Alph Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Which players are bang average compared to the rest of the league. Marshall, Clarke, Ter Wierik, Bielik, Rooney, Bird, Holmes, Sibely, Marriott, Waghorn? Look at the teams in the Play Offs last season. Look at Preston last season or Millwall or Swansea or Cardiff or Forest. Would they take many of our players because I think they would. I reckon they'd all take a couple each. I think any team would have Rooney considering the tears when we signed him. Again, Cocu isn't in a dream situation like Clement was but it's not exactly Nigel Clough's wage budget either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 same old Derby fans , go through a sticky patch , missing some of your experienced players and its question the manager time , give Cocu the season , get his new players in and injured players back and im sure we will see a different Rams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Premier ram said: same old Derby fans , go through a sticky patch , missing some of your experienced players and its question the manager time , give Cocu the season , get his new players in and injured players back and im sure we will see a different Rams Based on what? That is what is being questioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: Based on what? That is what is being questioned. Based on how we played from Jan until they ran out of steam and how Cocu performed at PSV is probably the answer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: Based on what? That is what is being questioned. They will be the same. It's a case of being good enough at it to make it work. Will they get to that point quickly enough or at all is a fair question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Just now, Reggie Greenwood said: Based on how we played from Jan Did we play that well, I'm sad to say I only really remember the Blackburn match, lol. I do remember lots of sideways possession-based drudgery too mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 The players are lucky no fans are present. Imagine the boos.........seriously! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Did we play that well, I'm sad to say I only really remember the Blackburn match, lol. I do remember lots of sideways possession-based drudgery too mind. Sheff Wed away Swansea away , Stoke at home spring to mind without much thought Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said: Based on how we played from Jan until they ran out of steam and how Cocu performed at PSV is probably the answer “Ran out of steam” or “played teams that were simply a lot better than us” ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Just now, MuespachRam said: “Ran out of steam” or “played teams that were simply a lot better than us” ? Could be both , plus suspensions. However no dispute that we were top of the form league from Jan until near the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said: Sheff Wed away Swansea away , Stoke at home spring to mind without much thought So is it just down to missing players then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Based on what? That is what is being questioned. the fact that its mostly attacking players that are injured and attacking players that we are hoping to sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Premier ram said: the fact that its mostly attacking players that are injured and attacking players that we are hoping to sign Well I guess we'll have to keep our fingers crossed then as we've been looking since January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: So is it just down to missing players then? To be honest , yes i think it is , Rooney , Holmes , Lawrence, Waggy and Bielik would make a massive difference to a large percentage of Champ teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Well I guess we'll have to keep our fingers crossed then as we've been looking since January. We have till October to hopefully get the right players in , patience is in very short supply with some fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AutoWindscreens Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 hour ago, RadioactiveWaste said: I believe in what he's trying to do, but I do think he needs to accept a championship version of his vision (quicker, more mistakes, less perfect, more pragmatic). I agree ... And so does Cocu! "...making a mistake is a part of football so if you are afraid to make a bad pass or a bad decision then you should not come out to play a game. In midfield, for example, we hesitated instead of playing a high-tempo game..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, AutoWindscreens said: I agree ... And so does Cocu! "...making a mistake is a part of football so if you are afraid to make a bad pass or a bad decision then you should not come out to play a game. In midfield, for example, we hesitated instead of playing a high-tempo game..." Yes but he's the manager, he could see that at half-time - where was the change? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, Premier ram said: We have till October to hopefully get the right players in , patience is in very short supply with some fans It's not necessarily patience, I'm just not sure I believe. We'll see as you say when the new/old attackers are available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted September 14, 2020 Author Share Posted September 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Yes but he's the manager, he could see that at half-time - where was the change? Who would you have brought on? Davies or Evans? Maybe get them to run at the Reading defence aswell, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 minute ago, IslandExile said: Who would you have brought on? Davies or Evans? Maybe get them to run at the Reading defence as well, eh? Why not Evans? But the bench looked limited to say the least. Still wouldn't you rather see a young player attempt something than stick with nothing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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