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2 hours ago, GboroRam said:

Can you show me on the doll where the EU hurt you?

Taking us to court, demanding millions of taxpayers money from us every year for them to giveaway?
 

The fact any remainer does not to comment on the Merkel wanting greater integration of the E.U. is exactly the response I expected so I am not disappointed all very predictable.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-free-movement-brexit-uk-european-court-boris-johnson-a9515326.html%3famp

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4 hours ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

My early memories of TV evening news was the Cod War...in fact, weren't there two?

You wouldn't dare try us again @ramit.....we've developed our weapons response and now have oversized portions of chips to retaliate with.......?

There were 10 actually, but 2 big ones involving more nations also.

The Icelandic captain, equivalent of an admiral was a friend of my mother, as she had been the private secretary for the chief of our coast guard.  He came to stay with us in our home in California for a few weeks for rest and recuperation after the British frigate Falmouth rammed our coast guard flagship Týr, he captained and almost capsized her.  She was nicknamed Bigmouth here after the incident, because of the gaping hole in her bow after the ramming.  i was 15, but the admiral offered me a position of mess-boy onboard Týr, even if rules stipulated that i had to be 16 to be accepted.  My mother would have none of it though and it didn't come to be, although i did sign up later for duties on Þór, Ægir and Óðinn.

Nah, it's the other way around, mate.  We still have our secret weapon, threatening the Americans to leave NATO and invite the Russians in instead, unless they told you Brits to back off.  Kissinger whined like a bitch about it in his memoirs, stating the US had never been so roughly treated by such a small country in it's history.  We don't half go for the cajones when we have to.

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23 minutes ago, cstand said:

Taking us to court, demanding millions of taxpayers money from us every year for them to giveaway?
 

The fact any remainer does not to comment on the Merkel wanting greater integration of the E.U. is exactly the response I expected so I am not disappointed all very predictable.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-free-movement-brexit-uk-european-court-boris-johnson-a9515326.html%3famp

When you described the EU as Socialist, you lost any credibility in your post ??

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30 minutes ago, cstand said:

Taking us to court, demanding millions of taxpayers money from us every year for them to giveaway?
 

The fact any remainer does not to comment on the Merkel wanting greater integration of the E.U. is exactly the response I expected so I am not disappointed all very predictable.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-free-movement-brexit-uk-european-court-boris-johnson-a9515326.html%3famp

I would gladly take greater integration, if the only alternative is the lonely isolationism you seemingly crave.

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2 hours ago, Tamworthram said:

I didn't realise you loved us so much.

To be fair, from what I know, the invasion of Iceland, whilst it may have seemed harsh, was probably a sensible (maybe even essential) act to prevent Germany gaining control and devastating the North Atlantic convoys even more than they were already. 

I wonder how they came up with name (Fork) for the operation?

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i have an affinity for Rams

It was probably an essential act, the Germans were not very likely to respect our neutrality either and given how it turned out, probably for the best.  Iceland had lost a third of it's export income for bacalao to Spain because of the civil war there, so there was considerable poverty here at the time.  Often half sarcastically referred to as the blessed war, WW2 was a major economic boost for us.  We even were part of the Marshall Plan somehow after the war ended.

My father was 6 years old and went down to the harbor with thousands of others to gape at the foreign sea sick soldiers flooding ashore.  He came from a strict socialist home and was told not to accept any gifts from the soldiers, because we were not for sale for chocolate, but of course he and his mates disobeyed at every opportunity.  His friend had a trick that the soldiers liked, lowering a long earthworm down his throat and then pulling it back up.  His jealous friend, i think it was father slapped his back once when he did that and the boy swallowed the worm, to raucous laughter and showers of chocolate from the delighted soldiers.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/iceland-and-the-story-of-a-very-british-invasion

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14 minutes ago, ramit said:

There were 10 actually, but 2 big ones involving more nations also.

