Tamworthram Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Tyler Durden said: I accept what you posted and don't necessarily agree with it but to tack it onto a reply to a post I made suggests you are using it as a counterargument to something I made in my original post which is wrong if I didn't further that at all in the first instance. In reply to your generalisation the best response is horses for courses - the situation defines what the most appropriate way to deal with the matter is, you can't just say it's inappropriate to use one method at the exclusion of another. When you said they needed a kick up the arse rather than any sort of sports psychology I thought you were advocating such an approach which, as I say, I politely disagreed with. When did I say "at the exclusion of another" other than to disagree with your point? Surely, on a forum, as long as we're polite and respectful of others views we're allowed to disagree? Heck, I've only been back a day and already I'm getting in a fight. It must be me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 57 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: When you said they needed a kick up the arse rather than any sort of sports psychology I thought you were advocating such an approach which, as I say, I politely disagreed with. When did I say "at the exclusion of another" other than to disagree with your point? Surely, on a forum, as long as we're polite and respectful of others views we're allowed to disagree? Heck, I've only been back a day and already I'm getting in a fight. It must be me. Well, I thought he was saying what you thought he was saying if that's any consolation. (And still do, despite the protestations!) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted November 29, 2020 Share Posted November 29, 2020 9 hours ago, Tamworthram said: Ok. I’m back after my rather childish drama queen self exile a couple of months ago. Sorry, Tyler, I think you’re wrong. Are you suggesting that just because someone is good at football (how good they are is of course debatable) they aren’t human like the rest of us and have moments self doubt/lack of confidence? I’m not saying we need to get all warm and cuddly with them and tell them all is good they’re doing fine but, in my opinion, in all walks of life a simple rollicking when you’re performing badly/making mistakes is rarely the answer. It’s a curious thing. Tyler has a point ... but only so far, for some players and some people. Got to remember everyone is an individual. Different things work depending on who you are. I imagine as an elite sportsman you have a certain self belief an inbuilt “kick on, never say die competitive mindset - They won’t all need a specialist. But .. it’s like kids or even staff in a work place, some respond to a kick up the behind, some get crushed by it, some get filled with resentment. There isn’t one answer. You can see the players that spit teeth out and go again and you can see the ones that hesitate in front of goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kevinhectoring Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 On 29/11/2020 at 08:40, EtoileSportiveDeDerby said: Not convinced a sports psychologist could manage this, we need Jesus won't Allah do ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 On 29/11/2020 at 05:45, Oldben said: I looked at derbys staff ... https://www.dcfc.co.uk/teams/staff Wheres the full time sports psychologist. When you look at Premier league clubs, they have sports therapists, example ... https://www.anfield-online.co.uk/squad/backroomstaff.html Once you have the mentality of losing on a weekly basis, you need the team to remotivate itself on a weekly basis for each game. Great point, why don't we have one? We have have physio's to look after the body, why not Psychologists to look after the mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said: won't Allah do ? Any imaginary friend will do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I’m with Tyler, a good kick up the arse says more than a thousand words. If they can’t motivate themselves to play to their highest level with all the facilities the club has provided them with, they need a reality check, not duckin’ analysing. Tossers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dambuster Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 On 29/11/2020 at 05:45, Oldben said: I looked at derbys staff ... https://www.dcfc.co.uk/teams/staff Wheres the full time sports psychologist. When you look at Premier league clubs, they have sports therapists, example ... https://www.anfield-online.co.uk/squad/backroomstaff.html Once you have the mentality of losing on a weekly basis, you need the team to remotivate itself on a weekly basis for each game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 I would take a guess that most people who practise in this area have a practice rather than being on a club's staff and do contract work, perhaps exclusivly but more likely for several clubs, and I would also guess that it's something with a large amount of confidendiality attached to it. "It is they player's decision" is the correct and only answer, so I'm glad that's the one he gave. And in general terms, sports psychology is only really in my mind another form of specialist coach, work on getting and keeping the player's and staff's "heads right" has always been a part of things - I don't think it was his title but from the stories about Gordon Guthrie, that appears to be one of the many wonderful things he was to many people at the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 31 minutes ago, EtoileSportiveDeDerby said: Any imaginary friend will do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marriot Ram99 Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Possibly a sports psychologist is needed for the attackers more than anything else, we lack compusure in front of goal and a physchologist would help players with not much of it and the younger players with more room to improve. In front of goal it's about keeping calm and letting your instincts do the work, players who over think it especially with no confidence end up bottling constant simple opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Bit crazy this, but stick with me, but I wonder if Steve McClaren could do some therapy sessions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rab a dab doo Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 What sort of therapy ???????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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