball in their own half so could end up winning comfortably with less possession. A player registered as having only a few touches during a game could be doing a lot running off the ball giving a teammate more space. Stats have their place but they will never be a substitute for watching a game or a player with your own eyes. David Graham Brown, FlyBritishMidland, angieram and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 8 minutes ago, Foreveram said: We often discuss this during a match, someone can have a speculative shot from thirty yards that the keeper catches without moving, shot on target. Someone shoots from the edge of the area, keeper nowhere near it, ball hits the underside of the bar and bounces away. Shot off target, which one gets the crowd to their feet. Blocked shots don’t even count in the general stats for a match, so if a defender makes a goal line clearance rather than the keeper saving it then it’s not even registered. Possession can be very misleading, if a team go two goals up early on they could be quite happy to let the opposition have the ball in their own half so could end up winning comfortably with less possession. A player registered as having only a few touches during a game could be doing a lot running off the ball giving a teammate more space. Stats have their place but they will never be a substitute for watching a game or a player with your own eyes. Which is where xG comes in to it... David Graham Brown, Lac291884, Chris_Martin and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foreveram Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Ghost of Clough said: Which is where xG comes in to it... Which is something I am not going to debate cos you obviously know far more about it than I could even pretend to know 😂 David Graham Brown and Comrade 86 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, Foreveram said: We often discuss this during a match, someone can have a speculative shot from thirty yards that the keeper catches without moving, shot on target. Someone shoots from the edge of the area, keeper nowhere near it, ball hits the underside of the bar and bounces away. Shot off target, which one gets the crowd to their feet. Blocked shots don’t even count in the general stats for a match, so if a defender makes a goal line clearance rather than the keeper saving it then it’s not even registered. Possession can be very misleading, if a team go two goals up early on they could be quite happy to let the opposition have the ball in their own half so could end up winning comfortably with less possession. A player registered as having only a few touches during a game could be doing a lot running off the ball giving a teammate more space. Stats have their place but they will never be a substitute for watching a game or a player with your own eyes. Spot on , yet we have posters banging they’re heads against the wall because some of us won’t accept they’re stats to get on the sack warne bus and Bolton are streets ahead of us view, us silly old stuck in our ways fools 😂😂😂 Foreveram and David Graham Brown 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Are stats the new working from home for football fans ? Who needs to go to games anymore or watch them on tv , spend a few hours going over our stats and the stats of the rest of the teams in our league and hey presto Curtains, David Graham Brown, Walkley Ram and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkley Ram Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 45 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: That's good. Evolution will catch up the more time they spend chasing balls 15 foot of the ground I suppose. I expect the wide players to evolve first as they're first point of call chasing them into the corners. No chance of that, Bird is injured. Gee SCREAMER !! and David Graham Brown 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Someone broke down the signings and on paper our squad is better than last seasons. We’ve lost 3 very good teams at this level so if we’re not top 6 surely the blame lies with the manager? If you don’t think our squad is better then what have recruitment been doing these past few months. To conclude I don’t think people’s expectations are too high. Whether it’s too early for some of the moaning? Maybe…But it’s a fine balance between giving PW a fair crack of the whip and not wanting to waste a season with the wrong man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Curtains said: He is varying it depending on the opposition. So yes I’d have to say he changes the style to suit. When the players get used to it all we will be flying. You heard it here first. Again, can you say what style(s) warne is actually using ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted September 6, 2023 Author Share Posted September 6, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: Again, can you say what style(s) warne is actually using ? Don’t you watch the games lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted September 6, 2023 Author Share Posted September 6, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, TomTom92 said: Someone broke down the signings and on paper our squad is better than last seasons. We’ve lost 3 very good teams at this level so if we’re not top 6 surely the blame lies with the manager? If you don’t think our squad is better then what have recruitment been doing these past few months. To conclude I don’t think people’s expectations are too high. Whether it’s too early for some of the moaning? Maybe…But it’s a fine balance between giving PW a fair crack of the whip and not wanting to waste a season with the wrong man. So if he is the wrong man how much would sacking him and his staff cost. So in summation it’s an irrelevance Edited September 6, 2023 by Curtains change a to an Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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