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10 hours ago, Ramarena said:

The Russian air transport agency has released the list of people on board:

Evgeniy Prigozhin 

Dimitry Utkin

Sergey Propustin

Evgeniy Makaryan 

Totmin Alexander

Valeriy Chekalov

Nikolay Matuseev

And the rest were crew.

Prig, Utkin and Chekalov were all top brass and the others are believed to be their security/bodyguards.

So if this is real, it begs the question, why did a good portion of Wagners leadership get on that plane together?

Someone's done their homework and someone's failed, Were they off to a "peace deal" with Putin, For those 3 to be on the same plane will only fuel the conspiracy theorists that this was a conspiracy 😉 

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3 hours ago, The Last Post said:

Someone's done their homework and someone's failed, Were they off to a "peace deal" with Putin, For those 3 to be on the same plane will only fuel the conspiracy theorists that this was a conspiracy 😉 

The current “theory” is that Putin tasked the GRU with replacing them in Africa and they all boarded the plane to go to Moscow to speak/demand he backs off.

Not sure how close to the money this is but it’s definitely plausible.

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6 minutes ago, Ramarena said:

The current “theory” is that Putin tasked the GRU with replacing them in Africa and they all boarded the plane to go to Moscow to speak/demand he backs off.

Not sure how close to the money this is but it’s definitely plausible.

Doubt we'll get the real reason all were on the same flight, A British intelligence officer said on Sky that it was an inside job and a bomb was put in a bottle of Wine as a case of Wine was given to them before take off...the person who gave them the Wine was a Woman dressed in Blue as a Nun 😁

Sky Report

'Bomb in a wine crate' downed jet carrying Prigozhin, former intelligence officer suggests

We've heard a lot of theories around what downed the jet supposedly carrying Yevgeny Prigozhin. 

Early suggestions ranged from engine troubles to surface-to-air missiles. 

Rumours continue to circulate online that the passengers on the plane were gifted with a crate of wine, which later exploded.

These claims are unverified. 

"Certainly it's an inside job, the suggestion is that it's a bomb in a wine crate," former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele told Sky News.

"That's a kind of ironic end for Putin's former caterer"."

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6 minutes ago, The Last Post said:

Doubt we'll get the real reason all were on the same flight, A British intelligence officer said on Sky that it was an inside job and a bomb was put in a bottle of Wine as a case of Wine was given to them before take off...the person who gave them the Wine was a Woman dressed in Blue as a Nun 😁

Sky Report

'Bomb in a wine crate' downed jet carrying Prigozhin, former intelligence officer suggests

We've heard a lot of theories around what downed the jet supposedly carrying Yevgeny Prigozhin. 

Early suggestions ranged from engine troubles to surface-to-air missiles. 

Rumours continue to circulate online that the passengers on the plane were gifted with a crate of wine, which later exploded.

These claims are unverified. 

"Certainly it's an inside job, the suggestion is that it's a bomb in a wine crate," former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele told Sky News.

"That's a kind of ironic end for Putin's former caterer"."

Pretty obvious that the only way anyone could possibly know that the plane was downed by a bomb in a wine crate, was if they had actual knowledge that this was the case. Not like that could be deduced from the burning wreckage

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17 minutes ago, The Last Post said:

Doubt we'll get the real reason all were on the same flight, A British intelligence officer said on Sky that it was an inside job and a bomb was put in a bottle of Wine as a case of Wine was given to them before take off...the person who gave them the Wine was a Woman dressed in Blue as a Nun 😁

Sky Report

'Bomb in a wine crate' downed jet carrying Prigozhin, former intelligence officer suggests

We've heard a lot of theories around what downed the jet supposedly carrying Yevgeny Prigozhin. 

Early suggestions ranged from engine troubles to surface-to-air missiles. 

Rumours continue to circulate online that the passengers on the plane were gifted with a crate of wine, which later exploded.

These claims are unverified. 

"Certainly it's an inside job, the suggestion is that it's a bomb in a wine crate," former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele told Sky News.

"That's a kind of ironic end for Putin's former caterer"."

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33 minutes ago, Ramarena said:

The current “theory” is that Putin tasked the GRU with replacing them in Africa and they all boarded the plane to go to Moscow to speak/demand he backs off.

 

I think we'll start to hear a lot more about Redut/Redoubt now as the primary band of mercenaries working for the GRU/replacing Wagner. 

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Telegram channel VChk-OGPU is claiming Prigozhin and Utkin have been officially identified at the morgue, by one of their Wagner deputies. 

They say Prig was identified by missing part to one of his fingers that he suffered during his time in prison decades ago and Utkin was identified by his Nazi tattoos. 

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10 hours ago, Stive Pesley said:

Pretty obvious that the only way anyone could possibly know that the plane was downed by a bomb in a wine crate, was if they had actual knowledge that this was the case. Not like that could be deduced from the burning wreckage

I shall be checking my next Laithwaites delivery very carefully.

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Oh dear, looks like “the great Slav” tried to get out of the danger zone after Prigozhin’s demise and was arrested in Finland.

This guy is a proper POS and Finland has arrested him for war crimes in Ukraine

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/wagner-channels-say-russian-citizen-arrested-finland-is-top-fighter-2023-08-25/

Rusich is a Wagner affiliate who’ve been on the front line in Ukraine, mainly around Karkhiv and Bakhmut. They are the group that are linked with beheading video of the Ukrainian POW after they posted it on their Telegram channel. Seems to be why he was arrested.

In other news Wagner graves are being demolished by the Russian state https://www.thedailybeast.com/wagner-fighters-graves-reportedly-bulldozed-in-russia-after-prigozhin-crash

And Telegram channels have Ukraine allegedly making significant progress beyond Robotyne.

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2 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

BBC run a piece about how Ukraine losses are "mounting up" but most of the individuals examples quoted seem to be months ago. Is this a major concern at this stage?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-66581217

 

It's a war of attrition and Russia have more troops. They need to make a peace settlement. It will hurt but they will have to give up the Crimea. 

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