Ravabeerbelly Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 7 minutes ago, jono said: You really want a spat don’t you . How dull. it isn’t naive to correct you on your false assumption. ?♂️?♂️ Have no idea what you’re on about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, Ravabeerbelly said: ?♂️?♂️ Have no idea what you’re on about I do you made a simple, naive statement that only the Admins had a say whether a player went or stayed. Not true when a player has a contract. Now, it is possible that the Admins can encourage, foment, agitate, lead; or whatever, to get a player to leave, but quite simply, there could be negative financial consequences if the player followed those encouragements .. id est .. the need to pay for cancelling his contract which could result in a lump sum outgoing that might outweigh wage savings. They (the admins) can encourage, drive, pressure, but they cannot force without consequence. You implied that this was not the case. Wrong, factually and financially I know exactly what I am on about. Sadly you seem to lack a basic understanding of law, money and contractual obligations. I am not denying the Admins are in the pound seats, but I am saying they can’t act with impunity, something you don’t seem to recognise. i-Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 9 hours ago, Ravabeerbelly said: Costs money or saves money?? As I said, at the risk of being a league 1 footballer, Festy will only be turning down offers himself if there are better ones available. This notion of loyalty and turning down Forest is for the birds. He's out of contract in the summer. May as well stay here and leave on a free with more wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravabeerbelly Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: He's out of contract in the summer. May as well stay here and leave on a free with more wages. I think I suggested he could do that in the first place? Edited January 27, 2022 by Ravabeerbelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravabeerbelly Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 10 minutes ago, jono said: I do you made a simple, naive statement that only the Admins had a say whether a player went or stayed. Not true when a player has a contract. Now, it is possible that the Admins can encourage, foment, agitate, lead; or whatever, to get a player to leave, but quite simply, there could be negative financial consequences if the player followed those encouragements .. id est .. the need to pay for cancelling his contract which could result in a lump sum outgoing that might outweigh wage savings. They (the admins) can encourage, drive, pressure, but they cannot force without consequence. You implied that this was not the case. Wrong, factually and financially I know exactly what I am on about. Sadly you seem to lack a basic understanding of law, money and contractual obligations. I am not denying the Admins are in the pound seats, but I am saying they can’t act with impunity, something you don’t seem to recognise. I have no doubt that factually correct that no one can FORCE a player to leave. But we aren’t talking legally and contractually. We are taking real world and what would actually happen. Fortunately I know exactly what I’m talking about with that and you seem to lack a basic understanding of the reality rather than the legality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 5 minutes ago, Ravabeerbelly said: I have no doubt that factually correct that no one can FORCE a player to leave. But we aren’t talking legally and contractually. We are taking real world and what would actually happen. Fortunately I know exactly what I’m talking about with that and you seem to lack a basic understanding of the reality rather than the legality. You said something unequivocal. It was inaccurate. If you want to move the goal posts join the EFL, you’ll fit in well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravabeerbelly Posted January 27, 2022 Share Posted January 27, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, jono said: You said something unequivocal. It was inaccurate. If you want to move the goal posts join the EFL, you’ll fit in well. You need to go back and read what I actually said. What I actually said was the admins would be the only people accepting or refusing offers. I said nothing about forcing a player to leave or not. As I’m sure you’re aware accepting an offer and a player agreeing to leave aren’t the same thing…..but you know that don’t you. Or you can carry on with the conspiracy nonsense and blaming other organisations for the problems a football club have brought on themselves. Edited January 27, 2022 by Ravabeerbelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 9 hours ago, Ravabeerbelly said: You need to go back and read what I actually said. What I actually said was the admins would be the only people accepting or refusing offers. I said nothing about forcing a player to leave or not. As I’m sure you’re aware accepting an offer and a player agreeing to leave aren’t the same thing…..but you know that don’t you. Or you can carry on with the conspiracy nonsense and blaming other organisations for the problems a football club have brought on themselves. Yawn yawn yawn Ravabeerbelly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 I'm happy to go with what the guy on Twitter reported - that Festy said he's "Derby, through and through" and that he's going nowhere at this time. Ravabeerbelly and TomG 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravabeerbelly Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Don’t say I didn’t say….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Ravabeerbelly said: Don’t say I didn’t say….. Didn't say what? That Festy wants a football contract that runs after the end of this season? ? Ravabeerbelly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Reports say he's in italy doing a medical...when actually he's in Amsterdam with his Mrs having a stroll down the red light district ? TomG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted February 4, 2022 Share Posted February 4, 2022 Festy hold fire I think if mel offered get accteded then I think get a new deal at Derby. TomG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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