PistoldPete Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 7 hours ago, Tyler Durden said: Not debating that, just think Rooney was a bit naive in bringing up his frustrations in the open as it now starts to shift the focus or blame away from Boro and the EFL when we had some serious traction going which now looks like to be stalling again. Ashley is reported to be wanting quantuma to cut their fees. If they are selling our best young talent over the head of the manager then that is exactly what quantuma should be doing foregoing their fee. Maharan, i-Ram and jimtastic56 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 8 hours ago, Tyler Durden said: I agree but their primary allegiance isnt to the fans of the club or the club itself that's the issue we've been landed with. Totally correct,as much as people go on they don't have to tell us anything,there is the matter of confidentiality for a start. r_wilcockson and Tamworthram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 32 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: All they have to tell him is operating costs,they are running the club and don't have to tell the manager anything. The manager can tell him he doesn’t need this poo and quit. That would save them on operating costs but how does that look to our American buyers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSox Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 I've sent further tweets to some MP's this morning, following Matt Slater's comments in The Athletic today. Suggest anyone else that has the time does so too. This is getting very ominous. ? Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 17 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: I’ve defended quantuma up to now even though they have consistently missed their Targets. I am not defending this. It is unacceptable. when is the next supporter group meeting? Time to challenge quantuma and the fees they are charging. What targets have they missed? They have never given a date for anything,it has always been we hope,we expect and it would be unwise for them to say anything other. Can't blame them for keeping quiet, they used the word imminently once,it didn't happen and they got vilified for it because it didn't happen. Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 19 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: Ashley is reported to be wanting quantuma to cut their fees. If they are selling our best young talent over the head of the manager then that is exactly what quantuma should be doing foregoing their fee. Really,why should they cut their fees,if they have to sell our best young talent it's for a reason,you,i or anyone else (including Rooney) are not at liberty to find out what is going on behind locked doors,they can't just do as they like,they have set practices to follow and if they don't then they get in serious trouble and can be struck off as insolvency practitioners. Maharan, r_wilcockson, i-Ram and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSox Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 22 minutes ago, RedSox said: I've sent further tweets to some MP's this morning, following Matt Slater's comments in The Athletic today. Suggest anyone else that has the time does so too. This is getting very ominous. ? Black & White Together have requested a meeting with Quantuma, so let's see whether they have the grace to explain what the hell is going on - or not! I konw what my money is on..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 30 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: Ashley is reported to be wanting quantuma to cut their fees. If they are selling our best young talent over the head of the manager then that is exactly what quantuma should be doing foregoing their fee. In what universe would you expect a professional business brought in to do a specific piece of work to waive their fees for several months work? A nice though but it will be a cold day in hell before that’s ever going to happen. jono, Maharan, r_wilcockson and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: Really,why should they cut their fees,if they have to sell our best young talent it's for a reason,you,i or anyone else (including Rooney) are not at liberty to find out what is going on behind locked doors,they can't just do as they like,they have set practices to follow and if they don't then they get in serious trouble and can be struck off as insolvency practitioners. Actually Rooney should be aware. He’s the manager of a football team. He won’t have a say necessarily but it should be good practice to tell him. Not everything will be confidential. Transfers etc should be communicated. They also have told Rooney they won’t be selling players and then have changed their mind. It’s not on to mislead people, especially the manager of a club fighting for survival. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 25 minutes ago, RedSox said: I've sent further tweets to some MP's this morning, following Matt Slater's comments in The Athletic today. Suggest anyone else that has the time does so too. This is getting very ominous. ? What do the comments say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 1 minute ago, TheresOnlyWanChope said: Actually Rooney should be aware. He’s the manager of a football team. He won’t have a say necessarily but it should be good practice to tell him. Not everything will be confidential. Transfers etc should be communicated. They also have told Rooney they won’t be selling players and then have changed their mind. It’s not on to mislead people, especially the manager of a club fighting for survival. Maybe he could ask the club doctor for the inside track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, TheresOnlyWanChope said: Actually Rooney should be aware. He’s the manager of