BIllyD Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 1 hour ago, MuespachRam said: You have to admit, he makes a good point does @BIllyD seems to be a wise wise one. Never it be said that the British don't love a loser, hiding behind net spend now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 21 minutes ago, BIllyD said: Net spend ? The academy generates millions every year for him, countino over 100m, he has spent 400m, give me that much and I reckon I could put a team together from scratch that challenges for the PL. It's the players he has in his squad now...Mane 30m, Salah 45m, Van Dyke, Keira, Alison just around 200m for the three. Of course other teams will have a bigger spend, if Derby went up next season and wanted to challenge for the title, it would cost them several hundred million because of their starting point. Ok 5 seasons, 8,4,4,2 and we shall give him a title just to make the numbers up and then back to 13 points behind the current leaders. So in 6 seasons, one win, that's it. Let's compare that to say Pep, 2 already, another one almost in the bag. I suppose it depends how long liverpool are prepared to wait for another title, one in 6 may be ok for them I suppose ?♂️ Okay, so Klopp's spent over £400m. Well Guardiola's spent the best part of £1b then. Well done to Man City for winning 2 titles compared to Klopp's 1. They even reached the Champions League semi-final once as well. Only 1 English club has won the Champions League since 2012 as well, but let's ignore that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 Well, those backing Bristol to sack their guy have won the bet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIllyD Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Okay, so Klopp's spent over £400m. Well Guardiola's spent the best part of £1b then. Well done to Man City for winning 2 titles compared to Klopp's 1. They even reached the Champions League semi-final once as well. Only 1 English club has won the Champions League since 2012 as well, but let's ignore that. Pep has won it twice in one less season and will have another on the notch this year as well. This wasn't a comparison anyway between Pep and him, I was just pointing out another manager who has finished no lower than 3rd, 2 titles under their belt and another on the way. I'll give you he doesn't seem to be a bad cup manager, reminds me a bit of Harry in that respect. So just to be clear though, you think one title win in 6 seasons makes him a great manager ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Well, those backing Bristol to sack their guy have won the bet. Well that was quick. Carlos Corberán next for the chopping block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 5 minutes ago, BIllyD said: Pep has won it twice in one less season and will have another on the notch this year as well. This wasn't a comparison anyway between Pep and him, I was just pointing out another manager who has finished no lower than 3rd, 2 titles under their belt and another on the way. I'll give you he doesn't seem to be a bad cup manager, reminds me a bit of Harry in that respect. So just to be clear though, you think one title win in 6 seasons makes him a great manager ? You were using transfer spend as a way to point out how bad he has done. Liverpool spend has been dwarfed by Man City and Man Utd who are pushing for the £1b club. Chelsea not too far behind them. Arsenal and Everton have spent more. They're about on par with Spurs though. Wolves only £20m behind and West Ham £60m behind. 'Good' managers don't have 99 point seasons (would have been better if their season wasn't disrupted by the extended break). He's clearly one of the very best in the world, and debatably the best at the moment. If Van Dijk and Gomez hadn't missed pretty much the entirety of this season they'd be competing for the title again. Their shocking spell over the past month or so has been the consequence of their 3rd choice CB being ruled out for the rest of the season as well. Henderson and Fabinho have been forced to play there, TOGETHER! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 49 minutes ago, David said: Well that was quick. Carlos Corberán next for the chopping block. Holden bought Martin. Corberan bought Holmes. You have a sound selection technique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted February 16, 2021 Author Share Posted February 16, 2021 7 minutes ago, i-Ram said: Holden bought Martin. Corberan bought Holmes. You have a sound selection technique. Look what happened to Burton when they went down the Derby rejects path, it's not the way to success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Git Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 4 hours ago, David said: Look what happened to Burton when they went down the Derby rejects path, it's not the way to success On that note, who was the last good "Derby reject"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIllyD Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 7 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: You were using transfer spend as a way to point out how bad he has done. Liverpool spend has been dwarfed by Man City and Man Utd who are pushing for the £1b club. Chelsea not too far behind them. Arsenal and Everton have spent more. They're about on par with Spurs though. Wolves only £20m behind and West Ham £60m behind. 'Good' managers don't have 99 point seasons (would have been better if their season wasn't disrupted by the extended break). He's clearly one of the very best in the world, and debatably the best at the moment. If Van Dijk and Gomez hadn't missed pretty much the entirety of this season they'd be competing for the title again. Their shocking spell over the past month or so has been the consequence of their 3rd choice CB being ruled out for the rest of the season as well. Henderson and Fabinho have been forced to play there, TOGETHER! So 1 in 7 ? Sorry getting ahead of myself 1 in 6 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColonelBlimp Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 4 hours ago, Grumpy Git said: On that note, who was the last good "Derby reject"? Sounds like a new thread to me, make one up will ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 8 hours ago, David said: Look what happened to Burton when they went down the Derby rejects path, it's not the way to success Their best ever season was with 6 former 'rejects'. They finished above Forest in 16/17 with Brayford, Naylor, Ward, Varney, Bywater and Barker. They've dropped back down to just 2 or 3 former Rams since returning to L1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 5 hours ago, Grumpy Git said: On that note, who was the last good "Derby reject"? Will Hughes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 I didn't realise just how bad Bristol had been this season. The table, excluding the opening 4 games looks like this: They picked up 12 points from the first 4 games. It'll be what keeps them up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bimmerman Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 15 hours ago, Grumpy Git said: On that note, who was the last good "Derby reject"? Johnny Russell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Surely Birmingham have got to be looking at getting rid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 On 16/02/2021 at 22:53, Ghost of Clough said: Well, those backing Bristol to sack their guy have won the bet. Easy this next manager to go lark. Karanka next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIllyD Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 Last century since liverpool lost to Everton at anfield, nearly 100 years since they lost 4 in a row at home, worst title defence for how long...surely they can't keep going with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted February 20, 2021 Share Posted February 20, 2021 13 minutes ago, BIllyD said: Last century since liverpool lost to Everton at anfield, nearly 100 years since they lost 4 in a row at home, worst title defence for how long...surely they can't keep going with him. Think Leeds was the worst in living memory. Maybe Chelsea when Jose sacked second time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIllyD Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Another record for this liverpool team. Tick tock Klipperty klopp ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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