Van der MoodHoover Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 6 hours ago, oldtimeram said: If he gets the boot, as is being predicated, what are the chances of Lampard returning and how would you all feel about that? In this strange World anything is possible? Don't let him know where the chequebook is. His signings have spaffed loads of cash.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 7 hours ago, oldtimeram said: If he gets the boot, as is being predicated, what are the chances of Lampard returning and how would you all feel about that? In this strange World anything is possible? Chances of him returning? - nil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Yeah I'd have Lampard back. And on his first day of pre season nobody except him turn up. The knob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 8 hours ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Over rated manager who failed at Derby and the unsung hero, Jody Morris, probably deserves more of the plaudits. Take away Mason Mount and Tomori, who were pretty much gifted due to his Chelsea links, we were a bang average team. His signings were hardly a success and his selection at Wembley still angers me to this very minute. The only thing that I will be forever grateful for was for giving me perhaps the best 90 minutes of footballing magic against Leeds United...Man U cup game werent bad either I suppose. Absolute lunacy! Takeaway any team’s better players and they will be impacted. Lampard deserves credit not criticism for bringing those players in ffs! Name your favourite Derby manager and I’ll suggest he’d have been average without some players that I’ll also name. in fact, I’ll play along now:- Nigel without Bryson/Hughes Jewell was poo anyway Smith would be bang average without Stimac, Eranio and Asanovic Cox would’ve been bang average without Saunders, Wright and McMinn see? stupid mindset. I expect better rationale from you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Does anyone actually know if Rooney did have an official interview? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 22 minutes ago, rammieib said: Does anyone actually know if Rooney did have an official interview? Yeah. His odds immediately went from 1/25 on to 1/7 though so he must have dropped a titanic bolark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Mostyn6 said: Lampard deserves credit not criticism for bringing those players in ffs! So what credit does he deserve for spaffing the real dosh and saddling us with Waghorn, FloJo and Malone? Perhaps easier to borrow your mates shiny toys than find your own to play with...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: So what credit does he deserve for spaffing the real dosh and saddling us with Waghorn, FloJo and Malone? Perhaps easier to borrow your mates shiny toys than find your own to play with...... Waghorn was surely here before Lampard. Flo was a dud and Malone was/is as good as we have now! Every manager makes bad signings. I’ll challenge you similarly, name your favourite Derby manager. I’ll name some dud signings he made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: Waghorn was surely here before Lampard. Flo was a dud and Malone was/is as good as we have now! Every manager makes bad signings. I’ll challenge you similarly, name your favourite Derby manager. I’ll name some dud signings he made. Waghorn was signed the summer Frank joined so in the same way Cocu gets tagged with signing Bielik, Waggy is Frank's "snip". Dave mackay was my favourite manager. But that wasn't the point I think the op was making. It's not about a manager never making a poor signing.... Its about whether he makes enough decent ones to forge a good side. Once Frank's loans left, did he leave us with a decent side, better than he inherited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 9 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Waghorn was signed the summer Frank joined so in the same way Cocu gets tagged with signing Bielik, Waggy is Frank's "snip". Dave mackay was my favourite manager. But that wasn't the point I think the op was making. It's not about a manager never making a poor signing.... Its about whether he makes enough decent ones to forge a good side. Once Frank's loans left, did he leave us with a decent side, better than he inherited? It’s a moot point though, as it’s making the assumption that had Lampard remained he’d have not replaced those players! It’s not for Lampard to make better signings than Cocu did after he’s left for Chelsea. The fact those players were not replaced adequately falls with Cocu (and those alongside him), not with those departed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 hour ago, 86 Hair Islands said: Yeah. His odds immediately went from 1/25 on to 1/7 though so he must have dropped a titanic bolark. Or just that he wasn't given the job afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 30 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: Waghorn was surely here before Lampard. Flo was a dud and Malone was/is as good as we have now! Every manager makes bad signings. I’ll challenge you similarly, name your favourite Derby manager. I’ll name some dud signings he made. Lampard signed Waghorn. Marriott, Malone, Flo Jo, Evans and Holmes for around £16m. Current resale value £2m He loaned in Mount, Tomori, Wilson, King and Cole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, sage said: Lampard signed Waghorn. Marriott, Malone, Flo Jo, Evans and Holmes for around £16m. Current resale value £2m He loaned in Mount, Tomori, Wilson, King and Cole. Just to nitpick I'm not sure Evans and Holmes came anywhere near to 4m combined as the first four add up to about 12. I completely forgot Andy King was even at Derby... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Brolly Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 11 minutes ago, sage said: Lampard signed Waghorn. Marriott, Malone, Flo Jo, Evans and Holmes for around £16m. Current resale value £2m He loaned in Mount, Tomori, Wilson, King and Cole. I think around 8 million is more like current resale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Mick Brolly said: I think around 8 million is more like current resale. Really? Would you like to break that down for me? and bear in mind who is out of contract at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, Sean said: Just to nitpick I'm not sure Evans and Holmes came anywhere near to 4m combined as the first four add up to about 12. I completely forgot Andy King was even at Derby... What is your breakdown on that figure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 18 minutes ago, sage said: Lampard signed Waghorn. Marriott, Malone, Flo Jo, Evans and Holmes for around £16m. Current resale value £2m He loaned in Mount, Tomori, Wilson, King and Cole. Your resale value is provocatively and mischievously subjective ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Mostyn6 said: Your resale value is provocatively and mischievously subjective ? What is yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 23 minutes ago, sage said: Lampard signed Waghorn. Marriott, Malone, Flo Jo, Evans and Holmes for around £16m. Current resale value £2m He loaned in Mount, Tomori, Wilson, King and Cole. Not forgetting the legend that was Efe Ambrose......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted December 28, 2020 Share Posted December 28, 2020 Just now, sage said: What is yours? Im not sure of contract expiries to be honest, but if each of those players had 2yrs left, and i was managing a rival team, I’d expect to pay the following:- Waghorn £4m, Marriott £2.5m, Malone £1.5m, Flo £1m, Holmes £2m, Evans £1.5m just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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