Gee SCREAMER !! Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 (edited) . Edited November 13, 2021 by Gee SCREAMER !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 53 minutes ago, sage said: or he tried to pay hoofball which ddn't suit the players and Anya was our worst signing of all time. Did he. He didn't fancy Martin in the side and was certainly looking for more aggression. We pulled out of a free tranfer for Sol Bamba because the hierachy didn't think he fitted the Derby way. Got promoted with Cardiff as captain the next year. Rowett had success using Vydra in that kind of formation with Jerome. Anyas a strange one. we overpaid for a 29 year old and a 4 year deal was crazy. Did Pearson just say I like that player though, perhaps he assumed he'd get a 3 year deal or 2. That wasn't his remit. he was good for 3 games, got dropped after Pearson left then decided he didn't want to play anymore. Not the first but players normally leave if they don't play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yani P Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Unlucky Alf said: Well yes, It took MM long enough to realise he wasn't playong the "Derby way" ? I mean he had us top of the league on Boxing Day...he had to go... Comrade 86 and Ram-Alf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 24 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Did he. He didn't fancy Martin in the side and was certainly looking for more aggression. We pulled out of a free tranfer for Sol Bamba because the hierachy didn't think he fitted the Derby way. Got promoted with Cardiff as captain the next year. Rowett had success using Vydra in that kind of formation with Jerome. Anyas a strange one. we overpaid for a 29 year old and a 4 year deal was crazy. Did Pearson just say I like that player though, perhaps he assumed he'd get a 3 year deal or 2. That wasn't his remit. he was good for 3 games, got dropped after Pearson left then decided he didn't want to play anymore. Not the first but players normally leave if they don't play. It’s interesting that Martin is his first choice striker at Bristol currently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know nuffin Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Unlucky Alf said: Well yes, It took MM long enough to realise he wasn't playong the "Derby way" ? So Chris K was young once! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Just now, Ramarena said: It’s interesting that Martin is his first choice striker at Bristol currently. I'm not sure how much he plays to honest. If he is though it would indicate that he wasn't against playing Martin, he just didn't fancy playing him in that format/ didn't think he was interested/he wanted a move. That was at the start of his stomach issues as well amongst other personal areas of his life that were rumoured to be occurring with him at the time. A mutually beneficial move may have been agreed with incoming loan fee. Good player as he was, against Burton away before he left, he just looked heavy and horrifically immobile. Ramarena 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 29 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Did he. He didn't fancy Martin in the side and was certainly looking for more aggression. We pulled out of a free tranfer for Sol Bamba because the hierachy didn't think he fitted the Derby way. Got promoted with Cardiff as captain the next year. Rowett had success using Vydra in that kind of formation with Jerome. Anyas a strange one. we overpaid for a 29 year old and a 4 year deal was crazy. Did Pearson just say I like that player though, perhaps he assumed he'd get a 3 year deal or 2. That wasn't his remit. he was good for 3 games, got dropped after Pearson left then decided he didn't want to play anymore. Not the first but players normally leave if they don't play. There's not many players i'd put in the same bracket as Awfull Anya...Mick Coop being one, We tried and tried to unload Anya, But he wouldn't have it...stayed on the vast wage he was getting, I must say either his Agent was at the top of his game...or our contract team were shocking. Gee SCREAMER !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 1 minute ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: I'm not sure how much he plays to honest. If he is though it would indicate that he wasn't against playing Martin, he just didn't fancy playing him in that format/ didn't think he was interested/he wanted a move. That was at the start of his stomach issues as well amongst other personal areas of his life that were rumoured to be occurring with him at the time. A mutually beneficial move may have been agreed with incoming loan fee. Good player as he was, against Burton away before he left, he just looked heavy and horrifically immobile. I believe he’s started every game this season. It’s interesting how he didn’t fit then but does now. Obviously as you say the set ups are different etc. Personally I thought Martin would be the first to be culled as soon as Pearson went there. Gee SCREAMER !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Unlucky Alf said: Well yes, It took MM long enough to realise he wasn't playong the "Derby way" ? Is that me in my younger days? Ram-Alf and Mucker1884 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 2 hours ago, sage said: I give you Nigel Pearson We will never know on that one, what went on and how things would have turned out had he stayed on. What does Mr Plop think of him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB SPORTS Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, Ramarena said: I believe he’s started every game this season. It’s interesting how he didn’t fit then but does now. Obviously as you say the set ups are different etc. Personally I thought Martin would be the first to be culled as soon as Pearson went there. He has, and only missed 52 mins after being subbed as well, so has a 96%+ playing rate. Ramarena 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 1 hour ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Where were we in the league when Clement was fired? Fair question. Where are we in the league now? Is that Wayne Rooney's fault? I don't think so. Clement had the pick of our best players, but didn't make the most of them. Rooney has just free agents and kids to work with. NottsRam77, I know nuffin and alram 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alram Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Free agents is kind, rooney didn't really have a choice which players we signed, our pool of players we could get was that small. We were shopping in a lower league one market. NottsRam77 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Key Club King Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 Martin's record since 2016 is pretty poor. 27 goals in 160 games prior to this season. I appreciate injuries have held him back and he is still a good player but Bristol City gave him a 3 year deal and even Mel wasn't daft enough to give a 32 year old a three year deal (except maybe Curtis Davies and Dave Nugent!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 9 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: Fair question. Where are we in the league now? Is that Wayne Rooney's fault? I don't think so. Clement had the pick of our best players, but didn't make the most of them. Rooney has just free agents and kids to work with. Clement lost Hughes and Bryson first game and Thorne was still injured from previous seasons acl but yes, he had the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Unlucky Alf said: There's not many players i'd put in the same bracket as Awfull Anya...Mick Coop being one, We tried and tried to unload Anya, But he wouldn't have it...stayed on the vast wage he was getting, I must say either his Agent was at the top of his game...or our contract team were shocking. Having listened to the george thorne interview i can assure u it was very much our contracts team that ducked up.. and not just anya Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 49 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Clement lost Hughes and Bryson first game and Thorne was still injured from previous seasons acl but yes, he had the rest. Johnson, Butterfield and Hendrick and I thought Thorne was fit again by 2015-16 so midfield pretty strong even when Hughes and Bryso got injured. Weimann, Martin, Bent and Ince up front, Jonny Russell too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 2 hours ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Where were we in the league when Clement was fired? 5th. Which makes his dismissal by Morris more bizarre even by his standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 1 hour ago, alram said: Free agents is kind, rooney didn't really have a choice which players we signed, our pool of players we could get was that small. We were shopping in a lower league one market. Yes I think Lee Gregory, George Edmonson , Sone Aluko all ended up at League One teams as we couldn't afford them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 29 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: 5th. Which makes his dismissal by Morris more bizarre even by his standards. Weren't there rumoured to be 'non-footballing' issues that led to his dismissal? Reggie Greenwood, I know nuffin and Ram-Alf 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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