a football team. He won’t have a say necessarily but it should be good practice to tell him. Not everything will be confidential. Transfers etc should be communicated. They also have told Rooney they won’t be selling players and then have changed their mind. It’s not on to mislead people, especially the manager of a club fighting for survival. Just that,he is the manager of a football team,they are here to sort the finances out,have they changed their minds about selling players,they probably gave him that assurance for the transfer window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSox Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: What do the comments say? "My guess is Quantuma is stuck. Only exit is to take club to the edge & give all creditors a choice between something & nothing. If it works, everyone compromises & Derby start in L1 (most likely on -15). It it doesn’t, it’s time to start again, like Bury, Macc, Chester etc." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, atherstoneram said: Just that,he is the manager of a football team,they are here to sort the finances out,have they changed their minds about selling players,they probably gave him that assurance for the transfer window? He’s the manager of the football team therefore he’s responsible for playing squad - any transfers affect that and should be communicated properly to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, TheresOnlyWanChope said: He’s the manager of the football team therefore he’s responsible for playing squad - any transfers affect that and should be communicated properly to him. I am sure if it was a player who affected the playing squad he would have been told beforehand. Tamworthram and r_wilcockson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAM1966 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 IMO I think the Administrators have made some naive mistakes. Firstly and most importantly, thry ignored the potential of £51m of debt, these guys are professionals, its a grave rrror of judgement to assume that any perspective buyer, would take this risk on. Would you buy a house knowing that there was a chance it could cost you double? They must have realised the Boro and Wycombe were not going to drop thier cases so why leave it until the end of Jan to start dealing with them? Its poor management, yet they are supposed to be the experts. Accepting the -9pts, they claim this was to have it done and dusted to make the club saleable. It was a crazy move, they should have pitched the club as expect -9pts but, there is some hope with the appeal. Just rolled over and continue to get shafted. They also thought that the EFL would act in a fair manner, which they clearly aren't. Parrys claims on SS tgat we are waiting on a PB to be announced by Derby was misleading to delect the smelly brown stuff. SS should of challenged him on that, poor journalism and he hot way with it! Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 18 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: In what universe would you expect a professional business brought in to do a specific piece of work to waive their fees for several months work? A nice though but it will be a cold day in hell before that’s ever going to happen. If ashley is saying its a condition of deal that they reduce their fees, what's the alternative? They charge full whack but no deal to save the club? Which means their reputation is absolute toast, they will never get a gig like this again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atherstoneram Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Just now, PistoldPete said: If ashley is saying its a condition of deal that they reduce their fees, what's the alternative? They charge full whack but no deal to save the club? Which means their reputation is absolute toast, they will never get a gig like this again. Why should they reduce their fees,if Ashley is that keen on buying the club he knows the conditions of sale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 6 minutes ago, RAM1966 said: IMO I think the Administrators have made some naive mistakes. Firstly and most importantly, thry ignored the potential of £51m of debt, these guys are professionals, its a grave rrror of judgement to assume that any perspective buyer, would take this risk on. Would you buy a house knowing that there was a chance it could cost you double? They must have realised the Boro and Wycombe were not going to drop thier cases so why leave it until the end of Jan to start dealing with them? Its poor management, yet they are supposed to be the experts. Accepting the -9pts, they claim this was to have it done and dusted to make the club saleable. It was a crazy move, they should have pitched the club as expect -9pts but, there is some hope with the appeal. Just rolled over and continue to get shafted. They also thought that the EFL would act in a fair manner, which they clearly aren't. Parrys claims on SS tgat we are waiting on a PB to be announced by Derby was misleading to delect the smelly brown stuff. SS should of challenged him on that, poor journalism and he hot way with it! Thoughts? They may have been naive in thinking Boro Wycombe and EFL would act reasonably . As for Sky Sports not challenging Rick Parry, you do realise who sponsors Sky Sports? The EFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 14 minutes ago, RedSox said: "My guess is Quantuma is stuck. Only exit is to take club to the edge & give all creditors a choice between something & nothing. If it works, everyone compromises & Derby start in L1 (most likely on -15). It it doesn’t, it’s time to start again, like Bury, Macc, Chester etc." Ta. Matt on Twitter. Just followed that tweet up with: RedSox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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