Day Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Can't believe they are still pushing this, but here we are. I would start both Red Bulls from the back of the grid on the last worn tyres from Silverstone, throw in a warning about their future conduct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 hours ago, David said: Can't believe they are still pushing this, but here we are. I would start both Red Bulls from the back of the grid on the last worn tyres from Silverstone, throw in a warning about their future conduct. I very much doubt the penalty will change. It was a legitimate attempt, Hamilton just wasn't able to hold his line tight enough. So it's a mistake on Hamilton's part but Red bull are not going to get anywhere with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: I very much doubt the penalty will change. It was a legitimate attempt, Hamilton just wasn't able to hold his line tight enough. So it's a mistake on Hamilton's part but Red bull are not going to get anywhere with this. I think there will be some warning to Hamilton about future races and keeping the integrity of the sport, just something to give Red Bull to comfort themselves with. Hungary is going to be spicy, that's for sure. Odds on Perez sending Hamilton into the barriers?....Team orders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksRam Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 11 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: I very much doubt the penalty will change. It was a legitimate attempt, Hamilton just wasn't able to hold his line tight enough. So it's a mistake on Hamilton's part but Red bull are not going to get anywhere with this. Agree - Hamilton is not that type of racer. Smacks of sour grapes on Red Bull's part. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted July 29, 2021 Author Share Posted July 29, 2021 Hope the review decides that Max was guilty of turning in and give him a 10 place grid penalty - Red Bull have been emabrassing in their attitude to what should have clearly been deemed a racing incident.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, Gaspode said: Hope the review decides that Max was guilty of turning in and give him a 10 place grid penalty - Red Bull have been emabrassing in their attitude to what should have clearly been deemed a racing incident.... It won't. Verstappen didn't do anything wrong, he left plenty on the inside for a car to be, Lewis just wasn't able to put his car there. Red Bull are embarrassing themselves though. BucksRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) Bit of an explainer here on it. Basically the decision wasn't looked at because Red Bull's evidence was not newly discovered evidence, it was newly created data after the fact - the ran Alex Albon round in the old Red bull car to try to recreate the line used by Hamilton (and presumably prove he couldn't have made the corner). Seemingly obviously, sending a different driver round in a different car on a different day is a sketchy at best premise to try to prove Hamilton's move was deserving of a harsher penalty. And again, I get Red Bull are raging that the penalty wasn't enough because Hamilton still won, but, that's no kind f basis to be deciding penalties. It'd be like the EFL deciding (oh wait..I'd better stop) However, it didn't get that far. It's not like they uncovered a pre race text from Hamilton to Bottas that said "if i don't get past him by Copse I'm just going to take him out lolz" it's not even been reopened. Edited July 29, 2021 by RadioactiveWaste Day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Red Bull should be drunk in moderation. Including the team. They need to chill a bit RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/fia-rejects-red-bulls-review-of-hamiltons-british-gp-penalty/6638595/ I am curious what allegations were in the Red Bull petition. Combined with the Merc statemnt it seems there was probably a fair bit of throwing shade going on. The Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 Team welcomes the decision of the stewards to reject Red Bull Racing’s right of review, In addition to bringing this incident to a close, we hope that this decision will mark the end of a concerted attempt by the senior management of Red Bull Racing to tarnish the good name and sporting integrity of Lewis Hamilton, including in the documents submitted for their unsuccessful right of review. “We now look forward to going racing this weekend and to continuing our hard-fought competition for the 2021 FIA Formula One World Championship.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 The Hungary Grand Prix is no unmissable. If you have watched Drive to Survive on Netflix you will see the animosity between the teams and some drivers, it’s great, to see more of that in the public eye as it happens will only generate more interest. Not saying we need to see Hamilton and Max try and take each other out each week, but that added spice to the rivalry is great. Bit like when Clough sticks the knee in on Billy Davies. RadioactiveWaste and ziggyram59 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyram59 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Can't wait to see this weekend's Hungarian Grand Prix, think the track will suit the Red Bull's unfortunately but let's hope Lewis can get a good result fingers crossed. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Hamilton, Bottas, Verstappen, Perez, Gasley, Norris, Leclerc, Ocon, Alonso, Vettel top 10. So, it's pretty much roles reveresed as Max in a car that's probably not quite as fast as the Merc this weekend will be looking to get a pass done on lap 1. Hopefully the top three all have a nice chat by a barrier so ma bhoy Checo gets to trundle round for his 3rd win in F1. I've never really liked this track, but Spa to look forward to next. ziggyram59 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Sad news from Brands Hatch. A marshall lost his life. rynny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyram59 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 14 hours ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Hamilton, Bottas, Verstappen, Perez, Gasley, Norris, Leclerc, Ocon, Alonso, Vettel top 10. So, it's pretty much roles reveresed as Max in a car that's probably not quite as fast as the Merc this weekend will be looking to get a pass done on lap 1. Hopefully the top three all have a nice chat by a barrier so ma bhoy Checo gets to trundle round for his 3rd win in F1. I've never really liked this track, but Spa to look forward to next. Love watching Checo Perez but hate seeing him in a Red Bull car anyone in that team I won't support. You are right about Spa a fantastic track one of my favourites on the calendar. Let's hope Mercedes do a 1/2 today. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Red Bull will be bursting blood vessels now ? Rev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Fantastic work Valteri, what a start! Allows me to watch the second half undisturbed too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Wtf was Lance Stroll thinking, chaos ahead and he sticks it into a non existent gap up the inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Why let Hamilton start by himself when the whole grid pits??? Bizarre. And then to box him after 1 lap. ? Rev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 Wait….maybe it’s so he’s nearer Max to wipe him out again and then try and get into the points ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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