The Icelandic captain, equivalent of an admiral was a friend of my mother, as she had been the private secretary for the chief of our coast guard.  He came to stay with us in our home in California for a few weeks for rest and recuperation after the British frigate Falmouth rammed our coast guard flagship Týr, he captained and almost capsized her.  She was nicknamed Bigmouth here after the incident, because of the gaping hole in her bow after the ramming.  i was 15, but the admiral offered me a position of mess-boy onboard Týr, even if rules stipulated that i had to be 16 to be accepted.  My mother would have none of it though and it didn't come to be, although i did sign up later for duties on Þór, Ægir and Óðinn.

Nah, it's the other way around, mate.  We still have our secret weapon, threatening the Americans to leave NATO and invite the Russians in instead, unless they told you Brits to back off.  Kissinger whined like a bitch about it in his memoirs, stating the US had never been so roughly treated by such a small country in it's history.  We don't half go for the cajones when we have to.

I'm sorry to hear your mother was nicknamed Bigmouth, especially as a big hole after a ramming must have been traumatic.

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1 hour ago, bigbadbob said:

As long as you know your place fella. Rule Britannia !

In case you missed the sarcasm, this is not how the general population feels.  We are still irate after the 2008 incidents.

Our government is in your pocket though, so there's that, for now

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43 minutes ago, cstand said:

Taking us to court, demanding millions of taxpayers money from us every year for them to giveaway?
 

The fact any remainer does not to comment on the Merkel wanting greater integration of the E.U. is exactly the response I expected so I am not disappointed all very predictable.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-free-movement-brexit-uk-european-court-boris-johnson-a9515326.html%3famp

At the end of the day if EU citizens are having trouble with freedom of movement why don't they just climb in a boat and come across with the illegal immigrants that the EU export to us on a daily basis?

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3 minutes ago, reverendo de duivel said:

I'm sorry to hear your mother was nicknamed Bigmouth, especially as a big hole after a ramming must have been traumatic.

i know our cultures are different, so a little piece of advice, if you want to keep things friendly, never make fun of an Icelander's mother.

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13 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

Depends how they are elected and how they obtain their powers.

 

It always amused me that one of the messages Nigel Farage put out there was that the EU was an unelected entity. However, he was voted in as MEP several times but could never be elected to the British parliament once. Sweet irony dont you think ?

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1 minute ago, EtoileSportiveDeDerby said:

It always amused me that one of the messages Nigel Farage put out there was that the EU was an unelected entity. However, he was voted in as MEP several times but could never be elected to the British parliament once. Sweet irony dont you think ?

Not really no, not sure what is ironic about it?

He was elected by the people he was to represent.

There are plenty of people in the EU holding very powerful positions without being elected by the people.

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14 minutes ago, ramit said:

i know our cultures are different, so a little piece of advice, if you want to keep things friendly, never make fun of an Icelander's mother.

Fair point.

Although I was making a joke from the way your post read, rather than your mother personally.

Don't send her round to batter me!

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2 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

Not really no, not sure what is ironic about it?

to be elected for something you despise several times but cant get elected for something you really want once would be a good definition of irony in my book

He was elected by the people he was to represent.

thats the idea with elections

There are plenty of people in the EU holding very powerful positions without being elected by the people.

Did you vote for cunning Dom or the queen ?

 

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9 minutes ago, reverendo de duivel said:

Fair point.

Although I was making a joke from the way your post read, rather than your mother personally.

Don't send her round to batter me!

Understood.  It was a bit clumsily written.

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43 minutes ago, ramit said:

In case you missed the sarcasm, this is not how the general population feels.  We are still irate after the 2008 incidents.

Our government is in your pocket though, so there's that, for now

I don't think it's me who's missed the sarcasm. Coyr !

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17 minutes ago, EtoileSportiveDeDerby said:

 

Ok, understand the irony angle now.

So if you are aware of why elections are held, do you not think the citizens should have a bit more say in deciding the people that hold the positions of power in the EU?

Never voted for the Queen and would probably vote to scrap the monarchy.

Didnt vote for Dominic Cummings, I've never know any Government adviser that has been elected, but I did vote for his boss who I was aware would use advisers.

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