Liam Thompson

[The Scarlet Pimpernel]

So has the current manager improved him? 

[RoyMac5]

8 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said:

So has the current manager improved him? 

Has he? Last season it seemed he saw him as a CDM, the start of this he was a wingback and then finally he decided to play him as an attacking midfielder. Has he improved him, or just recognised his strengths (thanks to Bird's injuries)? It seems Warne is turning into a lucky manager, first Waggy and now Tommo! 😄 Who next Sibs?

Edited August 29, 2023 by RoyMac5

[kevinhectoring]

18 hours ago, MadAmster said:

Hourihane is probably safe as he's the skipper

Wonder whether the players knew they were voting on season long team selection.

Quite possible that by the time Bird is back the best midfield will be Bird, Tommo, Fornah, Smith. It will take a lot for Warne to drop H from the starting line up. That means that if eventually he decides it’s the best thing to do, it will be after a prolonged period of starting with the wrong Xl.  

If they were to vote again maybe it would be Waggy. Still recall him on the touch line after scoring in the mad last-day-of-the-season west brom game

[S8TY]

1 hour ago, kevinhectoring said:

Wonder whether the players knew they were voting on season long team selection.

Quite possible that by the time Bird is back the best midfield will be Bird, Tommo, Fornah, Smith. It will take a lot for Warne to drop H from the starting line up. That means that if eventually he decides it’s the best thing to do, it will be after a prolonged period of starting with the wrong Xl.  

If they were to vote again maybe it would be Waggy. Still recall him on the touch line after scoring in the mad last-day-of-the-season west brom game

I don't get how a lot don't seem to rate Hourihane ? I'm one that does and think he deserves his place, he knows where the goal is and that is a good trait as a midfielder and wouldn't be surprised to see him get 7-10 goals if Fornah is sitting deeper to cover 

[Ghost of Clough]

12 hours ago, DavesaRam said:

Actually I have to agree with you. I was thinking of Tommo when he first appeared, which I thought was last season. It was actually before then, and apart form the travesty of the FA Cup match against Chorley when we were forced to filed a team of babies, he made his 1st team mark under Rooney. But then he came under the Rosenior way of doing things which did involve playing it safe in order to keep the ball, instead of tying to attack and risk losing it, hence you remember his sideways passing last year. Sad that it took him so long to get over it.

Minutes played under each manager:
Rooney - 1611
Warne - 792
Rosenior - 297

I'm not sure you can put the couple of months under Rosenior as the reason for "sideways and backwards passing". We've gone from having static forwards or those who prefer it to feet (Kazim, Collins, McGoldrick) to players who are better at running onto the ball (Waghorn, Washington)

[Ghost of Clough]

1 hour ago, S8TY said:

I don't get how a lot don't seem to rate Hourihane ? I'm one that does and think he deserves his place, he knows where the goal is and that is a good trait as a midfielder and wouldn't be surprised to see him get 7-10 goals if Fornah is sitting deeper to cover 

In the right system Hourihane would flourish. Box-to-box with high defensive responsibility is not the right role for him.

[therealhantsram]

44 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Minutes played under each manager:
Rooney - 1611
Warne - 792
Rosenior - 297

 

Wow! Just taking a moment imagining you at work figuring that all out on a spreadsheet  (and flipping the screen to Outlook when the manager walks by) 😂

[Ghost of Clough]

19 minutes ago, therealhantsram said:

Wow! Just taking a moment imagining you at work figuring that all out on a spreadsheet  (and flipping the screen to Outlook when the manager walks by) 😂

Not far from the truth most of the time but not on this occasion.

Link here

[brady1993]

19 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said:

In the right system Hourihane would flourish. Box-to-box with high defensive responsibility is not the right role for him.

It's something I've largely felt since he's joined but I think at this point in his career he should be thought of as a 10 primarily. 

He's too peripheral to play elsewhere right know but he does still have the ability to really effect games by getting into scoring opportunities and with his final ball.

[brady1993]

20 hours ago, S8TY said:

I don't get how a lot don't seem to rate Hourihane ? I'm one that does and think he deserves his place, he knows where the goal is and that is a good trait as a midfielder and wouldn't be surprised to see him get 7-10 goals if Fornah is sitting deeper to cover 

I think both the people who rate him and don't rate him talk about two sides of the same coin. 

He really can meaningfully impact a game but he also often goes completely missing. He's largely a luxury player but we just haven't really played him as such which exercerbates his faults and tbh downplays his strengths a little. 

 

[Premier ram]

The next bit of business for the Rams is to get Thommo. A new contract

[Dcfcrams89]

Think he will struggle to get back in when he recovers from injury. Heard he’s out for up to 10 weeks.

[Gerry Daly]

33 minutes ago, Dcfcrams89 said:

Think he will struggle to get back in when he recovers from injury. Heard he’s out for up to 10 weeks.

Eh? Where have you heard that?

[Dcfcrams89]

2 hours ago, Gerry Daly said:

Eh? Where have you heard that?

My mate knows somebody at the club, not sure who and has told me that Thompson is out for upto 10 weeks, I guess we will have to wait for the team news too see 

[Gerry Daly]

Thats terrible news if true, he's been key to our upturn in form. I haven't seen this reported anywhere else except a reference to Embleton being signed because we have an injury i.e. one we didn't already have 

[Rampant]

Any updates on a possible return for Liam?

[DiggerB]

Warne said he was running on the grass with JJ in his RD post -match

[Gabby'sThighs]

On 29/08/2023 at 10:05, S8TY said:

I don't get how a lot don't seem to rate Hourihane ? I'm one that does and think he deserves his place, he knows where the goal is and that is a good trait as a midfielder and wouldn't be surprised to see him get 7-10 goals if Fornah is sitting deeper to cover 

this frustrates me too! he's a class player, excellent passer of the ball. probably sits too deep but that's not up to him.

fans from other clubs  can't believe we have a player of his calibre yet he gets no credit from some quarters, ironically because he 'doesn't run around enough'.

[Srg]

18 minutes ago, Gabby'sThighs said:

this frustrates me too! he's a class player, excellent passer of the ball. probably sits too deep but that's not up to him.

fans from other clubs  can't believe we have a player of his calibre yet he gets no credit from some quarters, ironically because he 'doesn't run around enough'.

Or because fans from other clubs have heard of him and don’t have to watch what he actually does every week. Weird measuring stick. 

[BaianoPOTY98]

17 minutes ago, Gabby'sThighs said:

this frustrates me too! he's a class player, excellent passer of the ball. probably sits too deep but that's not up to him.

fans from other clubs  can't believe we have a player of his calibre yet he gets no credit from some quarters, ironically because he 'doesn't run around enough'.

I’m not sure that Warne knows is best position ie an holding midfielder or more advanced. For me Hourihane playing alongside Smith and Bird doesn’t work.